Posted on 09/13/2005 4:15:07 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
So what would Charles Darwin have to say about the dust-up between today's evolutionists and intelligent designers?
Probably nothing.
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Even after he became one of the most famous and controversial men of his time, he was always content to let surrogates argue his case.
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From his university days Darwin would have been familiar with the case for intelligent design. In 1802, nearly 30 years before the Beagle set sail, William Paley, the reigning theologian of his time, published "Natural Theology" in which he laid out his "Argument from Design."
Paley contended that if a person discovered a pocket watch while taking a ramble across the heath, he would know instantly that this was a designed object, not something that had evolved by chance. Therefore, there must be a designer. Similarly, man -- a marvelously intricate piece of biological machinery -- also must have been designed by "Someone."
If this has a familiar ring to it, it's because this is pretty much the same argument that intelligent design advocates use today.
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The first great public debate took place on June 30, 1860, in a packed hall at Oxford University's new Zoological Museum.
Samuel Wilberforce, the learned bishop of Oxford, was champing at the bit to demolish Darwin's notion that man descended from apes. As always, Darwin stayed home. His case was argued by one of his admirers, biologist Thomas Huxley.
Wilberforce drew whoops of glee from the gallery when he sarcastically asked Huxley if he claimed descent from the apes on his grandmother's side or his grandfather's. Huxley retorted that he would rather be related to an ape than to a man of the church who used half-truths and nonsense to attack science.
The argument continues unabated ...
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bluepistolero
Have you ever wondered who "us" is in the phrase "as one of us"?
Unless you hear the Word itself, you cannot understand my answer. We are in two different worlds, with two distinct languages.
It really is a simple question. Why can't you provide a simple direct answer? How do you know the Bible is the word of God?
bluepistolero
Nice reference to Matt 7:6.
Also, Romans 10:17
So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
I would have to preach you a sermon filled with God's word, for you to understand. You would actually have to hear it. Every Christian knows that what I say is true, I am not giving you the run around.
bluepistolero
Have you, too, chosen to side with the King?
Homeland Security
Council of Guardians
Department of Morals and Ethical Behavior
FEMA
With respect, you are missing my point.
Short answer to your question:
it would be a dreadful thing for 'EVERYONE' to believe in 'my' God. I am not so arrogant as to suppose that 'my' God is even meaningful to anyone else.
This is called faith in fellow man, however often that faith may be disappointed, and a deep love of freedom.
Yes.
But I do believe in the science of evolutionary biology.
I would have to preach you a sermon filled with God's word, for you to understand.
I think I'll pass. I think it is a simple question and has a simple answer.
He has sent the Comforter to lead us into all truth. (John 14)
I'm glad you've chosen His side.
bluepistolero
With respect, you are giving a transparently evasive answer
Some posts back, you were happy to be associated with Dr E.'s assertions; I invited you to comment, if you wish, on some of the quotes, in #1002, from one of the authors in tracts promoted by Dr. E.
From the looks of it, I doubt you'd agree with most of my theological positions, but thank you nonetheless.
I have no time to read tripe, even recommended tripe. Lists o links, whatever.
Dr. Eckleburg is a fine Christian and has already stated several times that he is not what some here are trying to smear him as. Knowing that, I would, yes, stand with him, to the end, pistoleros blazing.
bluepistolero
OK, I'll take that as your answer to my question. Thanks
'Guardians of Morals, Ethical Behavior, and Homeland Security' sounds good. But it just doesn't grab you like Ayatollah does.
bluepistolero
Then I would like to hear it.
You choose to believe.
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