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Law Would Require Cleaning Ice, Snow From Cars
The Associated Press ^ | September 15, 2005 | AP

Posted on 09/15/2005 8:35:32 PM PDT by Westlander

BOSTON -- It's cold, it's snowing, and there's ice and snow on the car. So you hop in and go without clearing off all the winter precipitation.

That might soon be against the law in Massachusetts.

The state Legislature is considering a bill that would mean fines of up to $500 and a six-month stay in jail.

The bill is designed to reduce the danger from chunks of snow and ice flying off car roofs or hoods.

If it passes, Massachusetts could become the first state to require snow- and ice-free cars.


TOPICS: Government; Political Humor/Cartoons; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: ice; liberals; massachusetts; nannystate; snow
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To: paul51

Unfortunately, they could not be held responsible for anything if there is no law against it.

That is why legislation was drafted. It holds the person who endangers another responsible for their actions.


81 posted on 09/15/2005 10:45:33 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use those bootstraps, cowboy)
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To: Cobra64

No back then the laws were more reasonable. They legislated style of dress, men could shoot their wives for adultery, shopkeepers couldn't operate on Sundays.....

You'r right.


82 posted on 09/15/2005 10:59:19 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use those bootstraps, cowboy)
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To: Alberta's Child

how does one get a 20 foot ladder into the cab of a 18 wheeler to be able to climb up and clean the snow off the top of the trailer? How about not following so close to the person in front of you.


83 posted on 09/15/2005 11:01:07 PM PDT by bikerman
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To: bikerman

How do the majority of them manage?


84 posted on 09/15/2005 11:06:31 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use those bootstraps, cowboy)
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To: Time4Atlas2Shrug

'The paperboy has no right to my property and to demand safety measures through legislation so he can use my property.'

You gave up that right when you signed up to receive the paper. Same goes for the pizza guy when he falls on your property, the postal carrier who slips on your grass....


85 posted on 09/15/2005 11:12:26 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: bikerman

I forgot...

Here's a little quiz. How far behind a vehicle must one travel by law? Now tack some onto that for safe measure.

Okay, now how far do you think an ice sheet from an 18-wheeler would travel through the air? Also, did you know that the vehicle to the rear is traveling a certain distance in one direction while the ice/snow is traveling at a similar velocity in the other direction?

Do you now realize that the issue of safety lies more with the person that should be clearing their vehicle than with the person that is struck by the ice and snow?


86 posted on 09/15/2005 11:13:19 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use those bootstraps, cowboy)
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To: Westlander

Actually, you are wrong yet again.

I give up no such right under the law. If you can find one please provide a link.

A contractual agreement allows one to sue another, but no such right to my property has been relinquished. The government isn't enforcing anything in such a case. You are confusing civil law and statutory law. I also have a legal right to breach a contract, but I must pay a predetermined or a court-ordered remedy.

Again, my taxes are confiscated to pay for roads and, therefore, I have a right to use them. This is referred to as public property. There are many laws that govern the use of the roads because for them to be used so everyone can be equally safe, those rules provide such safety measures. This is why stop signs and yellow lines exist.

Are you opposed to drunk driving. If so, why? If not, consider why it isn't accepted.


87 posted on 09/15/2005 11:26:16 PM PDT by Time4Atlas2Shrug (Use those bootstraps, cowboy)
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To: Alberta's Child
Get a tank. Or better yet, don't drive and stay off the roads, problem solved.



88 posted on 09/15/2005 11:45:30 PM PDT by Cacique (quos Deus vult perdere, prius dementat ( Islamia Delenda Est ))
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To: Time4Atlas2Shrug

You must not reside in Michigan. (all red except for Detroit and Ann Arbor--which sadly carry the state)

Are you aware Michigan has twice the weight limit on trucks in comparison to any other state? And they do travel on Fed financed interstates. So when you do $1,500 worth of damage to your supension (we call them chuckholes), who is responsible-city-county-state-fed? Is this civil or statutory?


89 posted on 09/15/2005 11:50:02 PM PDT by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: Westlander
This from the land of the "Big Dig," a hole in the ground where money is thrown!

Mark

90 posted on 09/16/2005 12:05:37 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: kms61

I also love the a-hole who clears a tiny "porthole" on his windshield, and leaves his side and rear windows covered in snow. Then they drive by telepathy.


91 posted on 09/16/2005 12:20:39 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: Kozak

I see that every winter here in Michigan ... I can't for the life of me understand what those people are thinking.


92 posted on 09/16/2005 12:31:07 AM PDT by Polonius (It's called logic, it'll help you.)
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To: Westlander
"Liberal Lunacy."

But conservatives are the "fascists".

93 posted on 09/16/2005 12:32:48 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: Westlander

In Mass. soon it will be illegal to eat the burned and blistered skin from the roof of your mouth after taking a bite of too hot pizza.


94 posted on 09/16/2005 12:38:15 AM PDT by Lockbar (March toward the sound of the guns.)
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To: Doctor Raoul

Bananas?


95 posted on 09/16/2005 12:40:07 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod ( I'm going to open Cobra Kai dojos all over this valley!)
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To: Westlander

In most states there already is a law = WRECKLESS DRIVING! Enforce the existing laws!


96 posted on 09/16/2005 1:56:10 AM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: Alberta's Child

Supreme Court may.


97 posted on 09/16/2005 1:59:41 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: japaneseghost
It's already the law in VA.

Yeah but if you wait an hour the snow is already gone.

98 posted on 09/16/2005 2:03:23 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (John 6: 51-58)
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To: Westlander
If it passes, Massachusetts could become the first state

Well some folks seem to disagree, but in any event I've never been ice struck or even close to it. And the outrage from the little old lady crowd is going to doom this. Why don't the nannies at least have the grace to go at this like they did at seat belts -- first require rooftop de-icers or nonstick teflon coated tops to be furnished on new cars, then at some future time require them to be used. This stuff has got to be waaaaaaaaaaay down on the list of causes of highway carnage.

99 posted on 09/16/2005 2:09:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: Polonius

Yeah I live near the Frozen Tundra so no stranger to ice and snow.


100 posted on 09/16/2005 3:11:52 AM PDT by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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