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Katrina Updates Thread
Self | 9/6/2005 | Abigail Adams

Posted on 09/06/2005 10:15:17 AM PDT by Abigail Adams

This thread is for Katrina news and updates.


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To: NautiNurse
A Request from Governor Blanco and the National Homeland Security Consortium

"National Homeland Security Consortium"? What is that? Blanco is trying to make the response a purely Federal responsibility.

921 posted on 09/09/2005 10:03:48 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: NautiNurse

WDSU: Water receeding by 4-6 inches per day. Evacuation of city is 80% complete. In Plaquemines Parish, 80% of cattle were lost. Superdome damage estimated at $100 million.

One National Guard soldier just back from Iraq said NO was worse than Baghdad as far as danger, not knowing when you might be shot at.


922 posted on 09/09/2005 10:06:57 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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Fewer Bodies Than Expected Found in Sweeps

By DON BABWIN, Associated Press Writer 5 minutes ago

NEW ORLEANS - Authorities said Friday that their first systematic sweep of the city found far fewer bodies than expected, suggesting that the death toll may not be the catastrophic 10,000 feared.

"I think there's some encouragement in what we've found in the initial sweeps that some of the catastrophic deaths that some people predicted may not have occurred," said Terry Ebbert, New Orleans' homeland security chief.

Ebbert declined to give a new estimate of the dead.

Authorities turned their attention to counting the dead in a grid-by-grid search of the city after spending days cajoling, persuading and all but strong-arming the living into leaving the swamped city because of the danger of fires and disease from the filthy, corpse-laden floodwaters.

"Numbers so far are relatively minor as compared to the dire projections of 10,000," Ebbert said.

Mayor Ray Nagin suggested over the weekend that the death toll could climb that high, and authorities began bringing in 25,000 body bags as they started gathering up the dead across a landscape awash in corpses.


923 posted on 09/09/2005 10:10:16 AM PDT by deport
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To: deport

Brown will no longer be FEMA director.

I hope they get someone with a lot of disaster recovery experience to replace him.


924 posted on 09/09/2005 10:16:33 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: Ellesu
I received that email from disasterhelp.net. They are the ones providing us volunteers with updates regarding our deployment status.

This info is not published on the internet.

925 posted on 09/09/2005 10:17:47 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: Abigail Adams

Oh...Brown removed as head of hurricane relief effort. Not sure yet if he is to be removed as head of FEMA yet.


926 posted on 09/09/2005 10:18:23 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: NautiNurse

Okay, Thanks.


927 posted on 09/09/2005 10:26:11 AM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Cboldt
"National Homeland Security Consortium"? What is that?

First time I had seen that designation. Sounds like another layer of money sucking bureaucracy. Likely James Lee Witt is front and center of the consortium for Blanco du Bois.

928 posted on 09/09/2005 10:26:55 AM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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FEMA Chief Relieved of Katrina Duties

By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer 3 minutes ago

WASHINGTON - Federal Emergency Management Agency Director Michael Brown is being removed from his role managing Hurricane Katrina relief efforts, The Associated Press has learned.

Brown is being sent back to Washington from Baton Rouge, where he was the primary official overseeing the federal government's response to the disaster, according to two federal officials who declined to be identified before the announcement.

Brown will be replaced by Coast Guard Vice Adm. Thad w. Allen, who was overseeing New Orleans relief and rescue efforts.

Brown has been under fire because of the administration's slow response to the magnitude of the hurricane. On Thursday, questions were raised about whether he padded his resume to highlight his previous emergency management background.

Less than an hour before Brown's removal came to light, White House press secretary Scott McClellan said Brown had not resigned and the president had not asked for his resignation.

McClellan did not directly answer a question about whether the president had full confidence in Brown.

"We appreciate all those who are working round the clock, and that's the way I would answer it," he said.


929 posted on 09/09/2005 10:29:29 AM PDT by deport
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To: NautiNurse

WDSU: Brown to be replaced by Coast Guard Vice Admiral Thad Allen, as far as hurrican relief efforts go anyway.


930 posted on 09/09/2005 10:29:33 AM PDT by Abigail Adams
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To: All

After Katrina, Swaggart sued in real estate dispute over LSU hospital needs--

A company negotiating with LSU to build the charity hospital on property optioned from Jimmy Swaggart Ministries has sued the preacher's operation, alleging the Family Worship Center is avoiding legal obligations because of changes in the real estate market after Katrina. Health Science Park LLC said 66 acres optioned from Swaggart include buildings on the campus. LSU's Health Sciences Division now wants to use the space for needs arising after the hurricane, but Swaggart is blocking the showing of the space for a possible lease, said company founder Terry Jones.
Are ministry officials negotiating with LSU on the space optioned by Health Sciences? "We are aware they have had conversations," Jones said. Swaggart officials could not be reached for comment this morning.

Health Sciences wants to develop the property as a campus for the health sciences division. To do so, the company optioned the property in November and has paid $350,000 for the current options. The one-year options can be extended by Health Sciences.



Entergy discusses passing hurricane losses to customers
Entergy Corp. could try to recover millions in Katrina losses by passing the costs on to customers, reports the Wall Street Journal this morning. Company CEO Wayne Leonard has been talking to state and federal officials about recouping not only damage losses, but also revenue losses from an interruption in business. One idea under consideration is letting Entergy issue bonds that would be paid off by surcharges to utility customers.


La. Politics by John Maginnis: Planning for new communities
Work could start Monday on preparing land in the Baton Rouge area for mobile home parks, which could later be developed into more permanent communities. According to Shaw Group consulting planner Patrick Moore, the plan is to expand FEMA's two-phase model for relocation developments that start with trailer communities meant to last for six months, followed by modular homes meant to last three to five years. But with so many people having no homes or jobs to go back to, Shaw Group is developing a new prototype for FEMA that will include workforce development and business incubator facilities.
-- Legislative leaders are looking for the governor to call a special session early next year when more is known about the amount of revenue losses. Lawmakers can tap as much as one-third of the $390 million in the state rainy day fund. That might only be a drop in the bucket for the state general fund losses in taxes on sales, personal and corporate income, gambling and hotels in the New Orleans region.

-- State Treasurer John Kennedy has moved to assure state bondholders that the government will make all its debt payments when due, but it will take more work to honor the obligations of the hardest hit local governments. Kennedy said the state's two U.S. senators are seeking a congressional appropriation "for a pool of money to make cash grants or credit guarantees available to local governments to help them make debt payments."

(John Maginnis covers Louisiana politics. Visit his site at lapolitics.com).



Rep. Baker: God cleaned up public housing
U.S. Rep. Richard Baker of Baton Rouge was caught making an insensitive remark. In Wall Street Journal column this morning, the Republican is overheard telling lobbyists: "We finally cleaned up public housing in New Orleans. We couldn't do it, but God did." Baker later told the WSJ that he didn't intent to be flippant but has wanted to improve housing for the poor.



Seafood swamped by Katrina, impact in the billions
The potential economic impact of losses to the commercial and recreational seafood industries in Louisiana by Hurricane Katrina could reach up to $1.6 billion over the next 12 months, according to a preliminary draft report by the state Department of Wildlife and Fisheries. While officials still need to conduct comprehensive assessments on the water and from the air, experts are already concerned some commercial anglers will exit the trade as cheaper imports flood the market. "The industry is not going to exist for some period of time," says John Roussel, assistant secretary of the department.

Roughly 33% of all wholesale and retail seafood dealers reside in the impacted region, as do 63% of the state's charter boats. Rex H. Caffey, director of LSU's Center for Natural Resource Economics and Policy, considers the preliminary impact released by the state to be "extremely conservative," especially since his office estimated commercial dockside prices to be about $1 billion earlier this year. Louisiana produces more seafood than any continental state. "I never conceived losing this much of the market at one time," Caffey says. (Jeremy Alford)


Idea: Let evacuees building their own future
Some big-time federal dollars are bound for New Orleans, and so are a slew of contractors from all over the country who will profit by rebuilding tens of thousands of homes and businesses.

LSU architecture professor David Baird poses a pertinent question: Why not spend some of that federal aid to train evacuees in the construction trades? After all, thousands of able-bodied young men and women now are without work, many are stuck in shelters and face daunting futures. Train them in the basics of carpentry, plumbing, electrical and other trades. The federal money could be administered through existing vo-tech programs, or could be used to set up new satellite training programs convenient to the shelters. "Traditional federal aid is good at coming in and building housing for people, but does that really empower them?" Baird asks. "They need jobs and a way to go out and buy a house on their own and pay for it." Training people one classroom at a time may not be as sexy as relocating a Fortune 500 company, but it creates better opportunity for the people who need it the most. It's like the old adage: Give a hungry man a fish and he eats today, teach him to fish and he eats for life. What better way to rebuild a great city than with the hands of its residents who know it best? (Tom Guarisco)



Business Report columnist: Inept Blanco and Bush are symptoms of disengagement from politics
The torn levees and rising floodwaters that permitted the Devil to creep into New Orleans also exposed a tragedy: An American disdain for government has resulted in the election of politicians incapable of conducting the important functions of governance, writes Business Report Web Editor Mukul Verma. The disengagement from government has given us inept elected officials like George Bush and Kathleen Blanco. Read his column at this link.


http://www.daily-report.com


931 posted on 09/09/2005 10:40:29 AM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: Ellesu

Admiral Allen and Gen Honore in briefing on Fox now.


932 posted on 09/09/2005 11:38:12 AM PDT by sheikdetailfeather
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To: sheikdetailfeather; Miss Marple; NautiNurse; All

bttt

This whole situation with the Gov. in La., just gets curiouser and curiouser....

Miss Marple has a list on another thread of all of the help that has been kept away...since before the hurricane hit...and then you add NautiNurse's post...just curious


933 posted on 09/09/2005 1:37:04 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
Miss Marple has a list on another thread of all of the help that has been kept away...

Somehow, I've missed seeing MM's list, but here's what I have- and take some with a grain of salt, I have not confimed each story yet:

  Homeland Security won't let Red Cross deliver food" Ann Rogers got it wrong!
 
 Local Officials helped trap people in New Orleans - - old ladies dying and the brother officer go the extra mile to save a "brother". Now he can help disarm the rest of the law abiding citizens.
 RE; Closing bridges and trapping evacuees:
 http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1481211/posts
 Here's another first hand report. Note that LNG (Lousiana National Guard) troops, on site, in front of the refugees, ate and drank while at least one trapped person (an elderly woman) died of thirst:
 http://www.strangepolice.com/content/item/110126.html
 
  Louisiana authorities DELIBERATELY MADE THINGS WORSE
 
 Just reported on Britt Hume's show
N.O. officials wanted to discourage people from going to the Superdome, and that is why they stopped FEMA, Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc., from going in with food.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1479626/posts
 
  Blanco refused to allow Red Crss and FEMA tobrinfg food and water to Stadium!!!
 
  Chertoff Draws Fire on Briefing (14 trailers of water/MREs delivered to Superdome Aug 29-30)
  Sunday, Aug 28th:
Louisiana National Guard delivered three truckloads of water and seven truckloads of MREs, short for "meals ready to eat." That's enough to supply 15,000 people for three days
 
  Shelter-seekers find long lines, noisy conditions in Superdome  Posted on Mon, Aug. 29, 2005  ----About the MRE's before the Hurricane  From the Times-Picayune Archives- Monday, Aug 29
 
 What went wrong in New Orleans...
 
 State Rebuffed Security Bid to Put Louisiana Troops Under U.S. Command Amid New Orleans Chaos
 
  Hurricane Katrina: After-Action Report - Where were the breakdowns --
 
 Gov. Blanco Received Multiple Calls From President Bush before, during and after Hurricane to help. -- As they try to change history, it is time to reflect on what Governor Blanco actually stated on the day of the flood...
 
 
Governor Blanco's Letter To President Bush 8/27/05 -- This is backdated. The crooked LA Officials are re-writting the truth
If we can prove that we can have another Dan Rather moment here, and on the anniversary too...
 
 Nagin's Failure (Photo of Buses sitting in Water)
 
 New Orleans: Special Emergency Transportation Planning and Massive Evacuation - March 2004 -- the concrete proof that the Mayor should have been responsible, rather than the Feds.  Good find. Nagin thought with the server floating in water no one would ever see this again...
 
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From:
 HURRICANE KATRINA- archive of links

934 posted on 09/09/2005 2:43:01 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Good---terrific list...

Did you see the thread that said that the Sheriff of Gretna parish blocked a road going West out of NO...so that people evacuating were NOT allowed to leave that way...

There was even deputies standing on road, and when people would come close to them they shot up in the air...

hmmmmmmmm


936 posted on 09/09/2005 3:01:26 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Txsleuth
Did you see the thread that said that the Sheriff of Gretna parish blocked a road going West out of NO...so that people evacuating were NOT allowed to leave that way...

I believe that's covered in a link within the other links- as I mentioned, not all these are confirmed yet, so take for informational purposes at this point.

937 posted on 09/09/2005 3:14:15 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: backhoe

Ack,...Charles Krauthammer is really throwing Bush under the bus again...

Kondrake just dissed Adm Allen, and Gen. Honore...he said this job requires a 4 Star general...

The media is crazy!!!


938 posted on 09/09/2005 3:47:14 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Peach; Miss Marple; Howlin; Bahbah; Mo1

Are you guys watching Brit's show...w/Jim Angle???

Did you just see that ridiculous round table discussion re: Michael Brown????

I do believe that if Brit had been there...he would have questioned so of the statements they made...


939 posted on 09/09/2005 3:50:01 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Arizona Carolyn

See posts #938 and 939


940 posted on 09/09/2005 3:51:13 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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