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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: WVNan

Did you get your FreepMail, Nan?


2,861 posted on 09/05/2005 6:25:24 PM PDT by GOP_Proud (Those who preach tolerance most, have the least for my views.)
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To: Soul Seeker

Dumb question, but I'm away from TV...Who is Vitter? I just can't remember...


2,862 posted on 09/05/2005 6:25:54 PM PDT by sissyjane
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To: Peach

much like Larry's many wives say after the wedding night.


2,863 posted on 09/05/2005 6:25:56 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: fr33p3r

Larry King: Barbara - what do you think about your husband and Bill Clinton working together.

Barbara: It's good for the country and the world. They have a cause, no matter what party, and can get things done. I dislike the political side of this disaster. I think it's wonderful that Bill and George are working for a great cause.

Larry: Bill Clinton isn't prone to criticism. Why is that important -- that presidents don't criticize? (Larry - what planet do you live on?)


2,864 posted on 09/05/2005 6:26:17 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Txsleuth

Thanks TXSleuth.


2,865 posted on 09/05/2005 6:26:20 PM PDT by publana
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To: fr33p3r

Hi Folks. I made it.

We just had our internet service and television restored today.

Our town is messed up but nothing like the Ms. Gulf Coast.

We were very blessed.


2,866 posted on 09/05/2005 6:26:25 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: Peach
Preparations in works to move approximately 4,000 from the Houston area to 2 cruise ships per Fox News.
2,867 posted on 09/05/2005 6:26:35 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: oceanview

ROFL!!


2,868 posted on 09/05/2005 6:26:42 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: pollyg107
That is great American ingenuity right there doing it by appointment. That is a idea guy. Hopefully people won't forget his keeping his profit margin stable after this is all over.

I had the same conversation with a BP/Amoco owner here in Woodstock, GA, he had gas at that point at 3.00 and couldn't understand owners who were loading up things just to make more money. I'd encourage anyone reading this to boycott the Shell just off Towne Lake Parkway (going toward downtown Woodstock) who at the same time had Regular at 3.59.

2,869 posted on 09/05/2005 6:26:47 PM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: Letitring

You're okay!


2,870 posted on 09/05/2005 6:27:07 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: TexKat

Those two cruise ships will never be the same afterwards.


2,871 posted on 09/05/2005 6:27:28 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: Letitring

Hi Letitring. Praise God that you and yours are safe.


2,872 posted on 09/05/2005 6:27:32 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: Peach

Class acts, both of them


2,873 posted on 09/05/2005 6:27:40 PM PDT by morans14
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To: Ellesu
I truly believe this digging is therapeutic for you. Keep up the great work. Looks like Nagin is now ok with Bush, and bad on Blanco

Nagin comments

2,874 posted on 09/05/2005 6:28:15 PM PDT by NautiNurse (The task before us is enormous, but so is the heart of America.)
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To: Peach

Yes and thank God can finally tell you so. :) Whew. That was a rough one.


2,875 posted on 09/05/2005 6:28:37 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: morans14

I think that's what kills the Clintons. The Bush family is the personification of class. The Clinton's are trailor trash, and they know it.


2,876 posted on 09/05/2005 6:28:52 PM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)
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To: fr33p3r

so true, so true.

The Red Cross has collected over $400,000,000 for Disaster Relief so far


2,877 posted on 09/05/2005 6:28:53 PM PDT by Yellow Rose of Texas (Freeper amom will be reporting live from BRLA)
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To: All

the Times picyune had a lengthy article in 2002 on what could happen with a significant hurricane, and evacuation was discussed. One problem with using school buses was there were not enough and not enough drivers...obviously more planning could have been taken but wasn't it was not like this disaster was not thought about before hand.
lengthy article here : "WASHING AWAY":

Don’t bank on shelters

The American Red Cross, which runs federally designated emergency shelters, changed its policy in the mid-1990s after a shelter in South Carolina flooded and people inside nearly drowned. Now the agency bars shelters in areas that can be inundated by a storm surge from a Category 4 hurricane -- which is all of south Louisiana.

Local parishes plan to shelter only those with "special needs," people who cannot be moved. In New Orleans, the Superdome will be used for this purpose.

In lieu of traditional shelters, which offer food and bedding, some parishes plan to open "refuges of last resort" -- buildings that are not safe but are safer than homes. They can house at most a few hundred people per parish, officials say. Most others will be on their own, meaning that in a catastrophic storm more than a 200,000 people could be left at the mercy of the elements.

Faced with those numbers, New Orleans officials have backup plans to move people without transportation: Regional Transit Authority buses and National Guard vehicles would take people out of the city. But the untested plan has raised serious questions from critics who say it could endanger hundreds of thousands of residents.

In an evacuation, buses would be dispatched along their regular routes throughout the city to pick up people and go to the Superdome, which would be used as a staging area. From there, people would be taken out of the city to shelters to the north.

Some experts familiar with the plans say they won’t work.

"That’s never going to happen because there’s not enough buses in the city," said Charley Ireland, who retired as deputy director of the New Orleans Office of Emergency Preparedness in 2000. "Between the RTA and the school buses, you’ve got maybe 500 buses, and they hold maybe 40 people each. It ain’t going to happen."

The plan has other potential pitfalls.

No signs are in place to notify the public that the regular bus stops are also the stops for emergency evacuation. In Miami Beach, Fla., every other bus stop sports a huge sign identifying it as a hurricane evacuation stop.

It’s also unclear whether the city’s entire staff of bus drivers will remain. A union spokesman said that while drivers are aware of the plan, the union contract lacks a provision requiring them to stay.

But RTA safety director Joseph Dorsey said the requirement is part of an operator’s individual contract with the RTA. "Basically, when an operator is hired, there are certain things they agree to, such as working overtime hours when necessary and doing this job," Dorsey said. "They will participate."

A similar plan in Monroe County, Fla. -- the Florida Keys -- failed during Georges when drivers opted out. "The problem is that we may have the buses but we don’t have the drivers," said Irene Toner, director of the county’s emergency management office. "In Hurricane Georges we had 25 people on our bus-driver list and only five showed up."

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf?/washingaway/leftbehind_4.html


2,878 posted on 09/05/2005 6:28:55 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: Letitring

welcome back...everyone ok?


2,879 posted on 09/05/2005 6:29:11 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: Ellesu
Man, this stuff is just rolling out from you. It must have been just sitting there, in the dark background, until this crisis when its seeing the light of day like the mold in the governors mansion.
2,880 posted on 09/05/2005 6:29:11 PM PDT by CedarDave (MLKing, Jr: "I have a dream!", Howard Dean: "I have a scream!", Jesse Jackson: "I have a scheme!")
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