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The Temple Mount: Getting Serious
Arutz Sheva ^ | 9-15-05 | Arlene Kushner

Posted on 09/15/2005 4:03:51 PM PDT by SJackson

News from Palestinian sources protest Jews taking up residence near the Al-Aksa Mosque. Not a new story. Only weeks go, media expert Michael Widlanski reported that Voice of Palestine radio broke into its regular programming to announce that Israeli troops and Jewish extremists were invading Islamic holy places on the Temple Mount.

Following that, came a report that Jordan's Ambassador to Israel, Dr. Marouf Bakhit, had rushed to declare to officials at the Israeli Foreign Ministry that his country was outraged over the "provocative act" of a group of Jews who had the insolence to visit the Temple Mount in commemoration of Jerusalem Day. The official Jordanian news agency declared this "a provocative act that could stir up confrontation and evoke outrage of Muslims around the world."

It has been well documented that in September 2000 the Palestinian Authority used Ariel Sharon's visit to the Mount as a pretense for starting the Intifada they already had planned. This current incitement is bad news. Seems they're revving up the crowds again.

It is time, I suggest, for us to start thinking seriously about the Temple Mount and our relationship to it as Jews. This is not an issue simply for those advocating building of a Third Temple on the Mount. I advocate nothing of the sort; yet, I see that it affects us all.

It is, after all, the Temple Mount and not the Kotel (Western Wall) that is Judaism's holiest site. The Kotel is a retaining wall that helped to shore up the Mount on which the Temple stood, and so reflects the holiness of the place. But it is the Mount that is not only the site of the two Temples, but traditionally the site of many other momentous events in our history as well. It is identified as Mt. Moriyah, where the akeida (the sacrifice of Isaac) took place.

I am well aware that many think that this is "simply" ancient history and of no particular relevance to modern sensibilities. But this is not so. There is, first, the centrality of this place to our heritage. A people with pride does not lightly dismiss this. And then there is the sanctity that adheres: this is where the Holy of Holies stood, the sacred space the High Priest entered once a year. This is the place where the Jewish people communed with the Sh'khinah - the presence of the Almighty. The sanctity adheres.

About 1,300 years ago, the Muslims - for whom this is sacred territory with regard to Muhammad, said to have ascended to heaven from a rock on the Mount - built the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aksa Mosque nearby on the Mount. These were built on top of the remains of the Temple within the Mount. There is a great deal there, within; a labyrinth of tunnels and archeological remains. Excavations have never been permitted by the rabbis because of the sanctity of the place.

From 1948-1967, when Jordan was in control of the Old City of Jerusalem, no Jews were permitted there. Not at the Kotel, not anywhere in the vicinity.

When we retook the Old City in 1967, the Kotel and the Mount came into our possession. "Har HaBayit b'yadenu!" (the Temple Mount is in our hands.) went the joyous cry. There was singing at the site then, and praying and blowing of the shofar.

After that momentous capture, however, Moshe Dayan in what was presumed to be an act of tolerant wisdom and generosity - but which I perceive to have been an act of colossal stupidity - took down the Israeli flag from the Mount and called in Muslim religious leaders from the Islamic Trust (Wakf). Israel will retain over-all control, he told them, but he was turning over to them everyday control of the Mount, where they had holy structures. With that act, he took a large step towards surrender of the Mount - our Mount.

The Muslims are not interested in sharing. They are not interested in the kindness of our gestures. They are into taking control and banishing us. They perceive conciliation as weakness.

In recent years, there has been a series of decisions made by Israeli authorities that for me smack of appeasement, backing down that suggests we have no legitimate claim to be on the Mount. A mistake. Sometimes, no Jews are allowed up there at all. When Jews are allowed, they may not pray and must go only in controlled numbers. The point is not to "agitate the Muslim street." But they agitate anyway, and accuse us even of what we do not do.

It is time we maintained our legitimate presence on the Mount, and our right in principle to be there. Education must be done widely and forcefully, so that people understand precisely what this place is for us. It must be clear to all the world that this is not simply a "Muslim" place and that it matters to us, as well.

We in Israel are engaged in a battle for our survival. Let no one imagine that anything else is going on. The Palestinians, sly and crafty, are waging a "people's war", which means it is not waged just with violence, but also with lies and propaganda. One of the weapons they have been using is the fabrication that we do not have a legitimate history in this land, but that they do. We are merely colonial interlopers, occupiers. People believe it.

At the heart of this war is the Temple Mount, for that Mount is both the symbol and the concrete evidence of our ancient presence here. I cannot emphasize this sufficiently. If the Palestinians can convince the world that we did not have a presence on the Mount, then they will have robbed us of our oldest and deepest link to this land and our most solemn claim to it now. If we participate in this theft, by relinquishing what is ours through appeasement, apathy and foolishness, we will have done ourselves enormous harm.

Yasser Arafat told an astonished Bill Clinton that there were never Temples on the Mount. (I have no information on how Clinton responded.) Now Arafat's protege, Mahmoud Abbas, is on record with the same sort of statement. He also consistently calls for us to move back to the pre-'67 lines, which means relinquishing the Mount and the Kotel. There have been very extensive Muslim excavations within the Temple Mount, where they have constructed an interior mosque in an area called Solomon's Stables. In the course of this work, they dumped tons of rubble in a garbage heap; it included priceless archeological artifacts from Temple days. The objective was clearly to destroy the evidence of our having been there. Luckily, a private archeological venture by Israelis was begun that is sifting through the rubble and recovering the evidence

The Muslim intent and absolute lack of respect are clear.

Strength is required of us before it is too late.


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To: Fred Nerks
This was the rationale offered by true Arab scholars in ...

You cannot put 'true' in a sentence with Arab 'scholars'. Arabia has no scholars nor scientists. They have some pukes who have memorized the Koran. That's it.

41 posted on 09/15/2005 6:29:06 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: SauronOfMordor

See my post #40. If God wants the Temple rebuilt ... HE has to clean off Mt. Moriah.


42 posted on 09/15/2005 6:32:19 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: I got the rope
Are you muslim?

I am a Christian minister. I was working on an archaeological dig in Banias. We spent a few days in Jerusalem at the Seven Arches hotel on top of the Mount of Olives overlooking the city.

43 posted on 09/15/2005 6:33:59 PM PDT by arjay (May God give President Bush strength and comfort in this time of struggle!)
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To: SJackson

I'm all for turning the Temple Mount into a very deep hole - irrespective of who is squatting on it and nattering at the time.


44 posted on 09/15/2005 7:00:00 PM PDT by King Prout (and the Clinton Legacy continues: like Herpes, it is a gift that keeps on giving.)
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To: Texas Songwriter
Perhaps an earthquake will develope and mysteriously take down the mosque. I hope and pray it will happen.

That is exactly what is predicted by Zechariah.

45 posted on 09/15/2005 7:03:09 PM PDT by Alouette (Militant Neocon Pundit)
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To: SJackson
Re the title of this article: about time!

If the Palestinians can convince the world that we did not have a presence on the Mount, then they will have robbed us of our oldest and deepest link to this land and our most solemn claim to it now. If we participate in this theft, by relinquishing what is ours through appeasement, apathy and foolishness, we will have done ourselves enormous harm.

Oh, the sweet irony. Abe Foxman runs around crusading against a literal interpretation of the Bible, and the "palis" make this an article of their faith. This is Biblical demythologization taken to its logical conclusion.

This is not an issue simply for those advocating building of a Third Temple on the Mount. I advocate nothing of the sort

And why the blazes not???

46 posted on 09/15/2005 7:07:40 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Zakhor 'et 'asher `asah lekha `Amaleq baderekh betzei'tkha miMitzrayim . . .)
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To: SJackson
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47 posted on 09/15/2005 8:14:24 PM PDT by BigFinn
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To: SkyPilot

It makes sense the devil would mock God by having his people build a temple in such a place.


48 posted on 09/15/2005 8:18:59 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: SkyPilot
The Dome of the Crock.

Whooooeee. I'll give a big Amen to that. Isn't that a big black X on top of that crock? :o)

49 posted on 09/15/2005 8:30:48 PM PDT by NRA2BFree (PRAY FOR THE HURRICANE VICTIMS AND RESCUE WORKERS!)
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To: Alouette; TweetyinOhio
thank you for continuing to share this valuable info with me.. I read most of it but usually in WEE hours. My niece just joined FR.. she is married to a wonderful Jewish man.. would you add her to the ping list A?

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50 posted on 09/15/2005 8:39:39 PM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell GOD how big your storm is -- Tell the storm how B-I-G your s God is!)
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To: SkyPilot

"Matthew 24:2"

"In 70 AD, that happened. The Roman army destroyed it."

I appreciate your post, but keep in mind that there's a good chance that the Book of Matthew was written AFTER 70 AD, possibly as late as 85 AD. This means there's a good chance the "prophecy" could have been written after the event occurred, making it not a prophecy at all.

There is a brief discussion at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_of_Matthew


51 posted on 09/15/2005 8:48:06 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: Dark Skies

Well the "Dome of the Rock" is actually a converted Byzantine Church the Muslims captured when they invaded the country. So the Mosque clearly belongs to Christians. How about we give it back to Christians, would that satisfy you? The Christians were obviously there first, if buildings are your thing. I am sure we can oblige the Jews by giving the land the Muslim Hordes stole back to them. Or is your reality defined by Islam, not history, or buildings, or archeology, diversity or facts?


52 posted on 09/15/2005 9:47:56 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: el capitalista
It's interesting how their prophet has a halo of flames...

As does his "god" for in the Koran and Commentarys Allah does not live in paradise, but lives in hell stoking the flames with the unbelievers. Muslims are the most clueless lot on the face of the earth.

53 posted on 09/15/2005 9:54:30 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: ncountylee

I've been told it is..shi'ite holy..


54 posted on 09/15/2005 10:04:31 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alouette

Where exactly?


55 posted on 09/15/2005 10:05:43 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: Alouette

Where exactly?


56 posted on 09/15/2005 10:05:44 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: SJackson; SkyPilot; Alouette; Salem; sheik yerbouty; American in Israel; agrace; F15Eagle; ...
"The Muslims are not interested in sharing. They are not interested in the kindness of our gestures. They are into taking control and banishing us. They perceive conciliation as weakness."



"In recent years, there has been a series of decisions made by Israeli authorities that for me smack of appeasement, backing down that suggests we have no legitimate claim to be on the Mount. A mistake. Sometimes, no Jews are allowed up there at all. When Jews are allowed, they may not pray and must go only in controlled numbers. The point is not to "agitate the Muslim street." But they agitate anyway, and accuse us even of what we do not do."

Amen!

"It is time we maintained our legitimate presence on the Mount, and our right in principle to be there. Education must be done widely and forcefully, so that people understand precisely what this place is for us. It must be clear to all the world that this is not simply a "Muslim" place and that it matters to us, as well."

It should also be made clear that regardless of that the world thinks or says; Someone a lot bigger than the world declared what Jerusalem and the Temple Mount mean to Him! And He trumps all of Islam, Eurabia, and the UN combined without even straining a finger.
57 posted on 09/16/2005 5:06:58 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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To: SJackson
Muslims - for whom this is sacred territory with regard to Muhammad, said to have ascended to heaven from a rock on the Mount - built the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aksa Mosque nearby on the Mount.

This is nonsense. Jerusalem has absolutely no importance in the Koran. It is not mentioned even once. In contrast, Jerusalem is central in the Bible to both Judiasm and Christianity. Muslims invented this myth of Mohammed ascending to heaven on a "winged horse" (yeah, sure that really happened) over Jerusalem much much later. Islam is founded upon conquest and murder of non-Muslims. They conquered what is now Afghanistan--the birthplace of Hinduism--and destroyed the remnants of the former culture. They then concocted fictions regarding "holiness" of the area in fables, since they have no legitimate historical claim in fact. Similarly, they conquered Jerusalem, built the two mosques and claim it is holy to Islam. They are abominations of invaders and should be removed. Those mosques are as out of place in Jerusalem as were Soviet tanks in Prague. Moshe Dayan was a verminous traitor for giving control to the Wakf. His mistake should be undone NOW. Israelis can not afford to wait any longer.

59 posted on 09/16/2005 5:16:51 AM PDT by montag813
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To: SJackson
Luckily, a private archeological venture by Israelis was begun that is sifting through the rubble and recovering the evidence

It should be the other way around..."Palestinians" sorting through the rubble of the Al Asqa mosque after it is destroyed.

60 posted on 09/16/2005 5:20:17 AM PDT by montag813
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