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Father and daughter's hike ended suddenly by grizzly
Seattle Post-intelligencer via HoustonChronicle.com ^
| Sept. 10, 2005
| CAROL SMITH
Posted on 09/11/2005 4:46:29 PM PDT by Archidamus
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To: agincourt1415
I took a long backpacking trip through the Smokies many years ago and never saw a bear. Then again, I had my noisy cousin along who never stopped talking...:)
To: Archidamus
To quote the Muldoon character (big game hunter) from Jurassic Park who later got eaten by a raptor..
"They should all be destroyed!"
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:30:31 PM PDT
by
Windsong
(FighterPilot)
To: Americanchild
Bet you wished you had, had a gun.
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:30:47 PM PDT
by
U S Army EOD
(LET ME KNOW WHERE HANOI JANE FONDA IS WHEN SHE TOURS)
To: Spktyr
Horsefeathers. People who shoot bears all the time for sport just shoot them through the lungs, or break their shoulder then the lung shot. A single round of 30-06 can put a bear down for good. 2-3 to get one in the right spot is safer, to be sure, but the single best hit is what does it.
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:30:58 PM PDT
by
JasonC
To: Wycowboy
Pardon my question, but have you ever personally used or witnessed the use of the "bear spray" to deter an angry Grizzly sow with cubs? Could you describe the circumstances and perhaps wind direction relative to the parties involved.
Curious because I'm planning my move to Idaho or Wyoming next spring and need to know the brand so that I can give away my .45-70 Gov. lever gun.
To: hophead
There is a special pepper spray for bears. It is a LARGE high powered can that sprays quite a distance. How well do you think it would work on humans, relative to "civilian" pepper spray? I have a daughter going to college where nasty critters are known to occassionally attack
To: U S Army EOD
To: JasonC
How far away are they from the bear?
To: TC Rider
LOL! Actually they make a bear strength pepper spray. The keepers of dangerous animals at zoos carry it "just in case".
Still, I'd want something a bit stronger anyway.
To: SauronOfMordor
Kind of amazing that we take it for granted these days that a university campus is a very likely place to get jumped/raped/murdered in.
To: JasonC
As for the story, they are both lucky to be alive, and the girl did exactly the wrong thing. You are much better off fighting like the dickens than lying still and hoping they will go away. If you aren't armed and are attacked, throw things (pain caused from farther away is much more likely to trigger "flight"), and hit it on the nose or in the eyes with a club if it gets close.Wrong! That might work for a black bear, but it is definitely the wrong approach for a grizzly in this instance. They surprised this bear, with the usual result.
To: Khurkris
Wild pigs is tricky creatures. Bore hunting in Afganistan, silverback with 8 inck tusks, .300 Win Mag.....4 solid shots during the charge, 3 more from the guide, a 100 yard charge ended about 6 feet away. Mean doesn't even begin to describe a beast that tuff.....
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:35:06 PM PDT
by
ScreamingFist
(Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
To: manwiththehands
"Going into bear country unarmed is dangerous and foolish."
Thanks to our gun hating politicians, if you're in a national park, you have no choice.
To: Khurkris
bore=boar, sheesh.....
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:35:55 PM PDT
by
ScreamingFist
(Peace through Stupidity. NRA)
To: spanalot
Lots of advice about pistols here..personally I carry a shotgun. Always at the ready.
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:35:56 PM PDT
by
Windsong
(FighterPilot)
To: dr_who_2
Uh... there are no grizzlies in the Santa Ynez Forest that I am aware of - and grizzly protection was not the intent. Did I say it was? If I were planning to hike in grizzly territory I would pack something to stop it, or at least slow it down - a Mini-30 with a couple 30-round clips would be my weapon of choice.
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:37:35 PM PDT
by
DTogo
(U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
To: dr_who_2
75 yards is typical. Sometimes 10 feet, sometimes 300 yards, but both are rare.
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:37:58 PM PDT
by
JasonC
To: JasonC
The question is what would give a guarantee of safety, not what would do the job.
Like I said, if the question is "what can give you a guarantee of safety against a bear attack," the answer is "a good hit with a big-game rifle, and sufficient distance."
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:38:20 PM PDT
by
Spktyr
(Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
To: Wycowboy
Make noise while hiking to avoid suprises of course, and it is obviously much better to be armed. But once the bear actually attacks, it is not going to break it off just to submissiveness, that way lies sorrow. Your chances are vastly better making a ruckus.
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posted on
09/11/2005 6:39:53 PM PDT
by
JasonC
To: pankot
Why not just kill all the grizzlies? What do they contribute to the world? And to hell with the wacko environmentalists.They make nice rugs...
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