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1 posted on 09/06/2005 12:26:58 AM PDT by HAL9000
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And while the floor of the convention centre toilets were indeed covered in excrement, the Guardian found no corpses.

Wonder what the people in there thought of these news crews dashing in and out. Hey why don't you leave your lights in the bathroom for us? Because we sure don't have any there! ...

2 posted on 09/06/2005 12:32:48 AM PDT by The Red Zone (Florida, the sun-shame state, and Illinois the chicken injun.)
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I did say that I suspected that much of the reports out of New Orleans were probably going to be proven to be exaggerated.

I got two kinds of responses... Polite agreement and rabid disagreement.

No, wait - to be honest, I did get a couple of respectful disagreements from people who heard personally from someone who heard from someone who heard from someone.


3 posted on 09/06/2005 12:33:49 AM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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So what are they saying? That the media spread a bunch of B.S. that made the United States look bad. Tell me it ain't so.


4 posted on 09/06/2005 12:37:45 AM PDT by Rokke
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Trust the Guardian to print this garbage.

Can they confirm this "nurse" story? Does the lack of proof ever stop them from printing false stories of "Jew aggression"
The Guardian, creators of false stories like the "Jenin massacre" which never happened, have a lot of nerve preaching journalistic accuracy.
5 posted on 09/06/2005 12:38:23 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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Similarly when the first convoy of national guardsmen went into New Orleans approached the convention centre they were ordered to "lock and load".

Maybe the thugs hid their guns knowing that NG's would shoot them to death if they fight. Criminals are though guys, but when they know soldiers (who are trained for warfare) are coming, they are usually terrified.

But considering the difficulties inside the Astrodome; hunger, thirst, emotional trauma and more, people could easily thought about almost every wild thing they know.

6 posted on 09/06/2005 12:38:57 AM PDT by ChristianDefender (If you can't fight with M16/M4.. then use prayer, if not just choose whose side are You!)
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The story about the young girl has changed considerably since last week.

1. A man was beaten by the crowd for attempting to rape a 13 year old girl.
2. A man was KILLED for raping a 13 year old girl.
3. A man was killed for raping a 7 year old girl.
4. A man was killed for raping and killing a 7 year old girl.
These are just the stories I remember hearing on the news every night. I suspect it is the first one.
7 posted on 09/06/2005 12:39:34 AM PDT by msnimje (CNN - Constant Negative Nonsense)
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Similarly when the first convoy of national guardsmen went into New Orleans approached the convention centre they were ordered to "lock and load". But when they arrived they were confronted not by armed mobs but a nurse wearing a T-shirt that read "I love New Orleans". "She ran down a broken escalator, then held her hands in the air when she saw the guns," wrote the LA Times. "We have sick kids up here!" she shouted. "We have dehydrated kids! One kid with sickle cell!"

I think this nurse is from San Antonio, and she was at the River something Mall in New Orleans where she and seventy five others had banded together for safety. She was on our local news, and said it was mayhem, looting, and women screaming down below. She wasn't at the convention center (unless the mall and convention center are one and the same).

Our Local station ksat in San Antonio had her on tonite.I'm sure they have it on video at www.ksat.com.

10 posted on 09/06/2005 12:43:02 AM PDT by sockmonkey
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And while many claim they happened, no witnesses, survivors or survivors' relatives have come forward.

No kidding, genius! They caught the first available bus to escape your he]]-hole city...

11 posted on 09/06/2005 12:43:20 AM PDT by TXnMA (Iraq & Afghanistan: Bush's "Bug-Zappers"...)
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New Orleans police have been unable to confirm the tale of the raped child, or indeed any of the reports of rapes, in the Superdome and convention centre.

New Orleans police chief Eddie Compass said last night: "We don't have any substantiated rapes. We will investigate if the individuals come forward."

This certainly doesn't give one the impression that the NOPD is out there actively trying to find out what happened, but rather that they are sitting back and waiting for witnesses to come to them.

As we already know from their abysmal conviction rate, in the past witnesses to crime in NO have been very reluctant to come forward out of fear. I would expect unless the NOPD makes active efforts to find witnesses, few if any will come forward as they are more concerned with their hour-by-hour existence. It also seems rather odd that the police chief limited his statement to rapes and did not address any other crimes.

13 posted on 09/06/2005 12:43:44 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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The Guardian, as far to the left as it leans, was also the first to debunk our government's production that abused Jessica Lynch for the amazonian feminist interests among our "elite." Even a socialist propaganda outlet is correct at times.


20 posted on 09/06/2005 12:52:51 AM PDT by familyop ("Let us try" sounds better, don't you think? "Essayons" is so...Latin.)
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New Orleans police have been unable to confirm the tale of the raped child...

As if everyone has lots of faith in the NOPD. Or the Guardian. Talk about something being apocryphal!

27 posted on 09/06/2005 1:01:31 AM PDT by LibWhacker
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The Guardian, to me it seems, is trying to become another National Enquirer.
29 posted on 09/06/2005 1:03:20 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (Liberalism is a form of insanity)
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If anything, the accounts I have been hearing from personal friends of mine who have been escaping the carnage in NOLA lead me to believe that the MSM have been sugar-coating and omitting much of the horror that's been occuring on in that hellhole.


40 posted on 09/06/2005 2:08:56 AM PDT by rightwinggoth
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Who am I going to believe, the Guardian or my lying eyes?


41 posted on 09/06/2005 2:09:13 AM PDT by BnBlFlag (Deo Vindice/Semper Fidelis)
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bookmark.


49 posted on 09/06/2005 6:24:48 AM PDT by Alia
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A lot of it sounds made up to me from pure hysteria.


51 posted on 09/06/2005 6:43:56 AM PDT by cyborg (I'm having the best day ever.)
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I hope the Guardian is correct and that the reports of murder and rape in NOLA are false or exaggerated. I hope none of that stuff happened. However, I fear the opposite is true. Many times this past week I've thought, regarding the anarchy, that we probably aren't hearing the half of it. Problem is, because law and order broke down, it won't be possible for many authorities to thoroughly investigate these crimes, gather evidence, ID a suspect, etc, like they would for an ordinary crime. We probably will never know the numbers and just how many rapes and murders happened.


52 posted on 09/06/2005 6:53:41 AM PDT by sassbox
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What were they supposed to do to handle the bathroom problem in the dome? The toilets were all backed up, because the sewers filled up, and there was no running water.

I suppose they could have brought in porta-potties, but in 24 hours would they have gotten enough for 30,000 people for 4 days? Probably not.

So long as the people were evacuated to a place which was under water, and forced to stay there for 3 or more days, they were going to have some pretty disgusting and unsanitary conditions.

That is unpleasant, but other than removing the people from the dome what were they supposed to do about it?


55 posted on 09/06/2005 7:25:23 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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I happen to think that there was no exaggeration of the violence that occured in the Anarchydome.

Think for a moment. Who, if anyone, would benefit in downplaying the fact that rapes occured within a certain segment of the society in NO, uprooted suddenly and thrown into a dome for days on end.

I would imagine the rapes would be downplayed because it would not play well from a PR perspective by the people who would benefit the most by having it downplayed or ignored. I think there were enough eyewitnesses. I saw some reports from foreigners who were in there, and I can tell you, they did not exaggerate (one foreign, engaged couple for example--the fiancee was threatened with rape multipe times with rapes went on around them).

60 posted on 09/06/2005 8:15:33 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (USA should be studied by StateDept. as a "Foreign Country". Then will see OUR insurgents and chaos.)
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And while many claim they happened, no witnesses, survivors or survivors' relatives have come forward.

Urban Legend. TWO things we DO know:
1) The mayor and Governor had NO plan, none.
many residents are scofflaws and or idiots

62 posted on 09/06/2005 8:21:08 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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