Posted on 09/11/2005 7:51:28 AM PDT by new yorker 77
Final Topline Results (9/10/05)
N = 1,009 national adults, 18 and over
Margin of error: plus or minus 4
Interviewing dates: September 8-9, 2005
SAMPLE SIZE/MARGIN OF ERROR FOR REGISTERED VOTERS/
SUBGROUPS:
901 Registered voters (plus or minus 4)
SAMPLE SIZE/MARGIN OF ERROR FOR KEY SUBGROUPS:
300 Republicans (plus or minus 7)
334 Democrats (plus or minus 6)
331 Independents (plus or minus 6)
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793 Whites (plus or minus 4)
195 Non-whites (plus or minus 8)
I knew this poll was phony. Rasmussen shows the President's approval rating at 48% and newsweak shows it at 38%? That's a 10 point difference. And guess who got the 2004 election results right on the money- Rasmussen.
Newsweek had to do some serious manipulation to get that 38% percentage.
The bosses at Newsweek probably said to their pollsters,"48%? That's too high. Go back and churn that data until you come up with 38%! You hear me! We already have our stories written with that number!"
BS Poll
I am sure the poll is biased, but there is a cautionary note.
The bias would be the difference between the fraction of Republicans sampled and the fraction of Republicans in the general electorate. I don't know that number. However, if, hypothetically, only 29% of all registered voters were Republicans, then the poll would not be biased.
I did not quite understand your quote that I reference above. Does it mean that the number of republicans in the general electorate is 37%, and the poll is 8% undersampled?
If you want to cash in on the FOOL's GOLD of FAKE POLLS, be my guest.
When CBS/NY Slimes has Bush's Job Approval at 41% in July 2004 and 42% in September 2004, I laugh while libs celebrate.
It is the same reason that Newsweak and CBS and AP have Clinton's job approval at 65% in 1996 when he only gets 49.2% of the vote.
Republicans have won too many elections in the face of such clearly FAKE POLLS.
Do not let the glare of TRUTH get to you.
FAKE POLLS DO NOT TRANSLATE INTO REAL VOTERS!
Here we go:
A LESSON IN POLLING.
20% of 'national adults' are not registered voters.
60% of 'registered voters' voted in 2004.
37% of 'likely voters' who voted in 2004 were Republican.
37% of 'likely voters' who voted in 2004 were Democrat.
26% of 'likely voters' who voted in 2004 were Independent.
Here's some truth.
You may learn something.
Whisper: Liberal news organizations undersample Republicans and oversample Democrats. They also hide those who lean Democrat in the Independent column. And they poll non-voters.
These are FACTS.
Here's a FACT:
Bush 51% - Kerry 48%
Something Rasmussen polled consistantly from day one in 2004 while other polling firms gave Kerry a chance and had the GOP getting crushed in 2002 midterms.
TRUTH.
Reality Bites.
I think Election Results in the face of FAKE POLLS in 2002 and 2004 do it quite nicely.
Enjoy Turth.
FROM A LIBERAL WEBSITE:
But guess what? On Election Day, exit polls showed Republicans matching Democrats 37 percent to 37 percent. Pollsters who assumed that historical patterns would temper the Republican intensity in this year's surveys got it wrong. Those who bet on the data instead of the historical patterns got it right.
http://politics.slate.msn.com/id/2110860/
Also, keep in mind that the 'historical data' was based on liberal polling firms over the years.
These people picked Clinton to win bigger than he did and Reagan to win by less than he did.
Republicans have always been there.
All you have to do is poll them.
Enjoy TRUTH. IN CAPS.
Hey, did these "pollsters" learn the trade from zogby???
BASED ON REGISTERED VOTERS
Rep/Lean Rep -38
Dem/Lean Dem -50
Undecided/Other 12
I just scrolled down the yahoo finance page.
This is the TRUTH.
Newsweek oversamples DEMOCRATS OVER REPUBLICANS BY 12 POINTS.
Newsweek....lying *again*.
You seem to have either a reading or comprehension problem There have been multiple posts pointing out that the % of Rep voting in the last election was in the 37% range and yet you seem to be stuck on the 29% figure as being accurate.
Our side always complains about the polls. I have an idea;
How about we start to put out the word that Republicans are refusing to cooperate with the pollsters so the polls are useless. This will harm the ability of the MSM and left to use polls to further their story.
Also, it is probably true since the reason the exit polls were so off was that Bush supporters refused to be interviewed by the exit poll folks.
Most of us know or at least suspect that this is going on and has been going on for years or decades or always, but the point is that we know it and the sheep believe it or don't question it. I ask you, where are the Republican leaders and their outrage? I don't see 'em, I don't hear 'em - either they are too stupid to comprehend it or they don't care, and that just may be closer to the truth. I am beginining to despise the Republicans more than I hate the homo, drug ingesting liberal left. At least they have the balls to fight while the 'Pubs' retaliate with references to 'our misguided colleagues across the aisle'. Where the hell are all the men in this gutless society?
If 82% of Republicans support Bush, 20% of Democrats support Bush and 39% of Indpendents support Bush, it is immposible to get Bush's approval below 47% among 'national adults' and 50% among 'likely voters'.
People are polarized. This is true.
The only way to change that is to change minds.
People are not changing their minds.
Liberal news organizations are changing their polling samples.
It is as clear as day.
If I believed polls, Republicans would lose every election in a landslide and Bush would never be President.
In the era of three networks and the NY Times, that may have worked.
Today, it fails every time it's tried.
Maybe the Washington Post can get their foriegn corrspondents to go to Mississippi and Louisiana on a more regular basis.
Has anyone here been surveyed by MSM pollsters? I've been waiting for a call since I was 18. Apparently, it'll never happen!
Do not wait.
Do what tens of millions of Republicans do.
Work, take care of family and friends, and go to church.
Also, VOTE WITH YOUR REMOTE.
I do not watch CBS, NBS, ABS, MSNBS, CNBS, CNBS, CNNHBS, or PBS.
I do my part with PARENTAL BLOCK.
20% of Dems don't support him.\
But no matter. There is no question that more Dems were polled than GOP, but it is not likely this was done on purpose.
This was going on last year too. Only Rasmussen has his telephone robot keep calling until he gets the desired partisan mix (with that desire equal to the turnout at some previous election). It's largely why he was right.
The other pollsters don't do this, but they are still random because it is in their financial interest to be random. It may be a change in the electorate that causes this. It may mean that more Dems want to respond than GOP. This would be consistent with what was seen in exit polling. GOP voters don't want to be bothered to entertain in the media. They prefer to speak only where it counts -- at the polls.
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