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China - Clinton stays mum on Chinese Internet controls (while Yahoo-betrayed reporter rots in gulag)
Associated Press ^ | September 11, 2005

Posted on 09/10/2005 10:23:28 PM PDT by HAL9000

Former US president Bill Clinton urged China yesterday to recognize the urgency of the environmental threats to its growth, and to use the Internet as a tool to surmount them. But he remained silent on the risks faced by those who use the Internet as a forum for dissent.

"You will have to come to grips with significant challenges to your growth," Clinton said at an Internet conference in this eastern resort city, warning that the energy consumption required to keep China's economy growing at its recent rate of more than 9 percent is "unsustainable."

Clinton, the keynote speaker at a conference hosted by Yahoo's new Chinese partner, Alibaba.com, did not respond to questions from reporters about demands by human rights activists that he raise the case of a jailed Chinese journalist with his hosts.

Just days earlier, overseas-based human rights groups disclosed that Yahoo Holdings (Hong Kong) Ltd had provided e-mail account information that helped lead to journalist Shi Tao's conviction and 10-year prison sentence on state secrecy charges.

Other Chinese journalists have faced similar charges of violating vague security laws as communist leaders struggle to maintain control of information in the burgeoning Internet era.

Despite government information sharing requirements and other restrictions, Yahoo and its major rivals have been expanding their presence in China in hopes of reaching more of the country's fast-growing population of Internet users who now number more than 100 million.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: alibaba; china; clinton; humanrights; internet; journalist; reporter; shi; shitao; yahoo

1 posted on 09/10/2005 10:23:29 PM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000; TigerLikesRooster; AmericanInTokyo; All

Of course not Hal

DUH


2 posted on 09/10/2005 10:28:30 PM PDT by SevenofNine ("Not everybody in, it, for truth, justice, and the American way,"= Det Lennie Briscoe)
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To: HAL9000

Amazing how all out politicians tiptoe around China and its brand of Communism, but we rail at Cuba and NK and Syria, et. al. Question, how much money ARE we getting from China? It must outrageous.


3 posted on 09/10/2005 10:29:14 PM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Clock King

"Amazing how all out politicians tiptoe around China and its brand of Communism, but we rail at Cuba and NK and Syria, et. al."

Yes. Cuba, NK, and Syria are socialist and their human rights abuses are so extreme that nobody even pays attention anymore. China is no longer socialist (though not ideally capitalist either), and whether you want to believe it or not, DOES have higher human rights standards than the other 3 you listed as a result.


4 posted on 09/10/2005 10:33:41 PM PDT by Betaille ("And if the stars burn out there's only fire to blame" -Duran Duran)
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To: Betaille

Money now rules China...Communism still rules Cuba...and Syria...is just Syria. Oh, and lets not forget North Korea and its God-Master-King-the appointed one...the Kim.


5 posted on 09/10/2005 10:37:10 PM PDT by pepsionice
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To: HAL9000

alibubbba and the 40 Thieves :)


6 posted on 09/10/2005 10:38:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: HAL9000

Some secret, China. You have been shushing up Tiananmen Square in every possible way for years and everyone knows it.


7 posted on 09/10/2005 10:43:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: HAL9000
Yahoo turns over info on a man in china to the government, resulting in his imprisonment.

A soldiers family ask Yahoo to let them have the emails from their son killed in combat and Yahoo refuses.

Shame on Yahoo.

8 posted on 09/10/2005 11:14:39 PM PDT by wanderin
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To: HAL9000

This is the man who signed into law the 1997 S.936 Feinstein Amendment. What else could be expected, being mute is better than being a hypocrit.


9 posted on 09/10/2005 11:21:47 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: HAL9000

Typical Democrat Socialist. The very last thing of real importance is personal freedom.


The founding fathers would die to see what this party would make of their Constitution.


10 posted on 09/10/2005 11:30:07 PM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: HAL9000

Who cares what Clinton says anymore... when is the real president going to stand up to the Chinese?


11 posted on 09/11/2005 12:17:36 AM PDT by podkane
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To: Betaille
China is no longer socialist

Uh, China was never socialist... it is an extreme Communist dictatorship, with no freedom of speech, press, worship, right to trial.. right on down the bill of rights. The commies never had problems sitting down with the capitalists and talking cold, hard cash. They'll do business with us (remember Lenin's line - we'll sell them the rope by which they'll hang themselves). Well, they're selling us everything to the point where nothing is being made in the USA.

Or maybe we'll just keep an economy growing buying and selling each other's houses...

12 posted on 09/11/2005 12:24:44 AM PDT by podkane
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To: podkane
China is no longer socialist

Uh, China was never socialist... it is an extreme Communist dictatorship, with no freedom of speech, press, worship, right to trial.. right on down the bill of rights. The commies never had problems sitting down with the capitalists and talking cold, hard cash. They'll do business with us (remember Lenin's line - we'll sell them the rope by which they'll hang themselves). Well, they're selling us everything to the point where nothing is being made in the USA.

Or maybe we'll just keep an economy growing buying and selling each other's houses...

Well said !!

13 posted on 09/11/2005 12:28:40 AM PDT by Dustbunny (The only good terrorist is a dead terrorist)
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To: podkane

Yes, Well said! I wonder if Betaille understands that this forum will now be censored in China, simply because of what you said. Some of the 10's of thousands of Internet censors will block it. I guess I was thinking that the Democrats constantly scream that they are the party protecting rights. But they roll over (Republicans as well) when ever money enters the discussion. That was my real complaint.


14 posted on 09/11/2005 5:20:02 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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