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CCRKBA CALLS FOR FEDERAL INVESTIGATION, ACCOUNTING ON NEW ORLEANS GUN SEIZURES
Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms ^ | September 12, 2005 | CCRKBA

Posted on 09/12/2005 2:47:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

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To: Tench_Coxe

I expect this will happen with increasing frequency in the future. And I don't like it.



You've hit the nail on the head, I'm afraid.

And yes, I AM afraid!

I think that what we're seeing down there is an exercize. They're doing a trial run, honing the procedures, dealing with the PR issues, and, the biggie, establishing PRECEDENT!

I think this might be a good time to take another look at the 29 Palms "Combat Arms Survey".


41 posted on 09/13/2005 3:24:11 AM PDT by Tom Thumbs
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To: Balding_Eagle

The first gun control laws were proposed and enacted by Democrats to prevent Blacks (Negro's at that time) from obtaining weapons.

The Blacks (Seesh, should I call them Negro's? This constant changing of the names by the RATS is confusing), anyway the Negro's were using them to protect themselves and their families against the KKK (read future Democrat Senators).

The fact that they would again focus on minorities ability to defend themselves against criminals surprises no one at FR, I'm sure. That's what elitists do.



Also, the GCA68 was copied pretty much word-for-word by Dodd from Hitler's 1938 Gun Control Law.

A mere thirty years, a requisition from the Library of Congress, and a call for government-supplied translation services, and suddenly the Third Reich finds fertile soil in Liberal America. For real!


42 posted on 09/13/2005 3:27:10 AM PDT by Tom Thumbs
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To: Chode; Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That's the 29 Palms "Combat Arms Survey" I mentioned earlier, but did the JBS go and REALLY quote from "The Spotlight"?

I hope not -- but even if they did, I'd like for US to find one of the countless OTHER sources when referencing it here.

Even apart from that old scoundrel Carto's antisemitic ravings, there's the problem that if we DO quote from "The Spotlight" -- even if it's just something THEY picked up from a valid source -- we open ourselves up to attack for "quoting from those lunatics who preached 'The Protocols of The Elders of Zion'".

And in the process, we will ensure that many if not most readers will discount the actual message (that being the "Combat Arms Survey", which had NOTHING to do with "The Spotlight").


43 posted on 09/13/2005 3:33:05 AM PDT by Tom Thumbs
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To: rebel_yell2

Any recommendations on what weapon I should purchase and where I could purchase it?



If you really want to poke your thumb into the eyes of the antis, join the DCM, and have them MAIL you a genuine Garand Rifle.

Just think of the looks you'll get when you walk into the Post Office to pick it up!


44 posted on 09/13/2005 3:35:15 AM PDT by Tom Thumbs
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To: LibertyRocks

I've seen others versions of the clip though, and I too thought I remembered it being on FOX. I'll see if I can't find some of the other links. In this one you can hear her swearing at them after they tackled her. They say she had a knife as well as the gun, but I didn't see a knife. Also she wasn't holding her gun in a threatening manner. She did state - "you'll have to shoot me".



I saw the knife.

She was holding the gun and the knife together in the same hand, in a completely NON-threatening manner. The knife was closed, and the gun... well, it was an old revolver (looked like 1956 Highway Patrol .38 Special, probably had a hammer with the firing pin welded on -- a five-shot-safe handgun).

She was holding the revolver BY the cylinder. As UN-threatening as it gets.

She wasn't trying to intimidate them. She was trying to SHOW them that she was OK on her own, that she could look after herself.

They, on the other hand, were trying to provoke her, ridicule her, intimidate her, and ultimately, they just decided to jump her and drag her out of her home, after STEALING her gun and knife.

Bastards...


45 posted on 09/13/2005 3:39:09 AM PDT by Tom Thumbs
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To: Squantos

I'm so glad to see this thread. Thought you may be interested in it also.


46 posted on 09/13/2005 3:51:46 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Tom Thumbs

I wonder if she has a good case for a lawsuit. If not her, someone else. I'm not talking about suing the LE on the scene. Instead, it's the people like Nagin and that police chief who need to be held to account in some way. No matter how you look at it, they are denying these N.O. residents their basic constitutional rights.


47 posted on 09/13/2005 3:59:10 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Nita Nupress

The most discouraging/disgusting part of that entire scene was watching her tell them that she did NOT want them in her home, and that they should LEAVE.

At that point, they were TRESPASSING. They had NO warrant, and NO probable cause.

Instead, they turned into what can only be described as armed home invaders.

Her first mistake was letting them into her house. I can't really fault her for it, because it was one scared elderly person versus a bunch of young, strong AUTHORITY figures who undoubtedly wooed her with a mix of "we REALLY want to HELP you" and raw intimidation, to get her to let them in.

Once they got their foot in the door, the outcome was certain.


48 posted on 09/13/2005 4:06:41 AM PDT by Tom Thumbs
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To: Tom Thumbs

"If you really want to poke your thumb into the eyes of the antis, join the DCM, and have them MAIL you a genuine Garand Rifle.

Just think of the looks you'll get when you walk into the Post Office to pick it up!"

One slight correction. CMP, formerly known as DCM, doesn't send firearms through the mail. They ship Fedex Next Day Air to your home address, more than likely to cut down on the chance of theft. An adult has to sign for the package. I bought two firearms through CMP, a Garand and a Springfield '03.


49 posted on 09/13/2005 8:26:51 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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To: Tom Thumbs

You mean Birdman Weapons Systems, "Unfriendly Products for an Unfriendly World"? Unfortunately, it looks like they're still offline.


50 posted on 09/13/2005 8:44:05 AM PDT by kildak
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To: LibertyRocks

Wow, thanks! I spent a good hour yesterday looking for it all over before I gave up.

Probably the first time I "IIRC'd" and was correct, heh.

That video still outrages me - and no - she was not holding the gun in a threatening manner, she was palming it, unless they consider just holding one at all, threatening. Which it seems they do in New Orleans. I suspect she will have a lawsuit soon.


51 posted on 09/13/2005 9:01:04 AM PDT by cgk (We'll have to deal w/ the networks. One way to do that is to drain the swamp they live in - Rumsfeld)
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To: Balding_Eagle

i thought the first gun control laws were to give fdr's prohibition tax officers something to do after prohibition was ended?


52 posted on 09/13/2005 9:09:10 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: LibertyRocks
"Credit for this link and pic goes to Freeper B4Ranch DocRock - I hope you don't mind my stealing the pic and reposting the link on this thread."

I keep these on my homepage along with my latest creation, "Constitutional Crisis". Feel free to use them anytime. Here is the new one I made. The first segment is pixilated and if anyone has a clean copy, I would be happy to use it. Thanks

Warning, Large File

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Click the Pic to read about the Violation of the First Amendment
To Read About Freedom of The Press
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53 posted on 09/13/2005 9:11:22 AM PDT by DocRock (Osama said, "We love death, the U.S. loves life, that is the main difference between us.")
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To: rebel_yell2

first gun to buy for personal protection in home should be a good pump shotgun.
mossberg 500/ 590
remington 870
best is 12 ga for availability and low cost of ammo.
and a couple cases of various shot sizes and slugs would be appropriate.


54 posted on 09/13/2005 9:14:53 AM PDT by absolootezer0 ("My God, why have you forsaken us.. no wait, its the liberals that have forsaken you... my bad")
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To: rebel_yell2

12 guage shotgun
.22 cal rifle
ar-15
.45 cal 1911 variant pistol

Things every respectable home should not be without.


55 posted on 09/13/2005 9:17:13 AM PDT by Praxeus
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To: cripplecreek
Open borders require laws that mesh.

Not necessarily. We can inform the guys coming into our country about our laws (with an easy-to-read pamphlet covering the basics, for example). The guys across the border can do likewise with a pamphlet of their own.

56 posted on 09/13/2005 3:05:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Hey, Cindy Sheehan, grow up!)
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To: billnaz

Damn, I really AM getting old! :(


57 posted on 09/14/2005 9:24:29 AM PDT by Tom Thumbs
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To: kildak

You mean Birdman Weapons Systems, "Unfriendly Products for an Unfriendly World"? Unfortunately, it looks like they're still offline.



Yup, that's the one. Isn't that the guy who mocked up the Homeboy Sight on the side of a Glock?

I think I remember that "product" and-or one of his other parodies getting a bunch of panties in a wad, some idiots thought it was for real, and I think it was shortly after that when he went off the air.

I can ALMOST think I remember reading somewhere (after the site disappeared) that "Birdman" was just a kid, running the website out of his parents house. Amazing, if true. The guy has amazing talent. If he IS just a kid, he'll do quite well for himself when he hits the work-world, probably making TV commercials, LOL!


58 posted on 09/14/2005 9:28:58 AM PDT by Tom Thumbs
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Yeah - take mine! My hand would still be wrapped around it and it would be empty.


59 posted on 09/14/2005 9:38:22 AM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: Tom Thumbs

My new CMP catalog should be here any day. The next step is to try to convince the Missus that I really, really need another Garand. I know how that will go over. :^ )


60 posted on 09/14/2005 11:11:07 AM PDT by billnaz (What part of "shall not be infringed" don't you understand?)
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