Posted on 09/14/2005 9:24:24 PM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
Bush to Request More Aid Funding
Analysts Warn of Spending's Impact
By Jonathan Weisman and Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writers
Thursday, September 15, 2005; Page A01
President Bush will call tonight for an unprecedented federal commitment to rebuild New Orleans and other areas obliterated by Hurricane Katrina, putting the United States on pace to spend more in the next year on the storm's aftermath than it has over three years on the Iraq war, according to White House and congressional officials.
With the federal tab for Katrina already nearly quadruple the cost of the country's previous most expensive natural disaster cleanup, Bush plans to offer federal assistance to help flood victims find jobs, get housing and health care, and attend school, according to White House aides.
In a speech from the flood zone, Bush will commit the federal government to what many predict will become the largest reconstruction effort ever on U.S. soil.
The president will call on Washington to resist spending money unwisely, but some in his own party are already starting to recoil at a price tag expected to exceed $200 billion -- about the cost of the Iraq war and reconstruction efforts. As emergency expenditures soar -- with new commitments as high as $2 billion a day -- some budget analysts and conservative groups are warning that the Katrina spending has combined with earlier fiscal decisions in ways that will wreak havoc on the government's finances for years to come.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Hey Bush, if you really want the Black vote, just pretend you are democrat, make grandiose promises, and then do nothing.
This aid package has all the makings of gigantic boondoggle.
You make my point for me.
Fed spending shrank every yr under his admin.
Don't get mad at me for pointing out the GOP spends like drunken sailors. It's not my fault.
I think we are going to get a tax increase before dubya leaves the stage.
3+ years is a short stay for him?
I didn't look at his sign up date I just commented on his choice of pictures. It was bush league. No pun intended.
Further, Mr. Coolidge at no time during his administration, violated the Constitution. Not laying our unfortunate sequel from Mr. Coolidge's day at the feet of Mr. Bush, certainly, but gov't has now grown so overweening, and the Regress have become so arrogant, that between them they violate the Constitution almost daily.
Further, Mr. Coolidge at no time during his administration, violated the Constitution. Not laying our unfortunate sequel from Mr. Coolidge's day at the feet of Mr. Bush, certainly, but the Executive branch has now grown so overweening, and the Regress have become so arrogant, that between them they violate the Constitution almost daily.
My apologies for the double post (hangs head)...
Freidrich Hayek's "The Road to Serfdom" starts off with a dedication: "To the socialists of both parties"
It's for those times your losses aren't politically favored.
George W. Carter-Johnson.
This AK/LA/Tex transfer of wealth over since Jan 20,1989 has been brazen, to say the least.
I'd guess a trillion of of the treasury from Bush sr.,Bubba, and now W.
At least Mississippi is getting in on this robbery.
From
http://www.neoperspectives.com/foundingoftheunitedstates.htm
A few other statements and stories from past Presidents:
James Madison, the father of our Constitution, said, in a January 1794 speech in the House of Representatives, "The government of the United States is a definite government, confined to specified objects. It is not like state governments, whose powers are more general. Charity is no part of the legislative duty of the government."
Franklin Pierce, our 14th president, vetoed a bill to help the mentally ill, saying, "I cannot find any authority in the Constitution for public charity," adding that to approve such spending "would be contrary to the letter and the spirit of the Constitution and subversive to the whole theory upon which the Union of these States is founded."
In 1887, President Grover Cleveland, our 22nd and 24th president, said, when he vetoed a bill to assist drought-inflicted counties in Texas, "I feel obliged to withhold my approval of the plan to indulge in benevolent and charitable sentiment through the appropriation of public funds. ... I find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution." (44)
Edward Sylvester Ellis writes in The Life of Colonel David Crockett about a constituent of Congressmen Crocket who lectured Crocket about $20,000 he voted to give to families that had been left homeless in a D.C. fire:
"Yes I know you; you are Colonel Crockett. I have seen you once before, and voted for you the last time you were elected. I suppose you are out electioneering now, but you had better not waste your time or mine, I shall not vote for you again."
"It is not the amount, Colonel, that I complain of; it is the principle. In the first place, the government ought to have in the Treasury no more than enough for its legitimate purposes. But that has nothing with the question. The power of collecting and disbursing money at pleasure is the most dangerous power that can be entrusted to man, particularly under our system of collecting revenue by a tariff, which reaches every man in the country, no matter how poor he may be, and the poorer he is the more he pays in proportion to his means.
What is worse, it presses upon him without his knowledge where the weight centers, for there is not a man in the United States who can ever guess how much he pays to the government. So you see, that while you are contributing to relieve one, you are drawing it from thousands who are even worse off than he.
If you had the right to give anything, the amount was simply a matter of discretion with you, and you had as much right to give $20,000,000 as $20,000. If you have the right to give at all; and as the Constitution neither defines charity nor stipulates the amount, you are at liberty to give to any and everything which you may believe, or profess to believe, is a charity and to any amount you may think proper. You will very easily perceive what a wide door this would open for fraud and corruption and favoritism, on the one hand, and for robbing the people on the other. 'No, Colonel, Congress has no right to give charity." (33) (this is a great read)
Unfortunately, all of this is not self-evident to members of our current government and, most disappointingly, to members of the Republican party. These principles were at one time the heart and soul of the Republican party, but it seems many members, including our current President, are increasingly thinking like the elitists.
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And best of all, from a recent BBC story:
Before Katrina, America's greatest natural disaster was another Mississippi flood - that of 1927 - which made half a million homeless. At the time Republican President Calvin Coolidge refused even to recall Congress to vote emergency money. He was so inactive that when Dorothy Parker, a few years later, was told he was dead, she asked, "How do they know?"
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As Calvin Coolige said:
"Perhaps one of the most important accomplishments of my administration has been minding my own business."
President Bush should mind his own business too and donate some of his own money and steal $0.00, from the rest of the citizens, aka 'the public' for Hurricane Katrina relief.
I think I am signing up for welfare next week. That way I get free disaster insurance from "Uncle Sugardaddy".
Uh... the article does say *anything* about Bush saying that he's going to spend 200B. It says that "some in the party say the price tag could exceed..." and other claptrap to that effect.
Yeesh... It's one thing to believe lamestream reports like the WA Post, and quite another to see things that aren't even there.
Simmer down, people... please...
That's true about "their hatred for Bush over-rides their desire for more federal spending". But really, wanting to win a few elections again over-rides their desire for more federal spending even more. The liberals (democrats, anyway) learned 20 years ago that out of control spending was a political 'loser'. They got spanked a few times and they changed their tune a bit.
From our pockets, the usual place. Have you looked at your phone bills lately? My last bill was about 20% federal taxes. GWB may have cut income taxes, but overall more taxes are being paid than ever before, they simply get it from other taxations.
just for fun. 200 billion in $20 bills. I got the weight and volume of money off the web, correct me if I'm wrong.
200 $20's is 7 oz
a 25x14x12 suitcase holds a million in $20's
$200 billion is;
21,875,000 pounds of $20's
200,000 suitcases of $20's
486,000 cu ft of $20's
it would take over 109 B747 aircraft to carry this weight.
Holy crabs is right!
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