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CA: Arnold intends to seek new term - Formal announcement expected soon
Oakland Tribune ^ | 09/09/2005 | Steve Geissinger

Posted on 09/09/2005 1:25:39 PM PDT by calcowgirl

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To: Czar

AS..has his shortcomings..but he is still way ahead
of the tax and spend Democrats who have very little
to offer. The money being spent by the Teachers
Union is an all out effort is to defeat Arnold...and
then they turn around and clamor for more money as
they continue their top heavy, agenda....of the lazy
tenured teachers who all vote Democrat..no matter
what..why? Increase the taxes, as out schools are
broke???? PS: Another main goal...Kill Prop. 13...
as the beneficiaries of tax reduction are the ones
voting Republican...Jake


41 posted on 09/10/2005 9:32:21 AM PDT by sanjacjake
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To: calcowgirl

Hagel was good until he caught "Presidential Fever". Even so, he has ALWAYS voted with the President. Can your Senators say the same?


42 posted on 09/10/2005 9:48:50 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: SierraWasp

Candidates Vote Vote %
Republican Schwarzenegger 3,744,132 49%
Democrat Bustamante 2,434,484 32%
Republican McClintock 1,026,704 13%

These are the results. No apologies. Suppoting someone who only got 13% of the vote is a sure way to lose. Just like California Republicans do.


43 posted on 09/10/2005 9:54:42 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: newzjunkey

Newsflash: I support redistricting 100%. Since Arnold didn't campaign for any Republican challengers we will never know what effect it may have had and don't forget this was while he was still at the height of his popularity.

we do know where his don't make waves with the demonrats policy has gotten him.

God nforbid Lockyer should become Gov., but I would like to see Big A stop acting like a girlie-man and take off the gloves like he promised.


44 posted on 09/10/2005 10:31:07 AM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: sanjacjake
Good points, and all well understood.

Unfortunately, more and more, Arnold's actions and omissions are indicating there isn't all that much difference between a RINO and Gray Davis.

A great many of us are going to have a very difficult time deciding if we want to--one more time--vote for the "least worst". Especially with so much doubt on the table as to whether Arnold is in fact the "least worst".

45 posted on 09/10/2005 10:33:43 AM PDT by Czar (StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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To: calcowgirl

Fact of the matter is Arnold should have stayed out of the race and just let McClintock win!


46 posted on 09/10/2005 10:39:50 AM PDT by gc4nra ( this tag line protected by Kimber and the First Amendment (I voted for McClintock))
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To: calcowgirl

What would the world be without dreamers. :-? LOL

Ahoy FRom Juneau..

:)


47 posted on 09/10/2005 2:38:13 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: NormsRevenge; calcowgirl; Carry_Okie
Good grief, Norm!!! While you're away on that inside passage cruise... We've been hit with another swarm of Schwartzenrenegger Swooners pumping out thier redundant bile toward conservative potential in CA... They are agin it!!!

They love the miserable moderate/left of center Repellican to death and are praying he hasn't ruined his prospects to continue suffocating conservatism in CA Republican politics!!!

So hurry back from the Crapitol of Alaska, to the Crapitol of Cauleeforneeah as the manure movers job is never done within these state crapitols!!!

Make those slaves in the galley row harder! Beat the drum faster!! I wanna see a wake big enough to upset the Sierra Flub!!! (maybe you could even ski behind it)

48 posted on 09/10/2005 5:31:20 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: jim_trent

Ok, if ya wanna stay stuck on stupid, I guess I can't stop ya... You're too determined for me to even care about!!! Phhhht!!!


49 posted on 09/10/2005 5:59:21 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: jim_trent
Candidate Votes Pct.  Spent ($MM)
Steve Westly Moderate Democrat 45.4 $10.6
Tom McClintock Conservative Republican   45.1 $2.0
 
Result? The conservative got no support from the GOP,
was outspent 5:1 by a moderate Democrat,
and nearly won anyway.
 
Candidate Votes Vote Pct.  Spent ($MM)
Cruz M. Bustamante Leftist Democrat 49.5 $4.6
Bruce Mc Pherson Moderate Republican 41.8 $2.8
 
Result? The “moderate” Republican darling of the GOP got lots of support,
was outspent only 1.6:1 by an extreme leftist with no credibility,
the "electable" GOP "moderate" LOST by a margin NINE TIMES larger than the unsupported conservative in the same election.

So much for "moderates are more electable in California."

Sources: vote2002.ss.ca.gov
SOS Campaign Finance Page

Despite having the second lowest Republican registration of any senate Republican seat up for election this year, McClintock's campaign ran more than 19 points ahead of party registration - the largest margin of any senate Republican:

Candidate Party Votes Percent
* Tom McClintock Republican 226,225 61.0%
Paul Joseph Graber Democratic 144,800 39.0%

Here is the last USA Today/CNN/GALLUP poll before the recall.

"6. If the choice were between Cruz Bustamante, the Democrat and Tom McClintock, the Republican, who would you be more likely to vote for: Cruz Bustamante or Tom McClintock?"

September 25-27
Registered Voters

McClintock 49%
Bustamante 42%

Probable Voters

McClintock 56%
Bustamante 37%

So California won't vote conservative? Consider the spate of recent ballot propositions:

Prop 227 English only education in public schools Passed
Prop 209 No more affirmative action in State hiring or education Passed
Prop 22 Heterosexual marriage only Passed
Prop 187 No benefits for illegal aliens Passed

Simon lost to Davis by only 325,000 votes after the most incompetent campaign in history and while being stabbed in the back by his own Party.

The point is this: the argument that only a moderate can win in California is pure crap. The real problem is the the CAGOP leadership won't back conservative candidates. So for a conservative to back a moderate in favor of a conservative is to feed the game and preclude conservatives from holding office.

That means you.

50 posted on 09/10/2005 6:11:15 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie
The real problem is that the CAGOP leadership won't back conservative candidates.

Indisputable.

51 posted on 09/10/2005 6:48:52 PM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady
A leadership emplaced by Karl Rove I might add.
52 posted on 09/10/2005 7:51:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: Carry_Okie

If this were any other state,
conservatives would be demanding, and getting, support for issues which so conveniently get swept under the rug in the name of 'progress' here in CA.

I fell for it completely, thinking California's different and unique and we must treat issues with kid gloves and settle for crumbs.

But no more. I'm hungry for substance and I don't care about charisma.


53 posted on 09/10/2005 8:31:38 PM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady; calcowgirl
There is precious little substance to be had.

Too many GOP positions on issues such as regulation amount to no more than Democrat-lite, simply because they lack deep understanding of how free enterprise, private property, faith, charity, and the power of family really work. Worse, even if they do understand those principles, few have the courage to go after the disasters the Democrats have made.

As you know, I specialize in environmental issues. You would be shocked to see the degree of defeatism within the Republican Party on that front. IMO, it is in part because they secretly believe that regulation is a necessary evil and have no comprehension of the scope and depth of the environmental problems regulatory agencies have festered. Try to tell them that, lacking authority, and anything I say falls on deaf ears. It's maddening.

I have come to the conclusion that the only thing to do is to construct that authority, article by article, with video tours of my property if necessary. I would truly have preferred to have stayed a relatively anonymous teacher as I do not anticipate the impact upon my family with any relish. Time grows too short for that path any longer as the bricks of our prison build ever higher and Hillary looking like she'll get the keys to the gate unless something is done, and soon.

54 posted on 09/10/2005 9:44:40 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: calcowgirl

To everyone:

I try to learn from winners, not losers. When conservatives start winning in California, they will have something to teach others. Now, all they can do is teach how to lose. I look at results, not words. When you start winning, check back.


55 posted on 09/11/2005 8:37:56 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent

It's not easy to win on a platform of self-reliance in a state where dependence on anything but government is considered a sin.

Winning in CA is an individual demonstration.
When enough individuals demonstrate genuine success, it will resonate.


56 posted on 09/11/2005 2:54:01 PM PDT by b9
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To: Carry_Okie

Fabulous post.
You're very brave.
It's one thing to post anonymously, but you've taken that step beyond to PROVE what works.

And bless your family for their support.


57 posted on 09/11/2005 2:59:02 PM PDT by b9
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To: doodlelady; Carry_Okie; calcowgirl; NormsRevenge
And let me add a resounding "Amen!" to that blessing of Mark's family support system!!!

I'm still sticken my neck out, predictin that A.S. will pull out at the last second, further smashing a crippled CA GOP into the ground with no Gubernatorial candidate for the Primary!!! (wonder what the rationalizations will be for premature stratergery that was such high risk?)

Maria just said today that she's dying to git back into "journalism!" I think she hates Sacramento, aka "the Cow Town!"

58 posted on 09/13/2005 5:07:27 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

Go for it, dude.

Stop listening to the paid political advisors and hacks, stand up for the little guy and do what you were sent to Sacto to do.

Get Prop. 77 passed and your second term will kick ass.


59 posted on 09/13/2005 5:11:50 PM PDT by StoneColdGOP ("The Republican Party is the France of politics" - Laz)
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To: jim_trent; calcowgirl

Then you won't have a problem telling us what wonderful state you're writing from.... since these facts will all check out.


60 posted on 09/15/2005 11:51:51 AM PDT by Hi Heels (Guns kill and cause crime? Dang, mine must be malfunctioning....)
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