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1 posted on 09/08/2005 8:01:21 AM PDT by kellynla
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To: kellynla

Looks like it's back up to 64.40.


2 posted on 09/08/2005 8:03:26 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever
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Bush's Fault.


3 posted on 09/08/2005 8:03:26 AM PDT by JimWforBush (Alcohol - For the best times you'll never remember)
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Be good to see the bubble burst. Have to wait and see.


4 posted on 09/08/2005 8:03:33 AM PDT by atomicpossum (Replies should be as pedantic as possible. I love that so much.)
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Liberals and wingnuts hardest hit...


5 posted on 09/08/2005 8:04:05 AM PDT by Doohickey (If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice...I will choose freewill.)
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To: kellynla

Check again --- it went right back up a few minutes later.


7 posted on 09/08/2005 8:05:49 AM PDT by shuckmaster
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Thought you might find this interesting after our short discussion about shorting oil futures.


9 posted on 09/08/2005 8:08:14 AM PDT by Sthitch
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To: kellynla

WE'RE DOOMED!

Falling gas prices will spike more SUV sales and more car travel, increasing greenhouse gases and global warming, heating the oceans and melting the ice caps, causing more hurricances and floods, and killing millions of poor innocent people because George Bush wants to destroy the world!


11 posted on 09/08/2005 8:08:37 AM PDT by Thrusher (Remember the Mog.)
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Let's see - pipelines were offline, therefore reducing the demand from storage. Refineries were offline, reducing the demand from storage. Platforms were offline, reducing the filling of storage. Refineries are coming back on line. Pipelines are back on line. Oil platforms still offline. Check with me after the next storage numbers come out...


13 posted on 09/08/2005 8:10:26 AM PDT by green iguana
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NY Mercantile Exchange current quotes (10:45 ET)

Crude Oil - 63.50
Gasoline - 1.99

Heading in the right direction.

16 posted on 09/08/2005 8:12:40 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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Oil futures fell below $64 a barrel Thursday ...

And RATS are on a suicide watch.

17 posted on 09/08/2005 8:13:08 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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Heading down? Can I get a refund then?


22 posted on 09/08/2005 8:15:13 AM PDT by Dazedcat
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Those +$3/gal prices ought to be tumbling any time now.

Yep, any time.

Yea, right.


26 posted on 09/08/2005 8:23:29 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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People are driving less. I know this, that if my wife and I talk about driving less or making less trips, then that probably means that every family in the US is having the same conversation, and at least 75% of them will make slight changes to their driving habit.
Slight changes add up to a noticible decrease in demand.

Price target according to my crystal ball is 2.50 a gallon by October.


27 posted on 09/08/2005 8:23:39 AM PDT by NormB (Yes, but watch your cookies!!)
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Who cares how much crude they pump? We can only refine so much. If Bush wanted to be bold, he would issue an EO to suspend environmental regs on refinery construction and related industries for 6 years, in order to get new refineries online and under construction. The goal 12 new refineries--that's 2 per year.


29 posted on 09/08/2005 8:25:35 AM PDT by BlackjackPershing (Laissez les bon temps roulez)
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Something to do with a rather sharp reduction in commuter traffic along and through the Gulf Coast?
30 posted on 09/08/2005 8:29:31 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are REALLY stupid.)
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Could be a phoney memo----but how many people would believe this?

WND Exclusive BLACK-GOLD BLUES Big Oil's secret strategy to gush profits exposed Memos purportedly show refiners sought to limit ops to spike price of gasoline Posted: September 8, 2005 1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Joe Kovacs © 2005 WorldNetDaily.com

A consumer group is publicizing a series of memos marked "highly confidential" alleging major oil companies – including Mobil, Chevron and Texaco – intentionally limited their refining capacity in order to raise gasoline prices and increase profits. Map shows path of Hurricane Katrina. Oil rigs are marked in black, with refineries as colored barrels (courtesy iMap Data Inc.) The revelation comes as Americans have seen a major spike in prices at the pump in the immediate aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, while "the oil industry blames environmental regulation for limiting number of U.S. refineries." The Foundation for Taxpayer and Consumer Rights released three memos that purportedly demonstrate a nationwide effort by the American Petroleum Institute to encourage major refiners to close refineries in the 1990s. "Large oil companies have for a decade artificially shorted the gasoline market to drive up prices," said Jamie Court, president of the FTCR, who successfully fought to keep Shell Oil from needlessly closing its Bakersfield, Calif., refinery this year. "Oil companies know they can make more money by making less gasoline. Katrina should be a wakeup call to America that the refiners profit widely when they keep the system running on empty." The internal memoranda themselves have been made public before, in a 2001 investigative report by Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore., who this week said the primary reason for sky-high prices is that "the government isn't in the consumer-protection business anymore." Much of U.S. paying at least $3 per gallon in wake of Hurricane Katrina The memo from Chevron states: "A senior energy analyst at the recent API convention warned that if the U.S. petroleum industry doesn't reduce its refining capacity it will never see any substantial increase in refinery margins. ... However, refining utilization has been rising, sustaining high levels of operations, thereby keeping prices low." It continued to discuss how major refiners were shutting down their refineries. The Texaco memo disclosed how the industry believed in the mid-1990s that "the most critical factor facing the refining industry on the West Coast is the surplus of refining capacity, and the surplus gasoline production capacity. (The same situation exists for the entire U.S. refining industry.) Supply significantly exceeds demand year-round. This results in very poor refinery margins and very poor refinery financial results. Significant events need to occur to assist in reducing supplies and/or increasing the demand for gasoline. One example of a significant event would be the elimination of mandates for oxygenate addition to gasoline. Given a choice, oxygenate usage would go down, and gasoline supplies would go down accordingly. (Much effort is being exerted to see this happen in the Pacific Northwest.)" The state of Washington subsequently did away with its ethanol mandate, requiring greater quantities of refined fuel to fill the gasoline volume occupied by ethanol. FTRC says the Mobil memorandum from 1996 evinces the company's successful plan to keep smaller refiner Powerine from reopening its California refinery. It notes much of the hardships created by California's refinery rules came at the urging of the major oil companies, not the environmental groups blamed by the industry. The other alternative plan discussed in the event Powerine did open the refinery was "... buying all their avails and marketing it ourselves" to insure the lower price fuel didn't get into the market. Meanwhile, the API is urging Americans to adjust their driving habits to consume less fuel. "We know that Hurricane Katrina's effects on our industry are having a nationwide impact through skyrocketing prices for gasoline and other fuels," API president Red Cavaney told the House Energy and Commerce Committee yesterday. But he warned, "Congress should not repeat the mistakes of some past energy policies by trampling the structures of the free marketplace by imposing new controls, allocation schemes, or other obstacles, which will only serve to make a bad situation much worse." U.S. refineries were thrust into the spotlight after Hurricane Katrina plowed through the Gulf of Mexico last week, impacting operations for at least four refineries. "Those four that appear to have suffered major damage, it will be a matter of months [for repairs]," said Guy Caruso, head of the U.S. Energy Information Administration. Bob Slaughter, president of the National Petrochemical & Refiners Association, is hoping the refineries can return to service as soon as possible, but he told the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee, "Employee safety and overall safe startup and operation concerns are paramount. Significant flooding and damage still affects some facilities. "However, some refiners with operating facilities have indicated that they will be able to ramp up production from currently reduced levels at refineries near the affected areas, which should have a positive impact on product supplies." Regarding reports of price gouging, Slaughter said, "Each alleged situation should be thoroughly investigated by the appropriate state and federal authorities and prosecuted when the law has been broken." According to the Minerals Management Service, oil output from the Gulf of Mexico has been cut by 861,000 barrels per day, a 57 percent reduction from before Katrina's arrival Aug. 29. If you'd like to sound off on this issue, please take part in the WorldNetDaily poll. Related offer: $5 gas has arrived! Now what? Related story: Truckers strike imminent? If you would like to help victims of Hurricane Katrina, here are some of the best ways to do so. Joe Kovacs is executive news editor for WorldNetDaily.com.

49 posted on 09/08/2005 8:54:52 AM PDT by Radioactive (I'm on the radio..so I'm radioactive)
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We're DOOMED
50 posted on 09/08/2005 8:55:03 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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Rush kept saying .. "there is no shortage of oil" .. the shortage will be in the refining of the oil into gas.

Well .. I have an idea .. why don't they take all those displaced people out of N.O. and pay them wages and give them housing - to relocate where several refineries can be built. Subsidizing the cost to the builders - will help the builders, and help the people at the same time.

FDR thought it was a great idea .. and I believe we built Hoover Dam that way - and it's still standing.

We need the refineries - the people need jobs - the people need to have some hope for their future - and we need to be able to refine more oil. Then .. when a disrepution happens in one part of the country .. the other refineries will take up the slack.

I know .. this is too logical.


54 posted on 09/08/2005 9:05:50 AM PDT by CyberAnt (America has the greatest military on the face of the earth.)
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The free market rocks....
This is just a great lesson in basic economics. Higher prices ration supply, supply increases because the sellers have more incentive to to bring in more supply, and demand is reduced.
We don't need no stinkin govt intervention...


57 posted on 09/08/2005 9:07:37 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (The Democrat party is the official party of the Morlocks.)
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More gouging, isn't it, FReepers?

I am addressing those that don't believe in markets and capitalism.

58 posted on 09/08/2005 9:08:10 AM PDT by ExitPurgamentum
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