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Military says "No." to Nagin (Won't take part in Mayor's debacle)
CNN | 9/7/05 | CNN Headline News

Posted on 09/07/2005 5:41:44 AM PDT by RGSpincich

CNN Headline news reporter just stated that the military will not force folks from their homes. "Refusing to force Americans from their homes", said the noticeably British reporter. Further, they will not let residents deteriorate in their own homes. The military will continue to get water and food to those remaining in New Orleans, effectively undermining Nagin's mandatory evacuation order.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Front Page News; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: hurricankatrina; huuricane; katrina; katrinafailures; lousiana; nagin; neworleans
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An Act of Congress (PL 91-469) January 5, 1971, designated the official name of the Arkansas-Verdigris Waterway as the McClellan-Kerr Arkansas River Navigation System (MKARNS).

The MKARNS provides a variety of benefits: water supply, navigation, fish and wildlife conservation, recreation, hydropower generation, and flood control (when considered part of the Arkansas River Basin Project, which includes upstream reservoirs to control water flows).

The length of the system is 445 river miles. It takes a commercial tow (towboat and barges) about 5 days to travel the MKARNs; about 10 days to get to New Orleans from the Tulsa Port of Catoosa.

The difference in elevation from the beginning of the system (mile point 600 on the Mississippi River) to the end (the Tulsa Port of Catoosa) is 420 feet.

The system is entered via the White River; continued on the Arkansas Post Canal; then up the Arkansas River to Muskogee; and on to the Tulsa Port of Catoosa via the Verdigris River.

The system was channeled up the Verdigris to Catoosa from Muskogee, rather than up the Arkansas to Tulsa, because the Arkansas River at Tulsa is 110' higher in elevation than the Verdigris at Catoosa.

The Corps of Engineers maintains a minimum 9 foot channel depth on the system. The system has 18 locks and dams--13 in Arkansas, 5 in Oklahoma.

The newest lock & dam is Montgomery Point Lock & Dam. This structure is located at the entrance to the McClellan-Kerr Arkansas River Navigation System, and was dedicated on July 16, 2004.

Each lock chamber is 110' wide and 600' long. The McClellan-Kerr was designed for 8 barge tows and can accommodate 15 barge tows using double lockage. Tow haulage equipment has been installed on the lower six locks in Arkansas, with plans to install the other locks in the future.

Federal cost of the system was $1.2 billion. The Corps of Engineers reports a 99% return on its investment. Billions of dollars in public and private investment has occurred along the MKARNS in Arkansas and Oklahoma. At the Tulsa Port of Catoosa alone, the waterway has generated investment of more than $1.15 billion, and over 2 billion dollars at Muskogee.

90+ industries and 5200 employees are located at the five public ports on the system . These public ports are located at Catoosa, Muskogee, Ft. Smith, Little Rock and Pine Bluff. There are approximately 50 private ports.

There are nearly 100 industries on the Oklahoma segment of the MKARNS. The segment between Catoosa and Muskogee provides direct employment for over 4,000 people and an annual payroll of more than $85 million. Indirect employment accounts for another 6,000 jobs and a payroll of $90 million.

Over the past 25 years, the MKARNS has created 54,000 direct jobs, paying $78 million annually; indirect payroll is well over $1 billion.

The waterway industry provides direct employment for approximately 180,000 American citizens.

There are three designated Foreign Trade Zones along the navigation system at the public ports at Little Rock, Muskogee and Catoosa.

Not only is the 2,000 acre Tulsa Port of Catoosa the largest port on the MKARNS, but also is the largest and most inland ice-free port on the entire 25,000 miles of the U. S. inland waterway system.

In 2004 total tonnage shipped on the system was12,896,887. 2005 is expected to produce an even higher figure.

Commodities shipped include: chemical fertilizer; farm products; sand/gravel & rock; iron & steel; petroleum products; wheat; and soybeans. A 1994 chart lists commodity percentages.

The 12,896,887 tons shipped on the Waterway in 1997 are equivalent (in tons) to: 8598 barges, 128,970 railroad cars, or 515,880 trucks.

The first large inland waterway movement of military equipment since World War II originated on the MKARNS by the Arkansas Army National Guard when it traveled to Camp Grayling, Michigan for training.

Inland barges carry approximately 15 percent of the nation’s freight at the lowest unit cost, while offering an environmentally-sound alternative to other land modes.

Inland waterway transportation provides competitive shipping rates, keeping truck and rail transportation costs low -- and ideal transportation environment for new or expanding industries. Comparisons:

* Cents per ton mile: barge 0.97; oil pipeline 0.78; railroad 2.53; truck 5.35

** BTUs per ton mile: barge 433; railroad 696; oil pipeline 1,850; truck 2,400

*Corps of Engineers Annual Report. **USDOT Maritime Administration.

Number of miles one ton can be carried per gallon of fuel: Inland barge 514 miles, rail 202 miles, truck 59 miles.

.One jumbo barge has the same capacity as 15 railroad cars or 60 semi-trucks. In 2004, 1,311 barges carrying 2,220,871 tons moved through the Tulsa Port of Catoosa - an equivalent of 19,665 railroad cars or 78,660 trucks. In other comparisons of cargo capacities:

One jumbo barge = 1,500 tons 52,500 bushels 453,600 gallons

One railroad car = 100 tons 3,500 bushels 30,240 gallons

One semi-truck = 25 tons 875 bushels 7,560 gallons

Emissions produced in moving one ton of cargo 1,000 miles equal (pollutants in pounds):

*Hydrocarbon: towboat .09, rail .46, truck .63

*Carbon monoxide: towboat .20, rail .64, truck 1.90

*Nitrous oxide: towboat .53 rail 1.83, truck 10.17

*Environmental Protection Agency, Emission Control Lab



The Jean-Pierre Chouteau Hiking Trail, located alongside the MKARNS from a point near Ft. Gibson, OK, is 60 miles long, has a total of 15 bridges spanning streams and six public use areas with camping and picnicking facilities, and is on the National Register of Trails.

In January 1986, the M/V Frauke, a West German cargo ship, traveled to the Tulsa Port of Catoosa via the MKARNS. The ship was the first international ocean-going ship to traverse the system.

Forty-two foreign countries have traded with the Arkansas River Basin Region via the MKARNS.

* Thanks to the Oklahoma Department of Transportation and Tulsa Port of Catoosa for information used on this Fact Sheet.



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261 posted on 09/07/2005 8:31:19 AM PDT by eastforker (Under Cover FReeper going dark(too much 24))
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To: mewzilla

I heard word of this yesterday from someone who knows. Property and mortgage buying going on now. Big operators in NO.


262 posted on 09/07/2005 8:31:44 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Calpernia
"If 40% of NO is dry, what would be the reason to force the residents out that aren't in sewer water?"

No electricity,
no drinking water
no functioning sewers,
no food supplied by anyone other than overburdened emergency workers.

Other than that, no reason, really.

263 posted on 09/07/2005 8:31:56 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
The Gov and the Mayor seem to be on different pages.

Unfortunately for Louisiana...both of them are blank.


LOL Good one.
264 posted on 09/07/2005 8:32:12 AM PDT by CitizenM ("An excuse is worse than an lie, because an excuse is a lie hidden." Pope John Paul, II)
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To: maica

Aaron Brown was having a breakdown (fake) over the very thought of that dirty water being pumped out of the city.


265 posted on 09/07/2005 8:32:34 AM PDT by OldFriend (MAJ. TAMMY DUCKWORTH ~ A NATIONAL TREASURE)
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To: Dave S
Perhaps the fact that they have no power, no water, no telephone, are a drag on rescue workers who have to continue bringing them food and water at risk to their own lives. Also the fact that the city doesnt have the police and fire services to protect them. Soon as their home burns down and no fire department comes to put out the fire, who do you think is going to get sued?

You are grossly underestimating the will of American people to servive.

266 posted on 09/07/2005 8:32:43 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: YaYa123

Thank you for the link.


267 posted on 09/07/2005 8:32:44 AM PDT by RGSpincich
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To: Redbob

Power is coming back:

Excerpt:

Power returning

Parts of the Central Business District and the Warehouse District had power Tuesday, said Dan Packer, president and chief executive officer of Entergy New Orleans.

He said he hoped to have the entire CBD up in a few days. Authorities worked to get hotels up and running to house hundreds of workers who will be faced with the daunting task of helping rebuild the city.


268 posted on 09/07/2005 8:32:55 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia
"I would love to see who the puppet master is consulting with Blanco and nagin."

Nagin appears to be under the "pot" of gold at the end of the "rainbow" gang. Why else demand everybody out, means more dollars and real estate to control.

Blanco appears to have been forced from the locals Landrieu INC,. to the Clinton camp. Hillry's call for a 9/11 style commission was not necessarily directed at the Republicans.

This is about political power paid for by the taxpayers and this bunch are professional taxpayer tappers.
269 posted on 09/07/2005 8:34:16 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: GracieRose
pray, pray, pray, God's will be done. May He shine is everloving Light all over New Orleans and its mayor.

Say some prayers for Miss. and Ala., too. They actually caught the brunt of the hurricane and are being so terribly neglected.

270 posted on 09/07/2005 8:34:38 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: Old Student
"I can do without the jetski, though." Me too. I bought it
in December 04 and still haven't rode it yet.
271 posted on 09/07/2005 8:35:55 AM PDT by PositiveCogins
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To: john316
A fourty foot dyke will stop it cold..... Ok, who has a pic of Janet Reno

ROTFLMAO!!!! I don't care who you are, now thats funny right there.

272 posted on 09/07/2005 8:36:18 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: amom

post 61


273 posted on 09/07/2005 8:36:35 AM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Freeper amom will be reporting live from BRLA)
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To: Alberta's Child
<> << I'm just suggesting that if the military doesn't have the jurisdiction to evict people from their homes, they sure as hell have no business airlifting Happy Meals to stubborn people who insist on staying in their homes in a city that no longer exists.>> They would have no choice. It would be terrible PR for them to leave the people there and not to give them food or water to sustain them.
274 posted on 09/07/2005 8:38:13 AM PDT by Naomi4
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To: Just mythoughts

When Landrieu was running for Senate against Terrell, didn't Clinton call for a 'get out the vote' initiative? Who was the NO Mayor then? Was it Nagin?


275 posted on 09/07/2005 8:38:32 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Sacajaweau

I am alarmed that the MSM even FNC is reporting this AS IF Nagin had the Authority and the cops to do it. mayors cannot declare martial law ever!!


276 posted on 09/07/2005 8:38:36 AM PDT by omega4179 (Bush doesnt control the weather!)
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To: GeorgiaYankee
Here's an idea. If these people don't want to leave, all able-bodied residents should be hired to work in the recovery and cleanup process. That way they won't just be a burden, requiring food and water deliveries, but contributing nothing.

Thats an excellent idea. They would be with other people and would be much safer. Very good idea! It would be a win win situation.

277 posted on 09/07/2005 8:39:14 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: mvpel
Give them a magic marker and tell them to write their social security number on their arms, so their bodies will be easy to identify when they're recovered.

I don't think things are that dire. See post 177.

278 posted on 09/07/2005 8:40:38 AM PDT by beckysueb (God bless America and President Bush.)
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To: RGSpincich

The military takes orders from a much higher authority which is not Nagin.


279 posted on 09/07/2005 8:44:14 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (Ohio State vs. Texarse, Sept 10th)
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To: beckysueb
OK now we have either forced evacuation or forced labor next will be forced evacuation and forced labor. Then concentration camps then????? ANY MORE GREAT IDEAS???
280 posted on 09/07/2005 8:44:20 AM PDT by PositiveCogins
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