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Bush Should Join Outrage Over Botched Hurricane Relief
Tampa Tribune ^ | September 11, 2005

Posted on 09/11/2005 1:57:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: W04Man
retired Air Force Capt. William Bissell told a reporter in Biloxi on Monday.

Hey Bill, why you only made Capt???? duh!

He most likely spent a significant portion of his military career as enlisted, before entering the officer corps.

41 posted on 09/11/2005 5:51:30 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I distinctly recall President Bush saying there needs to be an investigation and why. That's sober leadership. In a well-defined context, it would be fine to show some anger about specific actions. But no, he shouldn't surrender to this trend that every accident or disaster must be someone's fault.


42 posted on 09/11/2005 6:00:57 AM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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To: NutCrackerBoy
......But no, he shouldn't surrender to this trend that every accident or disaster must be someone's fault.

Well, by God a lot of this was a lot of someone's' fault.

A little honest outrage from the president after a VERY MAJOR disaster relief effort is bungled, doesn't make it a trend.

43 posted on 09/11/2005 6:08:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"medicating 250,000 people"

The MSM needs to be medicated.

44 posted on 09/11/2005 6:13:50 AM PDT by verity (Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Wrong-o ! Blanco and Nagin will be feted at the next Donk convention as "heroes."
45 posted on 09/11/2005 6:21:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The next time some numbskull, idiotic, news reading, so-called reporters ask George Bush why the help didn't come sooner, the President should turn the whole thing around on them. He should ask them how soon should they have been there? He should ask them how they would get all the people, equipment and life sustaining products there when there was still a storm was there. He should turn it around and ask all these idiots HOW they would have handled it. The President won't do that, of course, but I would love to see the looks on the faces of the press if that did happen. My tagline says it all!!


46 posted on 09/11/2005 6:25:07 AM PDT by Cricket24 ("We have met the enemy and it's the U.S. press (and the democrats)!")
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To: Cricket24
I argued with a liberal friend of mine, who won't admit that he's a liberal, that Nagin didn't do a good job getting the evacuation underway two days after the hurricane hit. My point was that Florida routinely evacuates the path of hurricanes BEFORE the storm. My friend told me that I didn't know what I was talking about and then got personal about it.
47 posted on 09/11/2005 6:53:07 AM PDT by Thebaddog (How's yer dogs?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I agree. I am increasingly frustrated by his lack of leadership during this. I am a big "W" fan and am sick of him taking the beatings for EVERYTHING and doing nothing about it. His poll numbers are lower than ever now as a result of Katrina. He had very little direct responsibility and those that did are going unscathed for the most part. What is wrong with him?!


48 posted on 09/11/2005 6:53:22 AM PDT by amutr22 (....not ANOTHER clinton!)
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To: Maumee
They already had billions over the years to fix the levees and more in the Bush admin than before, so exactly what did we get in NO? Ah, a casino, condos, fountains, a canal that had nothing to do with the levee projects. OUR tax dollars went to line the pockets of corrupt officials from the top down. I'm so sick of this blame the President game.

You can make any changes you want in FEMA but unless you address the cause it won't change. I've mentioned before FEMA handled 4 hurricanes in a row last year with NONE of this debacle, not small storms, 3 cat 4 and 1 cat 3. I've been told it doesn't matter. Well it does, because unless the real causes of this debacle are addressed it will happen again.

My final question to all those who believe in the constitution. Do you REALLY believe the President should have abrogated his oath of office and sent in Military forces over the objections of the legally elected head of the State? If you do, just which presidents will you support in doing that? All, some, only conservatives? In which incidents do you believe the President, any president should do this?

Did people die, yes people died. Is it terrible, yes it is terrible. Should something have been done, yes something should have been done. If you don't want it to happen again, then scream at congress to change the law! Just think how different that would have been had the President had the ability to take over on Wednesday when he was denied that right by Governor Blanco. BUT, when you change it think of the consequences of that change....a president with the right to send active duty military into the heart of this country for other than insurrection!

49 posted on 09/11/2005 7:04:58 AM PDT by Ruth C (learn to analyze rationally and extrapolate consequences ... you might become a conservative)
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To: Liberty Valance
lots of politics in this story. they forgot to mention that a cat. 4 hurricane hit just east of New Orleans...

LOL.

50 posted on 09/11/2005 7:12:36 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I believe, because of posse comitatus, that federal plans are limited to a state of insurrection. The implication is that there were no plans at the city and state levels so they were caught totally by surprise and what? Trying to blame the federal government (FEMA). Otherwise, only if the city and state governments were wiped out, which they were not, then the Federal plan would automatically go into effect.


51 posted on 09/11/2005 7:37:40 AM PDT by RedEyeJack
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To: W04Man

duh, it should be obvious that if he retired an air force Captain then he was a mustang with previous enlisted service or he was medically retired.


52 posted on 09/11/2005 8:50:53 AM PDT by fatrat
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To: backhoe
Too cool, backhoe!

I love it!!!!

53 posted on 09/11/2005 8:56:23 AM PDT by katya8
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Local response is first, since they know the ins and outs of the local terrain, etc. Trying to make the Feds be first responders would be a recipe for delay and inefficiency just due to logistical reasons alone, never mind politics.


54 posted on 09/11/2005 9:02:39 AM PDT by P.O.E. (.)
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To: katya8
Thanks- the graphic is from one of our own:

You Promised You'd Never Forget. You Promised.

55 posted on 09/11/2005 9:02:56 AM PDT by backhoe
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I agree, but how do you have a frank discussion with MSM screaming and yelping like a pack of whipped dogs?

Every time I think I've seen new lows from the liberals, they manage to sink even lower...


56 posted on 09/11/2005 9:13:33 AM PDT by TheSpottedOwl ("President Bush, start building that wall"!)
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To: longtermmemmory; Cincinatus' Wife
 
 

Has anyone heard of any report of anyone dying of dehydration or starvation in New Orleans? I might be wrong, but when I think of people starving I have mental images of bloated bellies, sunken faces, in short images such as you see in third world countries, and I haven't seen those images on any network or on even the most left wing blogs.

I just simply cannot imagine that people were dying from lack of food. I am personally a diabetic and I don't go anywhere without more medicine than I need, so I simply don't buy that people going to the Super Dome only took 2 days of supplies with them. It just isn't the way diabetics think regardless of your position on the class totem pole.

The normal mortality rate in this country is 1:113 which calculates to about 4 people per day dying anyway. When you figure in that the people not evacuated are from a population who's mortality rate must be higher than 1:113, the numbers dead to date don't seem unreasonable.

I'd really be interested in reading a coroner's report when this is all over to see how many drowned, died from lack of food/water or managed to get shot by someone that didn't like them to begin with. (I'm sure a lot of gangs were out popping each other because they knew it would be "free retribution."

I'm betting that 99% of deaths are the result of the immediate hurricane damage (drowning, hit in head by 2x4's and the like) and took place in the first 24 hours before help could arrive.

 

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57 posted on 09/11/2005 9:37:36 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; StoneColdTaxHater
President Bush ought to be visibly angry that storm victims in and around New Orleans continued to die in isolation days after the water stopped rising.

I disagree profoundly. The President is not a holographic projection of the feelings of the citizenry. He's not the nation's hand-holder- and head-patter-in-chief. In a properly functioning society, that's what parents are for.

On a more practical level, he doesn't (and shouldn't) have authority over elected officials at the local and state levels. He should certainly take action to remove or otherwise discipline Federal employees who have failed in their jobs, but at this point, there hasn't been time to make any but the most shallow evaluation of who has failed and who has not, among Federal officials.

The President is not our husband, our Daddy, our Pastor, or our Messiah. I categorically reject the idea that we are a nation of such infantile capacity that we "need" the President to emote for us as part of his job. That's where the Democrats want us to be, but if we fall for it, we deserve what we get. Bill Clinton, anyone? He'd be outraged, you d*mn betcha!

(Comments suggested by your fine rant yesterday, StoneCold.)

58 posted on 09/11/2005 9:38:40 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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You know I stand with you on what you say.

However, I don't see this as hand holding.

I see it as the President of the United States of America doing his job.

If it takes showing honest outrage that there were too many failures on too many levels to unlock this bureaucratic logjam, then so be it.

It's as plain as the nose on anyone's face, so it's better to talk about it. It gives people confidence in their leadership. It dispels myth, rumor and spin. It's called the bully pulpit and he needs to use it.


59 posted on 09/11/2005 10:30:00 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I guess we agree to disagree on this point. It happens :-).


60 posted on 09/11/2005 10:31:59 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Start the revolution - I'll bring the tea and muffins!)
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