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U.S. House backs hate crime measure protecting gays
Reuters ^ | 9-14-2005 | Joanne Kenen

Posted on 09/14/2005 4:28:18 PM PDT by COEXERJ145

WASHINGTON, Sept 14 (Reuters) - The U.S. House of Representatives on Wednesday unexpectedly backed a measure to expand federal hate crime protection to gay people, a measure that House conservatives had blocked for years.

The Senate has passed similar legislation, which also expanded protections for the disabled, several times in recent years but House conservatives had argued that these cases should be dealt with on a local or state level without additional federal intervention.

This time the hate crime measure was attached to a bipartisan bill known as the Children's Safety Act aimed at tightening reporting requirements for child sex offenders. Companion legislation has not yet moved through the Senate, so the ultimate fate of the gay protection provision is uncertain.

Still backers were jubilant.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News
KEYWORDS: 109th; gopbuttsex; gopsellouts; homosexualagenda; hr3132; perverts; rinos; thoughtpolice; wedidnotvoteforthis
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To: snarkytart
"This time the hate crime measure was attached to a bipartisan bill known as the Children's Safety Act aimed at tightening reporting requirements for child sex offenders"

LOL...now THAT is ironic!
241 posted on 09/15/2005 9:27:05 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: AuH2ORepublican

EVERY hate-crime law is fascist and should be struck from the books.


242 posted on 09/15/2005 9:33:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (*Fightin' the system like a $2 hooker on crack*)
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To: HostileTerritory

"I've always thought that Mike Castle's personal life was an open secret in Delaware. I've seen that mentioned elsewhere."



I'd never heard that before. Interesting.

Boy, that House of Representatives cloakroom must have one huge closet.


243 posted on 09/15/2005 9:33:45 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: COEXERJ145

When do we get a hate crime and hate speech bill out of the Congress for liberal hate and liberal hate speech against conservative and the president? Right, I know, when pigs fly.


244 posted on 09/15/2005 9:40:13 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (All democrats are ENEMIES of the Republic!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

"EVERY hate-crime law is fascist and should be struck from the books."



I agree 100%. The First Amendment stands for the proposition that the government can't dictate which viewpoints are correct and which viewpoints are verboten, and hate-crime laws are certainly not viewpoint neutral (if you beat a gay Republican because he's a Republican, you get 10 years in prison, but if you beat the same gay Republican because he's gay, you get 30 years in prison). I've never understood why Scalia shied away from the First-Amendment principles he so eloquently espoused in his majority opinion in RAV v. City of St. Paul when hate-crime-law cases reached the Court.


245 posted on 09/15/2005 9:41:04 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (http://auh2orepublican.blogspot.com/)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thanks for the details.


246 posted on 09/15/2005 9:49:23 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: rocksblues

"The hate crimes amendment would expand existing federal hate crime program to add sexual orientation, gender, gender identity and disability to federal hate crime laws. "

Excatly what would NOT be a hate crime under this law?


247 posted on 09/15/2005 10:01:54 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: HiTech RedNeck

"I don't think Bush will sign anything like that.'

Betcha he will, bush signs EVERYTHING that comes across his desk from congress.


248 posted on 09/15/2005 10:03:05 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: COEXERJ145

btt


249 posted on 09/15/2005 10:03:07 AM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: angrylibertarian

"Furthermore, this doesn't abridge your freedom of speech-- assualting or murdering someone is not an allowable form of expression and never has been. If the old law didn't outlaw the Klan, the new one won't stop you from speaking your beliefs either. The bill simply expands the old program to also cover disabilities, gender, gender identity and sexual orientation. No, it won't make church illegal either."

Well this is only because we haven't gotten far enough along to start making speech itself criminal, except in airports. 'incitement of hatred' is one i bet you money we will be hearing about as a major problem needed legislation in the next decade.


250 posted on 09/15/2005 10:07:55 AM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: montag813

I did hear that exchange, and I totally agree with what you said.


251 posted on 09/15/2005 10:17:31 AM PDT by kesg
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Thus far, GWB has vetoed nothing.


































252 posted on 09/15/2005 10:48:16 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: mlc9852

Crimes should be defined by clear facts, as ACTIONS that violate the rights of another person, regardless of what that person's race/gender/nationality/ethnicity/sexual practices may be. When we start making crimes against some but not others "hate crimes" by trying to peer inside someone's brain to determine whether they are said to 'hate' a certain category of people, we have simply expanded the leftist conception of "thought crime"..... Think of the converse: let's say person X commits the same violent act against someone who happens to be a "caucasian heterosexual male".... somehow that's a lesser crime because it doesn't include the thought component of 'hate' for gays, etc.??????? Anyway, until the PC-police start including black-on-white "hate crimes" in their litany it will continue to be obvious that they operate with a highly selective and distorted conception of 'hate'.....


253 posted on 09/15/2005 11:09:15 AM PDT by Enchante (Don't put up with Michael Moore-on's slanders anymore!)
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To: COEXERJ145

Will W sign it?


254 posted on 09/15/2005 11:21:44 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: Dane

Weird votes on both sides.

Mike Pence votes for it...and Steve Chabot...but Dennis Kucinich and Stephanie Tubbs-Jones against??

Something smells. There has to be something in this bill. Or the water...


255 posted on 09/15/2005 11:25:34 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

Thank you very much for this info. We now have a plan of action we can use.


256 posted on 09/15/2005 11:27:04 AM PDT by Killborn (God bless the rescuers, God bless the Commander in Chief, and God bless America.)
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To: JCEccles

Perhaps we're being duped by Reuters...


257 posted on 09/15/2005 11:29:04 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: Dane

That looks a little better...


258 posted on 09/15/2005 11:33:00 AM PDT by RockinRight (What part of ILLEGAL immigration do they not understand?)
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To: little jeremiah
Well, look around. People will be asking the same question years from now about people in the US.

There's still hope.


259 posted on 09/15/2005 11:47:08 AM PDT by Freebird Forever (A thousand Bravehearts are better than one)
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To: Tench_Coxe
Nice picture--nice statement.

If the law is passed, you and I can tell anyone that we dislike some "homo-sapiens."

Many years ago, a politician won especially having told the voters that his opponent was a "homo-sapien." They didn't know the meaning of the word.
260 posted on 09/15/2005 11:57:47 AM PDT by GOPologist ("On some days you may feel like a dog; on other days you may feel like a hydrant!")
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