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We Shut Down the Bridge
Washington Times & UPI via NRO ^ | Sep. 9, 2005 | Shaun Waterman

Posted on 09/09/2005 11:06:37 AM PDT by hipaatwo

Think local officials are less to blame for deaths in New Orleans than federal officials? In the most jaw-dropping story of the week, UPI has the police chief of Gretna, Louisiana, admitting that he closed off one of the major arteries out of New Orleans on Monday, before the storm hit:

"We shut down the bridge," Arthur Lawson, chief of the City of Gretna Police Department, confirmed to United Press International, adding that his jurisdiction had been "a closed and secure location" since before the storm hit.

"All our people had evacuated and we locked the city down," he said. The bridge in question -- the Crescent City Connection -- is the major artery heading west out of New Orleans across the Mississippi River.


He added that the small town, which he called "a bedroom community" for the city of New Orleans, would have been overwhelmed by the influx. "There was no food, water or shelter" in Gretna City, Lawson said. "We did not have the wherewithal to deal with these people. If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; govwatch; gretna; hurricanekatrina; incompetence; katrina; katrinafailures; leftistcrap; neworleans; nimby; selfdefense; suburbanvictims; urbanbarbarians; yellowsnowdog
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To: Petronski

The Cresent City Connector is identified as the evacuation route to the west by the City of New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan which was written in conjunction with the Louisiana Office of Emergency Preparedness.


161 posted on 09/09/2005 12:03:15 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: Tarpon
"There was no food, water or shelter" in Gretna City, Lawson said. "We did not have the wherewithal to deal with these people. If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged."

The reason the bridge was shut down is right there.

162 posted on 09/09/2005 12:03:53 PM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Petronski

The Cresent City Connector is identified as the evacuation route to the west by the City of New Orleans Comprehensive Emergency Management Plan which was written in conjunction with the Louisiana Office of Emergency Preparedness.


163 posted on 09/09/2005 12:04:42 PM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: daybreakcoming

"Was the bridge itself federal, state, or parish? Who owns it? "




It doesn't really matter. It's a public roadway. All members of the public may use it, especially in an emergency. Here in the USA, we have freedom to travel as we wish on the public roadway.

This idiot blocked an exit route. Too bad the National Guard wasn't available to explain to the nice man that he was going to have to move his officers off the bridge and let the folks from NO pass.


164 posted on 09/09/2005 12:05:13 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: NavySEAL F-16

Sent!


165 posted on 09/09/2005 12:05:46 PM PDT by sono
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To: dirtboy
They had run out. READ THE EYEWITNESS REPORTS. A cop trapped in the Convention Center said people were DYING of DEHYDRATION.

According to interviews I saw from the Superdome in that time frame they had water but were having sanitation problems.

I vividly remember an interview I saw on Thursday evening with a woman who was complaining that there was only water to drink and that the MREs tasted bad and weren't "proper" food.

Plus, I know how the media and the victim industry love to exaggerate.

Quite frankly, I believe that if anyone died of dehydration in the Superdome, they actually died of neglect, because such people were probably elderly people who could not walk and whose need for help was ignored by those around them.

I would also suspect that there were thugs hoarding food and water that was supposed to be distributed equitably.

166 posted on 09/09/2005 12:06:10 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: Boatlawyer

My sentiments exactly. They paid him to do a job. Its not his fault that others did not do their jobs.

I love all these folks quibbling about the stupid bridge.

In times of trouble, when God reaches down and pulls the plug on your technology and you have to get back to basics, you have to get back to basics. And sometimes the choices are hard.

The chief did what was right for him and his in a bad situation.


167 posted on 09/09/2005 12:06:59 PM PDT by Al Gator (Remember to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: IronMan04
Dense foot traffic weighs more than even dense vehicle traffic. That is why the Brooklyn Bridge swayed during the blackout evacuation.

We are not talking dense foot traffic. We are talking a few groups at a time that were not allowed to leave.

You are full of it.

Oh, and fifty square feet is a five by ten space. You are conjecturing that on a large bridge, fifty people or so in a scattered movement would pack themselves into a five by ten space, or about the floor space of two elevators.

I don't think so. More bullcrap from you.

168 posted on 09/09/2005 12:07:04 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: IronMan04
Consider this, a car has a footprint of around 45-50 square feet while a person has a footprint of around one square foot and weighs 150 pounds.

Huh? 45-50 sq ft? 10-12 sq ft per tire? I'd say you're off by a factor of five, at least.

OTOH, I could see how walking would be heavier than the same weight on a vehicle in part because the body is falling with each step, not rolling on a tire.

169 posted on 09/09/2005 12:07:39 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: RGSpincich

""There was no food, water or shelter" in Gretna City, Lawson said. "We did not have the wherewithal to deal with these people. If we had opened the bridge, our city would have looked like New Orleans does now: looted, burned and pillaged." "




Nothing more to be said. The Police Chief exceeded his authority. He's meat.


170 posted on 09/09/2005 12:08:02 PM PDT by MineralMan
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To: wideawake
According to interviews I saw from the Superdome in that time frame they had water but were having sanitation problems.

And the food and water ran out. Once again, that's from a Louisiana cop who was THERE.

And it would have helped sanitation issues if people COULD HAVE FRIGGIN' LEFT.

171 posted on 09/09/2005 12:08:14 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: Petronski
OTOH, I could see how walking would be heavier than the same weight on a vehicle in part because the body is falling with each step, not rolling on a tire.

They were turning back small groups. This wasn't about bridge safety.

172 posted on 09/09/2005 12:09:02 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: MineralMan

Yep. Q.E.D.


173 posted on 09/09/2005 12:09:09 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Fred Hampton

Welcome to Free Republic.


175 posted on 09/09/2005 12:09:46 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: NavySEAL F-16
This should be FRONT PAGE on Drudge!!

No, it shouldn't. He did the right thing.

176 posted on 09/09/2005 12:10:05 PM PDT by Ronzo (Help restore decency in Ameria...hug a Democrat.)
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To: Petronski
I find that very hard to believe.

He's spinning because he has nothing else. This was indefensible given the dire circumstances.

177 posted on 09/09/2005 12:10:16 PM PDT by dirtboy (Drool overflowed my buffer...)
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To: MineralMan

I know all that. I asked expecting an answer as to who has jurisdiction over the bridge. You obviously have an answer for others' arguments but evidently do not have the actual answer for my question. thank you.


178 posted on 09/09/2005 12:10:25 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: dirtboy

Agreed.


That bridge could have handled, at the very least, the volume of a single-file stream of people walking breakstep. Of course, they wouldn't have to walk single-file, but at the very least, that kind of volume could have made it out.


179 posted on 09/09/2005 12:10:45 PM PDT by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Al Gator
I love all these folks quibbling about the stupid bridge.
In times of trouble, when God reaches down and pulls the plug on your technology and you have to get back to basics, you have to get back to basics. And sometimes the choices are hard.


So is it the welfare mentality that kept them there or is it the authorities? And if it is the authorities, you are ok with that???
180 posted on 09/09/2005 12:11:13 PM PDT by mosquitobite
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