Posted on 09/10/2005 1:14:21 AM PDT by Uncle Joe Cannon
Schwarzenegger's Promised Gay Marriage Veto Gets Lukewarm Response
Saturday, September 10, 2005
By Kelley Beaucar Vlahos
WASHINGTON — Though California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (search) has promised to veto a bill by the Assembly that would permit gay marriage because he says it goes against the will of the state's people.
But some groups aren't happy to hear that while many Republicans have been arguing that justices around the country have been engaging in judicial activism as they interpret the Constitution in ways that allow gay marraige, the governor prefers that the courts handle the issue.
"It's not an issue for the courts — he's inviting judicial activism and that's what we're opposed to," said Rich Ackerman, spokesman for the Pro-Family Legal Center, which is fighting gay marriage efforts in California.
"I've never heard of any Republican who's actually looking to the courts to decide," said Peter LaBarbera, head of Protect Marriage Illinois, which is trying to get a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage in Illinois. He said he was disappointed with Schwarzenegger's comments. "That's sort of a naïve view, or just passing the buck," he added.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Arnold really approves of gay marriage. He is playing his political cards and putting the ball in the other 'court'. He is safe that way. And we all know what the California Courts will do. That is why an amendment is needed.
What will the California courts do? I'd bet big money that the California Supreme Court will uphold Prop 22.
Unreal. A ballot measure in California voted on BY THE PEOPLE effectively banned gay marriage in California by a 2 to 1 vote. The Government has just attempted to overrule the will of the people, hand in hand with the courts.
Folks, check it out. Google has BURIED any news items on the California Gay Marriage Ban. It's not ANYWHERE...You won't find anything with a direct search.
I really had to dig to find an article.
California Bans Same-Sex Marriage.
Despite nearly universal opposition by prominent politicians, media pundits and even Hollywood celebrities, California voters overwhelmingly approved by almost two-to-one a ballot measure that would bar recognizing same-sex marriages in the state, even if legally performed elsewhere.
Proposition 22, the so-called Knight Initiative because it was written by state Sen. Pete Knight, showed almost two-to-one voter approval both in exiting polling and as partial ballot counting continued late into the night in the March 7 primary election.
GAY GESTAPOS ARE ON THE MARCH!!! YOU WILL BE ASSIMILATED...
Jesus said: "And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore, they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder." -from THE BIBLE: Matthew 19:4-6
"What will the California courts do? I'd bet big money that the California Supreme Court will uphold Prop 22."
I wouldn't be willing to bet a dime on that. By occasionally checking the site http://www.savecalifornia.com ,I've kept track of the California Court rulings that have gone against what the majority of Californians believe. When I was tracking the issues I noticed that there were only two culturally conservatives on the court...and one is no longer there (Janice Rogers Brown). I don't know who replace Brown on the court, but since Schwarzenegger is culturally liberal I can just imagine.
I did notice that California was among the only 3 states that had more than a thousand people who signed the letter regarding religious issues at:
http://www.thisiswhatibelieve.com
there's a link at the site to view the signature count by state and California has over 2000 signers so far.
(the text of the main page at the above link:
Today in America, our elected officials are more and more straying from the Traditional Values we as Christians believe in. We feel this is not representative of the majority in America.
Our elected officials were elected to office for the purpose of representing us, the people.
The purpose of this project is to show them that they have forgotten us, and to remind them of our Values.
We ask that you sign our letter, stating your agreement with Traditional Values, based upon biblical foundations, upon the principles outlined in the Declaration of Independence, our Constitution, the writings of the Founding Fathers, and upon the writings of great political and Christian thinkers throughout the ages.
This letter will be printed out and delivered to all of our federal and state elected officials with all signatures attached.
Please read, sign and recommend this letter.
I'm on the phone yesterday with a businessman in Cincinnati and one of the first things he says, "I hear Arnold's going to veto gay marriage."
CA is taking a collective sigh of relief.
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Governor Schwarzenegger to Veto Same Sex Marriage Bill
Sacramento – Yesterday Governor Schwarzenegger announced his intentions to veto AB 849 (Leno, D- San Francisco), a bill that would legalize same-sex marriage in the state of California. On Tuesday, California became the first legislature in the nation to approve homosexual marriage without judicial intervention. “On behalf of families across the state of California, Capitol Resource Institute wishes to express its gratitude to the governor for standing up for, not only the voters of California, but also for the timeless institution of marriage,” said Karen England of CRI.
“Marriage is the foundation of the family and same-sex marriage discounts the well- established truth that children need both a mom and a dad.”
Proposition 22, passed overwhelmingly by California voters a mere five years ago, states: “Only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.”
The author of AB 849, Assemblyman Leno, alleges that Prop. 22 only applies to out-of-state marriages and that’s why it can be disregarded.
“It is disingenuous to say that the people are opposed to ‘imported’ same-sex marriage but not ‘homegrown’ same-sex marriage,” said England.
“The people made their voice loud and clear that marriage is between one man and one woman,” said England. “It’s the height of arrogance for Assemblyman Leno, along with a majority of the legislature, to say that’s not what the people meant when they voted for Prop. 22.”
“Although marriage will be protected this time around, because of Schwarzenegger’s veto, there is an urgent need for a constitutional amendment defining marriage between one man and one woman,” said England. “That’s why Capitol Resource Institute has joined a coalition, along with Focus on the Family, Alliance Defense Fund, Family Research Council, California Family Alliance and others, to bring an initiative to California voters to protect marriage.” end press release.
Until we put an end to the gerrymandered districts in this state, these nuts will sit on their duffs and write one screwball bill after another.
I think Arnold will veto the bill, however his statements made it clear that he wants the courts to decide. The California court had two known cultural conservatives when Janice Rogers Brown was still there.
I wouldn't trust Arnold to pick the type of judges that would uphold the will of Californians on that issue.
If there is a way that we can get it written into the state constitution that would be great, but if our legislature has to be involved it won't happen.
Even though the majority of Californians may disagree with what their legislature is doing, no legislative seats changed parties in the last election.
California is controlled by the overpopulated counties of Los Angeles and San Francisco. Based on the fact that those counties even voted against the recall of Gray Davis when his approval rating was down to 24%, I think most of them just habitually vote for any Democrat.
The reason reapportionment is so important to the future of this state. We can't effect change in this sorry state of affairs as long as there is no challenge, no opposition, no voice for change.
Hmmm... that was not my experience. Approx 700 articles on just the first page.
In your later comment (#12) you back off a little and amend your gripe to, "There's no direct reference that the people of CA voted to create the ban in the first place by a 2 to 1 vote." May I again point you to a Google link? This one is specifically on Prop 22. And, again, there are many, many recent articles reporting what you claim Google has repressed.
Let me say once more, I am not defending Google. I know they tilt to the left. But your claims are just not true.
Yeah, I guess it's just second nature to expect liberal bias from any source of media.
And shame on the CA congress and senate for attempting to by pass the people and let this perversion become legitimate.
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