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Intelligent design [was] old news to Darwin
Chicago Tribune ^ | 13 September 2005 | Tom Hundley

Posted on 09/13/2005 4:15:07 AM PDT by PatrickHenry

So what would Charles Darwin have to say about the dust-up between today's evolutionists and intelligent designers?

Probably nothing.

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Even after he became one of the most famous and controversial men of his time, he was always content to let surrogates argue his case.

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From his university days Darwin would have been familiar with the case for intelligent design. In 1802, nearly 30 years before the Beagle set sail, William Paley, the reigning theologian of his time, published "Natural Theology" in which he laid out his "Argument from Design."

Paley contended that if a person discovered a pocket watch while taking a ramble across the heath, he would know instantly that this was a designed object, not something that had evolved by chance. Therefore, there must be a designer. Similarly, man -- a marvelously intricate piece of biological machinery -- also must have been designed by "Someone."

If this has a familiar ring to it, it's because this is pretty much the same argument that intelligent design advocates use today.

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The first great public debate took place on June 30, 1860, in a packed hall at Oxford University's new Zoological Museum.

Samuel Wilberforce, the learned bishop of Oxford, was champing at the bit to demolish Darwin's notion that man descended from apes. As always, Darwin stayed home. His case was argued by one of his admirers, biologist Thomas Huxley.

Wilberforce drew whoops of glee from the gallery when he sarcastically asked Huxley if he claimed descent from the apes on his grandmother's side or his grandfather's. Huxley retorted that he would rather be related to an ape than to a man of the church who used half-truths and nonsense to attack science.

The argument continues unabated ...

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To: Right Wing Professor; RightWingNilla; js1138; general_re; Thatcherite

See #1480.


1,481 posted on 09/17/2005 9:47:39 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: PatrickHenry
You mean Gore3000 has been banished again?
1,482 posted on 09/17/2005 11:31:45 AM PDT by balrog666 (A myth by any other name is still inane.)
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To: ml1954
That's what I thought you meant.

I stand corrected. Guess it was naive of me to give the benefit of the doubt.

1,483 posted on 09/17/2005 11:48:12 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: balrog666

Non-controversial placemarker.


1,485 posted on 09/17/2005 2:00:16 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"If there was no God, I wouldn't care who knew it."

An honest admission you don't care about the truth. Thanks.

Huh??

1,486 posted on 09/17/2005 8:17:05 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Admin Moderator; All
Please stop spamming.

What is the 'FR official' definition of SPAM?

Length?

Content?

1,487 posted on 09/17/2005 8:18:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Admin Moderator; All
From FR's front page....
 
 
 

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1,488 posted on 09/17/2005 8:26:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Thatcherite

1431?

Ask the AM.

He(she?) yanked it and 1361 and 1365.


I do not keep a record of every thing I post.


1,489 posted on 09/17/2005 8:33:07 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: Elsie
Now 1484 is GONE!

Alien bodyPOSTsnatcher alert!!!


1,490 posted on 09/17/2005 8:35:30 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: general_re

Well said LOL.


1,491 posted on 09/17/2005 9:18:45 PM PDT by Gazoo
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To: Elsie

Did you miss the injunction against multiple font-colours and comic-book faces in the posting rules?


1,492 posted on 09/18/2005 1:21:40 AM PDT by Thatcherite (Conservative and Biblical Literalist are not synonymous)
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To: Thatcherite
Evidently!

1,493 posted on 09/18/2005 5:11:40 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: All

Did you folks know that the event at NO was predicted??

Proverbs 22:3


1,494 posted on 09/18/2005 5:13:09 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: PatrickHenry

Festival of the Deteriorating Troll


1,495 posted on 09/18/2005 7:26:22 AM PDT by longshadow
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To: Elsie
Proverbs 22:3

Words to live by.

Hardly a specific prediction of an event, though.

1,496 posted on 09/18/2005 11:06:24 AM PDT by Quark2005 (Where's the science?)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Here's an answer:

Such a God would be self evident and would need no more acknowledgement than the nearest oak tree.

If He wanted universal acknowledgement, that is.


1,497 posted on 09/18/2005 11:58:32 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: longshadow

Big prime coming up ...


1,498 posted on 09/18/2005 1:23:40 PM PDT by PatrickHenry (Disclaimer -- this information may be legally false in Kansas.)
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To: Blzbba
Biblical Creation is a nice story for small children, but it's not science, nor is it provable, nor is it observable.

And evolution is provable and observable? No, it is a fable when it starts with: "millions and millions of years ago in deep space there was nothing and all that nothing came together and compressed into one dot, smaller than a period on a page and that dot of nothing started spinning, ..." Now that is a fable!

But, He who created all things, Christ Jesus, did give every man, woman and child a free will to make their own decisions and follow and believe either Him or the devil, all make a choice, I have made mine, you seem to have made yours.

1,499 posted on 09/19/2005 5:06:32 AM PDT by newsgatherer
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To: PatrickHenry

1,500 !


1,500 posted on 09/19/2005 7:04:02 AM PDT by dread78645 (Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
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