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Disarming the National Guard? [PA Guard unit serving in LA ordered to remove magazines from rifles]
Michelle Malkin ^ | September 13, 2005 | Michelle Malkin

Posted on 09/14/2005 12:29:25 PM PDT by John Jorsett

Posters note: This has been rectified (see last item at the bottom), but it still serves as a lesson on how far some people will go in the name of making us "safe" from guns.

Looks like civilians aren't the only ones being disarmed in the Katrina disaster area.

An old Philadelphia acquaintance of mine who serves in a leadership position in a National Guard infantry company, deployed to Bogalusa, Louisiana, on security missions in support of Hurricane Katrina operations, sends along a plea for self-defense help:

We fall under Task Force Santa Fe, commanded by GEN Mason, commanding general of the 35th Infantry Division. Gen Mason has issued us the order to remove the magazines from our weapons, a move that will put my soldiers lives in jeopardy. If a soldier has a problem here, he needs to remove the magazine from the pouch, insert it in the weapon, pull the charging handle, aim the weapon, place the selector lever on "safe" and then fire. It takes a good soldier approximately 6-9 seconds to do this under normal conditions. This is not counting the stress of being under fire, or having a life threatening emergency, which would probably double that time. Hell, 6 seconds is an eternity on the street. We still have a threat here, the police don't want us to go, nor do the citizenry. Since our arrival we helped reduce crime to record levels here. The main reason behind this is we are working with a LTC Landis of the PA Air guard who only wishes to go home, forget the mission, he wants to get his people and himself back to PA. We, on the other hand, would be stuck here, veritably unarmed in squalid conditions in Hammond, LA. The reason given by Gen Mason is that he would reduce the chance of an accidental discharge of a weapon. I have to ask, what looks worse, an accidental discharge or a soldier killed by a criminal? Sen Santorum is supposedly aware of this situation. Please help.

There's more info on the much-needed--and much-welcomed--security operations of my acquaintance's unit here.If you're serving in the National Guard and have had a similar experience, drop me a line.

E-mail Sen. Santorum here.

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Hmmm. Wonder if the National Guardsmen whom this Democratic congressman used as personal escorts to his New Orleans house were allowed to carry fully-loaded weapons? (ABC News via Drudge)

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9/14 morning update: Just received from my National Guard source:

The situation I described in an email earlier about the PA Guard in Louisiana being told to disarm byt a MGEN Mason, has ben rectified. BGEN Jones, the overall ground commander, has overidden Gen Mason's orders. We found this out at about 10 last night. Hope this didn't start a little row somewhere.

Looks like it worked.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; antimilitary; atf; banglist; batf; disarmament; disarmement; malkin; michellemalkin; nationalguard; righttokeepandbear; rkba; secondamendment; un; unconstitutional
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1 posted on 09/14/2005 12:29:29 PM PDT by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett

Democrats are gunphobic.


2 posted on 09/14/2005 12:31:01 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heros have always been cowboys-Reagan and Bush)
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To: John Jorsett

They do this all the time.


3 posted on 09/14/2005 12:32:12 PM PDT by wingnutx (tanstaafl)
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To: John Jorsett

Unreal.


4 posted on 09/14/2005 12:32:56 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: John Jorsett
The marine guards guarding the barracks in Beirut had the same order - the result - over 200 dead marines in an islamic suicide attack. Lesson Learned - when you deploy solders, either you trust them to be armed or don't deploy them...
5 posted on 09/14/2005 12:34:13 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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To: John Jorsett

An old trick out of the Clinton playbook.


6 posted on 09/14/2005 12:34:36 PM PDT by johnb838 (I got nuthin to say,)
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To: John Jorsett
"What the hell are we supposed to use, man, harsh language?"
7 posted on 09/14/2005 12:34:40 PM PDT by Snake65 (Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace-- but there is no peace. The war is actually begun!)
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To: John Jorsett
In 1983. the marine guards guarding the barracks in Beirut had the same order - the result - over 200 dead marines in an islamic suicide attack. Lesson Learned - when you deploy soldiers, either you trust them to be armed or don't deploy them...
8 posted on 09/14/2005 12:35:29 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - They want to die for Islam, and we want to kill them.)
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Sounds like Gen. Mason needs to remove himself from the "ARMED" Forces. Because he obviously has forgotten a few things.


9 posted on 09/14/2005 12:35:44 PM PDT by kx9088
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To: John Jorsett
Here is what liberals are thinking


10 posted on 09/14/2005 12:35:58 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: johnb838

No Magazine!

11 posted on 09/14/2005 12:36:05 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: John Jorsett
Sounds like Gen. Honore screaming at the National Guard arriving in NO that they should point their weapons downward or sling them over their shoulders to the rear.

That NO is not Baghdad.

What a pathetic bunch of leaders.

12 posted on 09/14/2005 12:36:10 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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To: yldstrk

you telling me Sean Penns was not loaded ?


13 posted on 09/14/2005 12:36:19 PM PDT by kendu
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To: John Jorsett
If a General can't trust his men, what good are they or he?

If a General won't trust his men, he makes them as bad as he.

A General must trust his men, and effect that trust, when it is lacking.

14 posted on 09/14/2005 12:36:34 PM PDT by bvw
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Wonder if the National Guardsmen whom this Democratic congressman used as personal escorts to his New Orleans house were allowed to carry fully-loaded weapons?

They were probably disarmed. The congressman wouldn't have wanted to be surrounded by a bunch of armed men who were good and mad at him.

15 posted on 09/14/2005 12:36:43 PM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Snake65
"What the hell are we supposed to use, man, harsh language?"

Those who don't learn the lessons of "Aliens" flirt with disaster :-).

16 posted on 09/14/2005 12:36:45 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: 2banana

Reminds me of Kerry voting to use force in Iraq and later saying "I thought we were just going to threaten him." Don't draw a firearm unless you're prepared to use it.


17 posted on 09/14/2005 12:36:58 PM PDT by johnb838 (I got nuthin to say,)
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To: John Jorsett

WTF?


18 posted on 09/14/2005 12:36:58 PM PDT by JimWforBush (Alcohol - For the best times you'll never remember)
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To: John Jorsett
Flew about two or three weeks after Sept 11, 2001.

National Guardsman in airports were carrying M16A2s, also sans magazine.

Made a great object lesson for my kids.

19 posted on 09/14/2005 12:37:06 PM PDT by George Smiley (This tagline deliberately targeted journalists.)
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To: 2banana
You are correct. The Marines in Lebanon were unarmed.

Didn't want to upset the natives, you know.

The officers on the bridge of the USS Cole had no ammunition in their weapons either.

Pathetic.

20 posted on 09/14/2005 12:37:19 PM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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