Posted on 09/06/2005 8:21:03 PM PDT by America First Libertarian
whoops, "radical leninist" doesnt make sense. lenin WAS a radical, lol
“On New Year’s Eve, I boarded the train to Moscow with an interim stop in Leningrad’s (St. Petersburg) Finland Station. It was the same route Lenin had taken in 1917 when he returned to Russia to take over the revolution. It was on my mind because I had read Edmund Wilson’s marvelous book To the Finland Station. When we came to the Russian border, another isolated outpost, I met my first real live Communist, a pudgy, cherubic-looking guard.”
Bill Clinton, from his book My Life, p. 167 (note: actually, Clinton met his “first real live communist” at Oxford; that “first real live communist” was his friend Jan Kopold)
"Kind of an uphill battle when ones state is controlled by corrupt unions."
I didn't know corrupt unions had a stake in the whole gay marriage thing. Please explain.
Pardon me while I go get sick. These people (Clintons) are the WORST excuses for human beings...
If you are a therapist, you, of all people, ought to know the truth about their health (emotional, mental, and physical).
They fund the dems who run for office. Out spend the Republicans.
Family courts will use the FACT homosexuals have a shorter lifespan in determining custody.
I know because I have used expert witnesses to testify for clients in custody cases where the father "discovered" homosexual preferences in the course of a divorce. Essentially the the best interests of the child are best served by granting full custody to the mother in that situaion. It is also useful in precluding overnight visitation. (in one case mandatory supervised visitation)
You may not like it but the homosexual lifestyle DOES create an expectation of shorter life. IT is why homosexuals fight tooth and nail for keeping aids exposure for insurance consideration in applications. Why they absolutly HATE the fact blood and sperm donations do not allow homosexual donors.
They are the julius and ethyl rosenbergs x 1,000,000
"Why they absolutly HATE the fact blood and sperm donations do not allow homosexual donors. "
Liberalism is a mental disorder....
You appear to be a real champion for the cause of
Moral Relativism.
Government has no business regulating any marriage, gay or straight. It's hypocritical to support government sanctioned straight marriage and oppose gay marriage. Oppose both! Keep the government out of the bedroom!
OMG!!!!
The uprooting of traditional family institutions is also a goal of the homosexual revolution, which -- like the feminist movement -- has its origins in the Marxist Left and has been nurtured by the power elite. The American "gay rights" movement was inaugurated by the Mattachine Society, founded in the 1950s by Marxists Harry Hay and Rudi Gernreich. The ongoing and shockingly successful campaign to normalize homosexuality is the product of a cunning strategy that uses the mass media, especially entertainment, and other Establishment-controlled institutions to re-educate the public in favor of the unmentionable vice. That strategy was outlined, with stunning candor, in After the Ball: How America Will Conquer Its Fear and Hatred of Gays in the '90's, by homosexual activists Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen. Taking a page from Gramsci (and Goebbels), the authors urged that the Lavender Lobby mount a full-scale propaganda war to bring about the "conversion" of America through a "planned psychological attack." Through such means, the authors predicted, Americans would be "cured" of their opposition to homosexual perversion, "whether they like it or not."
"Americans would be "cured" of their opposition to homosexual perversion, "whether they like it or not.""
Well, thank god they haven't been successful enough to get American's to suport Homo marriage.
"It is about how we raise children."
Wrong. Plenty of marriages are barren but the union holds.
"Homosexuals are irrelevant to society."
Wrong. This thread and a thousand others are the evidence. And, nobody is irrelevant.
"They have no reason to seek marriage other than to legitimize their sexual conduct as equal to normal sexual conduct."
Wrong. Unless of course, you know the mind of every homosexual seeking marriage and, through this amazing ability you know they're not really in love.
"The fact is that these legislators are bypassing the will of the people."
Right. I don't know when the people voted. Time can change peoples views though and I'm sure that's what these representatives are banking on.
"The right thing would be for the legislators to respect the people and stop playing checkbook politics."
That applies to everything the government (state or federal) does or doesn't do.
"If anything this shows why we need the Federal Marriage Amendment to end this effort to define marriage as a adult sex behavior and not about producing and raising children."
Wrong. Get off your obsession with other people's sex lives. Marriage is about a life long commitment that last's far beyond the child bearing years. Our vows included "til death do us part" not "til after the kids are grown and gone do us part". I'm sure yours included something similar.
They're calling their own movement perversion???? I mean, it IS, but they're acknowledging it?
Then, I suggest they bring it up for another vote of the people of our state, OK?
"Time can change peoples views though and I'm sure that's what these representatives are banking on."
Times can change? What the hell has changed since the election? You think there's been such a monumental shift in opinion that the people want their elected officials to circumvent their vote?
For a clear understanding of the homosexual movement and it's foundations See posts #93, #77 and #66
Now it is up to Ahhhnold. Either stand up like a man and veto this crap, or join the 'girly-men'...What'll it be? T2 or tea for two?
"They fund the dems..."
Right, but unless they're paying people outright to vote a certain way, I don't see how money will help them when it comes to this issue. This is an extremely powerful issue that people won't forget unless they really don't care about it. It's a vote getter for sure... Republican challengers should be licking their chops right now.
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