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Delta Airlines Reported to File Chapter 11 Within 48 Hours.
Fox News, 6;08 PM | Sept 12, 2005 | AGP

Posted on 09/12/2005 3:15:48 PM PDT by AGreatPer

Just reported that Delta will file for Chapter 11 within 48 hours.

My words - Northwestern won't be far behind.


TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: airplanes; dal; unions
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To: Pylon
Northwests' DC-9's average 34 years in age.

Back about 10 years ago, I think it was, NWA decided to upgrade their -9s instead of replacing them. All new avionics, the works.

81 posted on 09/12/2005 4:36:48 PM PDT by cardinal4 ("When the Levee breaks, Mama, you got to move....")
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To: SolarisRocks

I would imagine one of the big reasons for Delta to file now is the fact that under the new Code, which takes effect next month, it will be almost impossible to get a KERP (a "Key Employee Retention Program"), which is basically a bonus/incentive program that they give to top execs so they won't leave during the bankruptcy. Trust me, you will see a lot of businesses filing chapter 11 between now and Oct 17. If they are teetering, they will lean towards filing. Just my two cents (I'm a bankr. atty).


82 posted on 09/12/2005 4:37:47 PM PDT by bamared
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To: supercat

I would've used the term "mortgage" if I wanted to write that exact same sentence just excluding the slang term "hock"..


83 posted on 09/12/2005 4:38:06 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: rawhide

"And, in Ch 11, they can get rid of their pension plan"

getting rid of pensions, unfavorable union contracts, unsecured debt will be merely a formality. They'll be able to get out of contracts for gates at major hub facilities, if they are too expensive.

Still, I think it would be better to let these marginal airlines go out of business so that companies that know how to make money can do it without competitors that are subsidized by government loans and protected by bankruptcy courts.

Anybody know if the government loans of post 9-11 get priority over other creditors?


84 posted on 09/12/2005 4:38:07 PM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: AntiGuv

I found that, too, while digging around on this issue.

It is indeed a very cool site! :)


85 posted on 09/12/2005 4:38:44 PM PDT by MikeGranby
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To: cardinal4
Even though they are gas guzzlers, it makes sense to keep them for short hauls because they are paid for.
86 posted on 09/12/2005 4:38:53 PM PDT by Pylon (Remember boys, flies spread disease, so keep yours closed.)
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To: supercat

Amazingly enough, my term is far more precisely what is being done than the slang term used by Reuters..


87 posted on 09/12/2005 4:39:13 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I remember what a friend of mine got hired in 1996 during the height of prosperity. They told him at the Marriott in Atlanta - "Welcome to the Million Dollar Club."
88 posted on 09/12/2005 4:39:54 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: SkyPilot
Delta going bankrupt?

Why? Look for the Union Label!


89 posted on 09/12/2005 4:40:56 PM PDT by BlackRain
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To: cardinal4; Pukin Dog
Card---this nation needs dispatchers like you. Hang in there---and do what you do.
90 posted on 09/12/2005 4:42:01 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: supercat

Last but not least, Reuters is supposedly a British news service and "hock" is a slang Americanism; most definitely not the Queen's English. Oh how far the mighty have fallen.. ;^)


91 posted on 09/12/2005 4:42:12 PM PDT by AntiGuv (™)
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To: AGreatPer
They want the government (taxpayers) to pay for their pensions obviously.
92 posted on 09/12/2005 4:43:20 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SkyPilot
Card---this nation needs dispatchers like you. Hang in there---and do what you do.

Hey, thanks a lot!

93 posted on 09/12/2005 4:43:42 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Wake of the Flood..)
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To: dr_lew

"Nothing to do with ham hocks, or "hawk". [sic]

The ONLY proper use of hock IS ham hock--with blackeyed-peas, a little onion and cornbread. All the rest of babble.


94 posted on 09/12/2005 4:44:46 PM PDT by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: righttackle44
"with blackeyed-peas"

Gotta love that comment. In the middle of some not so series stuff, a great comment comes out.

95 posted on 09/12/2005 4:48:47 PM PDT by AGreatPer
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To: Habibi
Umm. I hate to tell you that United does not operate either of these aircraft.

True (as an earlier poster pointed out.) Northwest does. But UAL was still flying old 727s in the late '90s.

96 posted on 09/12/2005 4:50:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Rick Nash will score 50 goals this season ( if there is a season)
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To: AntiGuv

I think the word is used correctly, as in encumber, not sell. That is because it referred to "unencumbered" assets. Also, I don't the term "hawk" would be used as opposed to sell, while hock might as opposed to "put up as security" since the latter is rather cumbersom. And there you have it.


97 posted on 09/12/2005 4:54:11 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Paleo Conservative
Remember, "We're gonna move our tails for you..." from Continental Airlines ? They were the "Proud Bird with the Golden Tail"
98 posted on 09/12/2005 4:56:37 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: buccaneer81
But UAL was still flying old 727s in the late '90s.

So was TWA. The death of TWA was one of the saddest things in the biz. In fact we took over their old ops building and our dispatch floor is their old one. I remember flying on an old TWA 707 from FCO-BOS back in '79. Remember the 707?? One of my favorites..

99 posted on 09/12/2005 5:00:01 PM PDT by cardinal4 (Wake of the Flood..)
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To: ARA

Continental? Really? Good to know; flying them next week.


100 posted on 09/12/2005 5:00:07 PM PDT by RightOnline
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