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The undoing of America
The Washington Times ^ | September 5, 2005 | Frank J. Gaffney Jr.

Posted on 09/05/2005 7:12:29 AM PDT by george76

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"any descendant of not less than one-half of the blood of the races inhabiting the Hawaiian Islands previous to 1778."

Brings to my mind the Nuremberg Laws of Nazi Germany.

21 posted on 09/05/2005 7:51:06 AM PDT by montag813
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To: george76

This reminds me of the self-proclaimed "African-Americans" who, when disaster struck in the form of a hurricane, became indignant at being called refugees, and insisted they were Americans. Yes, everyone wants to be a plain ol American when they need help, but they want to be separate and hyphenated when times are good. Screw 'em all. Let 'em go.


22 posted on 09/05/2005 7:51:56 AM PDT by LibertyJihad
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To: george76
Other self-designating communities can be expected to demand recognition of their rights to have their own government and sovereign laws. These might include Chicanos, Cajuns, Amish and Puerto Ricans.

Don't forget the worst of all--Muslims, and Sharia Law. This would open the door wide open.

23 posted on 09/05/2005 7:53:26 AM PDT by montag813
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To: george76
I can't believe we, as a nation, would willingly allow measures that result in it's balkanization. This is unspeakable!

Recently there were some Indian tribes that were taking Ohio to court to declare some land theirs for a Casino. Amazingly there were a bunch of people (in Cleveland) that thought it was a good idea since they can't get Ohio citizens to vote to allow gaming. I can't think of a more slippery slope than setting the precedent that Indians can claim land they ceded years ago. While I feel for their ancestors in how they were treated (my wife has Indian ancestry), what is past is past. Nobody today was present and participated on either side.

In many ways, this is like the nonsense arguments for reparations for slavery. My ancestors showed up here and lived exclusively in the north, never having taken part in slavery, only taking part in ending it. Why should I have to pay any reparations to slaves, give land back to Indians, or watch as Hawaii slips away through legislation?

24 posted on 09/05/2005 7:55:55 AM PDT by SteamShovel
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To: Rocky

They let the Indians get away with it.


25 posted on 09/05/2005 7:56:59 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: george76

Any chance of Texas being able to leave this sinking ship?


26 posted on 09/05/2005 7:59:57 AM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: george76

If this is allowed to happen it will be as great a tragedy to our country as Katrina. True, the impact will be felt over a long period of time and "seep in" so to say, but it will be devastating to the United States of America.


27 posted on 09/05/2005 8:00:14 AM PDT by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: george76
This is the ultimate goal of the leftists... The balkanization, and ultimately, the destruction of the United States of America.

The first step was to destroy the educational system in the US. It allows a number of "plusses" (at least to the leftists) like creating a government dependant underclass, the lack of an understanding of history that allows (uneducated) Americans to believe that there's nothing special about the USA, and the concept of "multiculturalism," which posits that no cultures are better than others.

Once they've got a dependant population who believes that there's nothing special about the US, that's when you open the floodgates to illegal aliens. Once you've got an uneducated underclass who can't communicate with the majority of people in the community... Oh, and let's not forget about keying on the differences between people...

The USA used to be a "melting pot" of peoples, which added to the strength of the USA. With seperation and division of people by their heritage, the strength of the USA as a coherent power, and simply a a country, is diminished.

Mark

28 posted on 09/05/2005 8:02:24 AM PDT by MarkL (It was a shocking cock-up. The mice were furious!)
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To: george76
No matter. It surely isn't racism or fascism when Leftists demand a "homeland" based upon the ideology of blood, race, soil.

It's only when whitey does it.

29 posted on 09/05/2005 8:15:30 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: george76

The Confederates screwed up when they tried this 150 years ago using guns. All they needed was a pen.


30 posted on 09/05/2005 8:31:47 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: george76

It seems to me that either we want Hawaii as a state, or we don't. The Democrats want it as a state, because it has two safe Democrat seats. Well, then, let them choose.

And why are some Republicans voting for this idiocy?


31 posted on 09/05/2005 8:34:53 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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Hawaii leave the Union? No more Akaka or Inouye in the Senate?

Ok, and the downside is...?

32 posted on 09/05/2005 8:40:40 AM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

"We have just one problem other than keeping our own money, and that is cutting off welfare to the "old wealth", those who sit on central bank boards and skim earnings off of money they move around and give kick backs to corrupt politicians."

That's the game isn't it? Some people never have enough.


33 posted on 09/05/2005 8:42:02 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: george76

The Hawaiians a want their injun casinos. This piece of legislation will get them very close to Federal recognition as a native American tribe.

It's all about the Benjamins


34 posted on 09/05/2005 2:43:47 PM PDT by dennisw (***)
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To: freeangel

I agree this is the beginning of the eventual disintegration of the United States we know.


35 posted on 09/05/2005 9:09:03 PM PDT by television is just wrong (http://hehttp://print.google.com/print/doc?articleidisblogs.blogspot.com/ (visit blogs, visit ads).)
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To: ALOHA RONNIE; maui_hawaii; injin

Aloha Pinging.


36 posted on 09/06/2005 3:22:12 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: george76; Rocky; All

www.heritage.org
Native Hawaiian Resources
by The Heritage Foundation
September 6, 2006
WebMemo

The United States Senate has scheduled a vote on a motion to proceed to S.147, a bill to authorize the creation of a race-based government for Native Hawaiians living throughout the United States, on Tuesday, September 6, 2005.  As the Native Hawaiian Sovereignty issue moves forward in Congress, please use the attached hyperlinks as a resource to educate yourself on the Native Hawaiian Separatism debate:

The "Native Hawaiian" Bill: An Unconstitutional Approach in Furtherance of a Terrible Idea
by Ed Meese III and Todd Gaziano
Townhall.com

A Raced-Based State: Hawaii wants a segregation that would boggle your mind
by Ramesh Ponnuru
National Review

Why Congress Must Reject Race-Based Government for Native Hawaiians
by Senator Jon Kyl
Republican Policy Committee

Senate May Approve Race-Based Government for Native Hawaiians
by David Freddoso
Human Events

Move Over Kilauea – ‘Native Hawaiians’ Legislation Threatens Fiscal Eruption
by Kristina Rasmussen
Human Events

E Pluribus Unum? Not in Hawaii.
by former Senators Slade Gordon and Hank Brown
Wall Street Journal

Aloha, Apartheid - A court strikes down a race-based policy in Hawaii, while Congress considers enshrining one.
by John Fund
Wall Street Journal

Manifest Destiny in Reverse
by Rich Lowry
National Review

The worst bill you have never heard of
by Tim Chapman
Townhall.com

New Racism in New Bottles
by Bruce Fein
Washington Times

Trouble in paradise?
by Brian McNicoll
Townhall.com


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37 posted on 09/06/2005 3:35:29 PM PDT by Paul Ross (Definition of strict constructionist: someone who DOESN'T hallucinate when reading the Constitution)
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To: Paul Ross

Thanks.

We should try to stop, delay, or water down this bill.


38 posted on 09/06/2005 4:25:10 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: george76

Bump.


39 posted on 09/06/2005 8:32:05 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Rocky
the hawaiian where on the island before any other race .like indians to america so look at that way there was .a king & queen before there was a united state think about that. your read history(start reading about DOLE)
40 posted on 06/09/2006 11:20:40 AM PDT by grim587
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