Posted on 09/10/2005 10:53:03 PM PDT by churchillbuff
No you simpleton... For assuming that I don't. As I have stated already several times... OBL needs to be reduced to room temperature, but he is just one piece of the puzzle that needs to be destroyed and you know. You are playing a game here in order to advance your antiwar agenda and you know goddamn well what you are doing
I see no reason why we shouldn't be able to both capture him specifically and continue conducting the 9/11 War wherever it leads us, and yes, I think his capture will provide a palpable feeling of justice served, even if the war itself continues.
In the scheme of things - perspective - the overall operation in Iraq and elsewhere, do take precedence over the capture of a single entity, but I would think that we are capable of conducting the greater war while also conducting the lesser one, that is, the hunt and capture of the symbolic heads of the greater war.
Oh, I think we are in complete agreement. I am speaking of the perspective of the Useful Idiots.
Wait, not so fast. What were three dudes doing sharing a $30.00 hotel room? They couldn't afford a room each? Then when they get a $5.00 discount, they are too cheap to give the bellboy a decent tip? Something is still fishy.
Not one single person said don't go after OBL. Red herring.
'Cancelling' the common factors from line (4) to (5) means dividing by the factor (X-Y). Since X=Y, this is a division by 0, .......the results of which are undefined.
If you shared my desire to have Osama captured and executed, you wouldn't be attacking me for starting a thread that calls for just that. I'd expect to be attacked by a member of Al Quida, but not by someone on FR; the fact that you're attacking me for starting a thread advocating OSama's execution tells me all I need to know about you. This will be my last post to you. Anybody who attacks someone because he hates Osama isn't worth posting to.
It was Eaker, Humblegunner and Flyer I think so that splains a lot of it !.........:o)
I'm outta here ....gotta get a nap !
Stay safe !
Answer my questions then?
I guess I haven't been paying attention to them 'Useful Idiots' lately- after the whole Sheehan debacle, I just completely had my fill. I'm at the point were I'd rather stick my fingers into my ears and chant "la la la la la la".
Perhaps a new marketing campaign from Hormel, O'Spama-in-a-canna? Please forgive, I saw the infamous Monty Python Spam episode replayed this week. ;-)
Put a price of $1 billion on the heads of Osama bin Laden & obl wannabe Zarqawi in Iraq. Set up a $1 billion snitch fund. Take them out and sent them on their way to jihadi hell with 72 eunuchs. It would be worth every penny. Never forget 9-11 and what a jihadist cell might do to a major city with WMD. To clean up the terrorists we must drain the swamp, from the bottom up and top down.
Yeah, I thought I said that. Or, in other words, dividing by zero yields an infinite result. The twice infinity is the same as one infinity.
"Uh, it wasn't a liberal who vowed to get Osama "dead or alive"
You got that right! Liberals don't have the guts. That's why we should never ever trust a liberal with out security.
Mind if I jump in?
Seems to me that capturing or killing OBL would not make a vast difference to the conduct of the WoT. But he is a figurehead, a symbol to thousands of jihadis around the world who follow his ideology; Al Qaeda has metastized into a very loose collection of groups that share the same aims even if they don't share a chain of command with OBL at the top. After 9/11, I think OBL would remain a symbolic inspiration for jihadis whether he was alive or dead. Dead, he might loom even larger, especially if he was "martyred" by an American SF unit rather than dying of liver failure in a cave.
The problem is not that failing to find OBL so far has been a substantive blow to the prosecution of the WoT, the problem is one of political perception and shoring up domestic support for the WoT. That's where the importance of capturing and killing this bastard lies. It's partly our own fault - we needed a face for global jihadi terrorism and Bin Laden fit the bill. Perhaps we've over-inflated his true importance. But it doesn't matter whether we know that killing him ultimately makes little practical military difference - a domestic need for justice, vengence and a perceived and tangible victory in the WoT demands it.
Can we do that while pursuing the war in Iraq, with troop commitments in Afghanistan? Yes. Are we doing all that we can? Yes. I believe it's only a matter of time before OBL winds up on a slab, one way or another. Personally, I reckon he's somewhere in Pakistan. And I don't think Musharraf is in much of a hurry to find him.
Even if we flatten The Stans to "git" him, dead or alive.
I would only say, I'm not certain we are doing all we can- resulting from the political climate at home (US), which has been, IMO, poisoned by the liberal media and counter-culture, socialist, communist and liberal left.
(I use those terms in a descriptive sense, as opposed to simple name calling- FWIW.)
IOW, our political will has been weakened, and this weakening has (possibly, I'm not on the ground fighting, so I really don't know) diminished our ability to truly do all that we can do in this fight.
Pretty sad when it is now a "liberal" idea to avenge the deaths of 9/11 by catching and killing the man who made it happen.
We can only hope OBL was captured in last 10 months and is currently being treated to the blowtorch and pliers treatment.
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