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The Temple Mount: Getting Serious
Arutz Sheva ^ | 9-15-05 | Arlene Kushner

Posted on 09/15/2005 4:03:51 PM PDT by SJackson

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To: SkyPilot
I recommend "The Ezekiel Option: A Novel" (Hardcover)
by Joel C. Rosenberg for a refreshing glimpse into a possible future. Fiction of course.
21 posted on 09/15/2005 4:48:00 PM PDT by SubMareener (Become a monthly donor! Free FreeRepublic.com from Quarterly FReepathons!)
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To: NerdDad
Why do you pray you're dead before it happens?

I want to see it happen.

22 posted on 09/15/2005 4:49:42 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: SkyPilot

That building needs to moved away from that site and turned into a hog confinement facility.


23 posted on 09/15/2005 4:50:34 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Iowa State 57 -- Iowa 3)
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To: Mr. Mojo

Perhaps an earthquake will develope and mysteriously take down the mosque. I hope and pray it will happen. The site belongs to the Jews.


24 posted on 09/15/2005 4:54:07 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter (E)
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To: SkyPilot

It is my understanding that an almost identical structure was unearthed in Caesarea. It was an octogon, like the dome of the rock, and turned out to be a Byzantine Church. Also the Dome is unlike any other so-called Muslim design. My guess is that is exactly what their Holy Site is, a converted Christian church.

I believe in Revalation that John was told, when measuring for the Temple, to leave the courtyard to the Gentiles meaning don't measure it. There is a teaching that says that a newly constructed Jewish Temple will actually sit next to the Dome. I guess it's possible as the result of a "peace" settlement.


25 posted on 09/15/2005 5:02:25 PM PDT by texsean
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To: SJackson

Past myths are claimed today as historical fact in the mill of Muslim historical Revisionism. For example, in 683 CE Caliph Al-Walid built "Al Aksa" Mosque over a Christian church located on the Temple Mount, the site of the Jewish Temple, built by Solomon - 60 years after the death of Mohammed. Caliph Al-Walid named his Mosque "al Aksa" after a mythical dream that Mohammed supposedly had that: Mohammed flew to a place called ‘al Aksa’ (which means the ‘furthest place’) on his great white horse with wings, the breasts of a woman and the tail of a peacock. The word ‘al Aksa’ (as the ’furthest place’) referred either to Medina or the courtyards of Allah in Paradise. This was the rationale offered by true Arab scholars in attempting to explain the basis of a mythical dream supposedly experienced by Mohammed.

In 685-705 CE the Umayyad Caliph Abd-el Malik built the Dome of the Rock, also on the Temple Mount, Mount Moriah. (It is now called the "Golden Dome" after it was covered with gold by the King of Trans-Jordan.) This Caliph, who lived in Damascus, wished to be viewed as Mohammed’s heir. He attempted to re-direct the Islamic compass away from Mecca towards Jerusalem and his sphere of religious/political power. The political thrust of all this was that Islam continued to ignore Jerusalem as a non-entity and continued to worship toward Mecca. However, the myth was created among the (uneducated) Muslim/Arabs, that, by right of conquest, they owned the Temple of the Jews which existed as Solomon’s Temple of the Jews for thousands of years before Mohammed and Islam. However, the myth took root among the Muslims - as history was pushed aside.

That childish myth has become factual history, as the Arab/Muslims claimed the Jews’ most holy religious site, built thousands of years before Christianity or the beginnings of Islam. But, the West oohs and aahs as the Mullahs babble about their non-existent history, harking back to the Philistines (a warlike tribe of Phoenicians who came to the sea coast of Eretz Yisrael) and other tribes long gone.

‘Al Aksa’ Mosque was not considered a true holy site of Islam until Saladin, the Kurdish warrior in the 12th Century needed an excuse to attack the Christian Crusaders who had taken Jerusalem. Saladin then claimed Mohammed’s dream of ‘Al Aksa’ was the Mosque built on top of the Jewish Temple and, therefore, holy to Islam. But, their claims are accepted today as if they were not a backward, uncivilized culture but, an advanced society of great thinkers and, therefore, worthy of being taken seriously. The media has been provided numerous times with the scholarly history of the Jewish Temple but, they prefer the ‘mythical’ version created by the Muslim/Arabs.


26 posted on 09/15/2005 5:08:47 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: SJackson
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27 posted on 09/15/2005 5:09:33 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: Fred Nerks

It's interesting how their prophet has a halo of flames...


28 posted on 09/15/2005 5:23:28 PM PDT by el capitalista
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To: SJackson
"a provocative act that could stir up confrontation and evoke outrage of Muslims around the world."

What we non-Moslems call Sunrise.

29 posted on 09/15/2005 5:25:20 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Islam is to Peace as Rape is to Love)
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To: el capitalista

MOSLEM CLAIM TO JERUSALEM RESTS ON WOBBLY VERSE


From Arutz-7 Thursday, Aug. 28, 2003 / Rosh Chodesh Elul 5763

http://ateret.org.il/new/news.php?id=317



A commentator in the official Egyptian government weekly, of all places,
writes this week that the entire Moslem claim on Jerusalem and El-Aksa is based on a mistaken reading of one chapter of the Quran. Ahmed Mahmad Oufa wrote that the verse that mentions a night journey by Muhammed to a mosque has nothing to do with Jerusalem, as is generally claimed, but with a mosque near the holy Moslem city of Medina.

Prof. Moshe Sharon, Middle Eastern expert in the Hebrew University, expressed
great surprise at the fact that such an article would be published in Arabic and in an Arabic-speaking country. Speaking with Arutz-7 today, he said, "All in all, this is not a new claim. We must remember that Jerusalem is not mentioned at all in the Quran [though it is mentioned hundreds of time in the Bible - ed. note]. The verse in question is in Sura [chapter] 17, which states that Muhammad was brought at night from one mosque to a "more distant" - aktsa, in Arabic - mosque. The first Moslem commentators did not explain this as referring to Jerusalem at all, of course, but rather as a miraculous night journey or night vision or some such.

In the beginning of the 8th century, however, they began associating this with Jerusalem, because they had a need to start giving sanctity to Jerusalem, and so they started connecting this verse with Jerusalem... Originally, however, the Moslems recognized the area of the Dome of the Rock as holy because of the Jewish Temple of King Solomon."

This last point may be borne out, Nissan Ratzlav-Katz notes, by the fact that
the modern Arabic name for Jerusalem, Al-Quds, is adapted from the original
Arabic name for the Temple Mount: Bayt al-Maqdis - or Beit HaMikdash [Hebrew
for Holy Temple].

It should further be noted that the Al Aksa mosque was built on the Temple
Mount 621 years after Mohammed's death.



30 posted on 09/15/2005 5:40:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Understand islam understand evil - read THE LIFE OF MUHAMMAD free pdf see link My Page)
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To: texsean; SubMareener; HereInTheHeartland
Many thanks for your answers.

I don't know what God will do, but I have total confidence He has a plan for it all.

Given the history of the Temple ground--the land there---it is clear, very clear, that God has assigned significance to it.

He will take care of it. But the world should better prepare itself--it may not be pretty.

31 posted on 09/15/2005 5:46:01 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SJackson
It is time we maintained our legitimate presence on the Mount, and our right in principle to be there.

Amen

32 posted on 09/15/2005 5:48:53 PM PDT by apackof2 (Never underestimate the power of a fuzzy friend!)
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To: Mr. Mojo

"Why do you pray you're dead before it happens?"

I have a couple reason actually.

1. I believe the destruction of that abomination will either be a cause, or result, of an apocalyptic war. That war will not be confined to the Middle East. I'm getting to old to participate in that war. I'm having a hard enough time sitting on the sideline in this war.

2. It's been long time since I studied Revelations and I welcome correction here. If I recall correctly, the Temple will not rebuilt until after the believers are called Home. I know that I want to be dead at the Second Coming because the Bible says the dead will be called up first to meet Him in the sky. That's one line I want to be at or near the front of. No pushing, no cutting in line please.


33 posted on 09/15/2005 5:49:55 PM PDT by NerdDad (I do as the voices in my wife's head tell me.)
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To: SJackson
moslems are like little irrational children on a temper tantrum ... with murder in their shriveled hearts ... truly the bad seed

the proof of their infantile view of life is the threat of death to anyone who contemplates a scholarly inquiry into any aspect of their religion ... the Koran, Mohammed, the significance of Jerusalem ...

that is the most significant aspect about both the factual truth and the psychology of islam ... death is the only answer islam has, meaning moslems are radically uncertain about what they purport to believe

34 posted on 09/15/2005 6:04:33 PM PDT by Urbane_Guerilla
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To: Straight Vermonter

Totally disgusting picture. It generates a certain level of hate in me that I should not be experiencing as a Christian.


35 posted on 09/15/2005 6:08:04 PM PDT by johniegrad
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To: SJackson

But of course it is all right for them to destroy the Jewish and Christian holy places right? I detest these people, I really do.


36 posted on 09/15/2005 6:09:38 PM PDT by ladyinred (It is all my fault okay?)
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To: SJackson

Why did God not allow Abraham to kill Ishmael?

Why did God allow the Snake into the Garden?

I know I know ... it's all OUR fault.


37 posted on 09/15/2005 6:14:44 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: arjay

Are you muslim?


38 posted on 09/15/2005 6:15:32 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: SJackson
This BS could go on forever. Enough, already! Take possession of the mount, kick the Muslims off, level the Mosque, and be done with it.

When the total of the concessions you are willing to make are not going to make the other side happy, there's no point in making ANY concessions

39 posted on 09/15/2005 6:16:07 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Never try to teach a pig to sing -- it wastes your time and it annoys the pig)
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To: NerdDad

No bulldozers required. The Great Rift Valley (which created the Red Sea), the reason The Dead Sea exists, can wipe clean Mout Moriah at a moments notice. Standing by for The LORD to initiate the rebuilding of the Temple.


40 posted on 09/15/2005 6:21:14 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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