Live Thread: Bush Speech About New Orleans (9 pm EDT)

www.freerepublic.com | September 15 , 2005

[Howlin]

9 P.M. EDT.

[BurbankKarl]

put the Dish out in the yard!

[BigSkyFreeper]

throwing money at something broke is more tomfoolery.

Right. Especially if it's private sector money. /sarc

[msnimje]

There was also a slide presentation that I can't get to come up now...

I did see that but it is gone from the site now. It almost makes you think the Media was in collusion with the Democrats???

[pending]

You are right to be pessimistic, lets hope there is much emphasis on personal responsibility,personal motivation,opportunity. There is reason to hope

From the speech:
"And the federal government will undertake a close partnership with the states of Louisiana and Mississippi, the city of New Orleans and other Gulf Coast cities so they can rebuild in a sensible, well planned way. Federal funds will cover the great majority of the costs of repairing public infrastructure in the disaster zone, from roads and bridges to schools and water systems. Our goal is to get the work done quickly. And taxpayers expect this work to be done honestly and wisely, so we will have a team of inspectors general reviewing all expenditures.'

Thats not Great Society/handout/business as usual, we shall see, but i am hopeful
that this will especially get this very divided country working together again.

The cause is worth. 90,000 square miles brother. Just Damn.
You know?
Absolutely got to sign off now.
Later folks.
A Great day.
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The speech
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1485442/posts?

[wardaddy]

Money will rebuild NOLA's destruction.

That is all.

The rest has been tried.

The culture has to be rebuilt....that will take the culture itself doing that and I don't see that happening.

Illegitimacy.

[tcrlaf]

This is going to give HUGE opportunities for poor blacks to pick themselves up and join the middle class....

IF we can get around Louisiana's corrupted DEMS....

And Jesse is still screaming for people to be relocated to TENT CITIES!!!

He'd rather have his people live in squalor, so DEMS can make sure they are there to make there mark on election day....

And they call US racists???

[nopardons]

This is disaster relief and not a "minority giveaway program". That it will help some black people, is because the majority living in NO are....blacks.

Are you actually under the impression that white people won't be helped in LA., Miss., and Al.? When four hurricanes hit Florida last year, one right after the other, were relief funds NLY directed to blacks, or to everyone?

We give foreign aid to countries for a very good reason. Sadly, you appear to not know enough, to be able to grasp the underlying reasons that we do. Pity that.

[hoosiermama]

Too much iron in the hills and too many trees...click on Hoosiermama you'll see....None of us (five families) can get reception here....

[wardaddy]

a transcript would be nice wouldn't it?

i ran to the computer after I first heard that Great Society rhetoric ...my first post on this thread.

i am to bed shortly

i will be glad to be refuted manana....I'm sure by then we will have opuses and condemnation parallel threads going too..lol

[hoosiermama]

I have the original Kodak sharing but don't have the access words....Hopefully the kid will make a little money on it....It would make a great book.

[paulat]

Ever heard of the civil rights laws?

It's right here:

http://usinfo.state.gov/usa/infousa/laws/majorlaw/civilr19.htm

It addresses FEDERAL programs...and FEDERAL employment.

Most efforts in NO, LA and MS will be state-based and can discriminate at will without an initiative like we passed. The federal money will flow through...they won't be federal businesses/projects.

[msnimje]

The Washington Post already has its dismal reaction to the President's speech up.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/15/AR2005091502552.html

[cyborg]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1485442/posts?

parallel threads in the internet parallel universe...I'm off to sleep. Just want folks to think more positive and be happy. It was a good speech.

[nopardons]

But, but, but, buuuuuuuuut...they all, to a person, claim that *gasp* WE are the Kool-Aid drinkers. LOL

[BigSkyFreeper]

Probably 80% or more on Free Republic.com tonight are third or fourth generation descendants of Europeans who came to this country with NOTHING and were GIVEN NOTHING but survived, prospered and taught their children how to think for themselves and believe in themselves...

Strawman

...and help each other in times of crisis.

Bush's speech, teaches "neighbor helping neighbor", something you've had a problem with.

[riri]

haha.And when they, well a very large chunk of them, prove to be unable or unwilling to work--what do you do then?

The only positive outcome I see to this is at least the money will end up back in the coffers of corporations and companies who will actually use the profits to increase capital spending and hire people who will work.

My lord, we have been throwing trillions of dollars at people for decades now and you think this time it's gonna really work--

Must be part of the big strategy. The one where we eke out elections by barely scraping out a win against candidates so bad the races shouldn't even be close.

[Flux Capacitor]

----You think that every one of the evacuees should leave and never come back?----

"Get out of Louisiana" was one of the top-recommended formulas for success in life long before Katrina.

----Who's going to operate the (very important) port? (And where are we going to get such good jazz and shrimp? ;)----

The port is N.O.'s best chance for coming back in any significant way, agreed. And the jazz and shrimp will certainly have a place in the theme park I foresee the remnants of the city becoming.

----I agree that NO should not be rebuilt as it was. It should be rebuilt better than it was.----

GOD knows, it would be hard to do worse, and I've been right behind Bush on every massive proposal from revitalizing NASA and going to Mars to reforming Social Security, but listening to him outline a vision tonight for bringing back New Orleans, I could not help but think "Bless you, Mr. President, but I don't buy it." And I don't. It isn't realistic to expect that we can bring back a bigger, stronger New Orleans by turning it into the biggest public works project in American history.

----And knowing the great American spirit and how we rise to any challenge set before us, I'm betting it will all happen before any of us expect it.----

You may well be right. Right now I'd give almost anything for life to be "normal" again. But what the world learned these past few weeks is that in the worst of times, Louisiana tears itself apart.

I don't believe in this state. I don't believe we'd have witnessed the horror we did had Katrina happened anywhere else in the country, and I don't believe we're going to learn the necessary lessons from it. We're going to re-elect Blanco in '07. We're going to keep electing the same socialists who've failed us time and time again. And I don't believe that making a life here will be in anyone's best interests for a long time to come.

Hate to be so pessimistic, but that's the Louisiana I know. We have long been content in our little third-world rut.

-Dan

[TAdams8591]

No, President Reagan did not see government as a solution to problems in the way President Bush does. This was a criticism I had of President Bush before he became president the first time.

I take great offense to the use of President Bush's term, "compassionate conservatism." As if conservatives weren't compassionate until he came along. We have always been compassionate. We just do not buy the notion that government has the ability to be truly compassionate. And while the Federal Government certainly has a role in this kind of disaster, and I'm certain even President Reagan would also have believed likewise, his plan would have relied less on government.

To my mind, President Bush is the second best president in my lifetime. He is no Ronald Reagan who was TRULY GREAT and NEVER will be. I cannot get as enthused about "W" the way I did with President Reagan, precisely because of his belief in Big Government and Big Government spending. Ronald Reagan is and always will be in my eyes NUMBER ONE. It is doubtful I will live to see another like him. He has been sorely missed.

[MJY1288]

No more than any other night IMHO, I'm a small business owner and when ever I hire a new employee, I explain to that person that we are in the service business (Auto Body Repair) and human nature is to COMPLAIN, when ever people gather and chat about their day, they bitch, moan and whine about something. I tell them that our goal is to make sure WE make sure we are not a part of those conversations. I explain that they should never expect praise when you do what your paid to do. With that said, when you're the Government, you are the DART BOARD for all things "Whining" but believe me... if these Doom and Gloomers here had their home swept away and everything they have worked their entire lives for destroyed by a Hurricane, they would be screaming at Bush for not helping them faster.

In a disaster such as this is why we pay taxes, and if we can get 10% of those who were once on welfare to leave the slums they once lived in and become a productive citizen because they got the chance to actually own something instead of living in the Projects, I'm all for it

[BigSkyFreeper]

Most efforts in NO, LA and MS will be state-based and can discriminate at will without an initiative like we passed.

Your initiative, while all well and good, has been solved by the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964. Your problem is not a federal problem, it's a local political problem, easily solved by voting the sumbitches out.