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Katrina Live Threads, Part XV
Various ^ | 4 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/04/2005 6:14:35 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: BurbankKarl
I heard the Convention Center was never on the shelter list. So why would FEMA be looking for it.
Again, the Governor still controls the National Guard, and they were at the Superdome helping medevac and lead the people to busses.

I read (sorry, no cite) that the guard at the Dome was sending people to the Convention Center. Makes sense o send them somewhere if the Dome was full and the situation was as awful as reported.

2,301 posted on 09/05/2005 3:26:50 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: StarFan

The child looks positively dumbfounded.
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His nightmare is continuing - an upside down face coming to get him.

She is an idiot, and using him strictly for a photo-op.
Have you seen any of the shots with Poppi Bush and children? He is such a natural.


2,302 posted on 09/05/2005 3:27:19 PM PDT by maica (Do not believe the garbage the media is feeding you back home. ---Allegra (in Iraq))
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To: maica

The rise in Lake P isn't the issue. The issue is the head. How high inside versus how high outside.

The counter to that is sheet piling under the repair. If it's there, the fill will hold, if not, it won't.

Keep in mind that dry ground isn't related to the head. The water table exists underground as if the land wasn't even there.

On a related note, how to you clean a water supply system that has been compromised as New Orleans' has?

Treatment can clear the major supply lines, then you need residents to run the water under a Biol Order foir a few days to clean out the "last mile".

All well and good, but that's the procedure for bioligical contamination. This system hs been compromised with chemical contamination as well.

Big job, but as posted earlier, New Orleans recovered from 5 to 7' flooding during Betsy in the 60's.


2,303 posted on 09/05/2005 3:27:24 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: abb

Oxygen must be showing reruns.

Gov Blanco is finding a place for a new child.

George Bush found homes for 250,000 people...by asking a state with a REAL DISASTER PLAN to pull the trigger.


2,304 posted on 09/05/2005 3:28:01 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Spktyr

Hose 'em down, dry 'em out and they're good to go.


2,305 posted on 09/05/2005 3:28:05 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: John Jamieson

The other variation is to bring in smaller ships, sink them and then refloat them. I am quite sure somebody could have grabbed a few 200 foot barges that were nearby.


2,306 posted on 09/05/2005 3:28:11 PM PDT by B4Ranch (The New World Odor is UN-American)
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To: oceanview
I also read that the gangsters were keeping most of the food for themselves and parsed out a small amount to the people who were initially at the convention center. Problem was the crowd there kept growing.... and the gansters killed several people inside.

As the corpse's started to rot in that heat I can only imagine the stench those babies inside were exposed to. Several elderly people died outside and were covered up with blankets and you could see the color changing on those covers as body fluids leaked out.

Anyway you look at it this is a disaster of immense proportions... and there is plenty of blame to go around... I think you can actually start with the Democratic Party who skewered Bernie Kerick to the point he had to withdraw from his nomination as Homeland Security Secretary. I may be in the minority, but I think he would have been in his element in this emergency and I'd rather have a "street" person in charge any day than a bureaucrat in an extreme emergency.

2,307 posted on 09/05/2005 3:28:22 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: StarFan

"You're not my Mommy!"

2,308 posted on 09/05/2005 3:29:18 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: B4Ranch


Ny earlier comment:

The decision by NOLA local government (Mayor Nagin) to save the buses instead of deploying them to evacuate the "poor", the infirm, those needing help, etc. with a category 5 hurricane approaching, has been a a major factor contributing to the chaos and has lead to many unnecessary deaths. The photos of the undeployed buses sitting in 4 feet of water a half mile from the Superdome tells a terrible story. Why do we not see these photos on the media and why are reporters not questioning this? Someone obviously made a decision that keeping the buses safe by not deploying BEFORE the hurricane would not risk damaging them so they could be used AFTER the storm hit, to evacuate those who weren't dead (as well as keeping the tourist cash flow, if the hurricane misses.). New Orleans has NEVER deployed their buses to evacuate the "poor" and helpless before any hurricane. They gamble to save their preciuos buses, and now, lose lives because of it. Criminal. And everyone is blaming Bush.


2,309 posted on 09/05/2005 3:29:27 PM PDT by RTINSC
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Environmentalist and liberals have preventing the levees from being upgraded for years...


2,310 posted on 09/05/2005 3:30:02 PM PDT by navysealdad
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To: Arizona Carolyn

There was one clip of people looting the Convention Center, taking piles of Snapple. Again, this was from foodstocks onsite before it closed from the storm, not any relief samples. Showed them loading them into trucks.


2,311 posted on 09/05/2005 3:30:10 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: RTINSC

Not when the (federally mandated by the EPA) ventilated diesel tank is full of water, the engine is full of water, and it's been sitting for a few days.

90% of those engines are going to have to be replaced or rebuilt, the other 10% are going to be shaky and should be replaced anyway.


2,312 posted on 09/05/2005 3:30:22 PM PDT by Spktyr (Overwhelmingly superior firepower and the willingness to use it is the only proven peace solution.)
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To: BurbankKarl

My Gof, this Blanco woman is nuts! NVTS, NUTS!!


2,313 posted on 09/05/2005 3:30:28 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried beacuse I had no shoes, until I saw Kathleen Blanco on TV.)
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To: oceanview
that is one legitmate criticism of FEMA, they need to get plugged into media reports more

Maybe FEMA, maybe media. The most eficient system would have the media file a report with the relevant authorities, so the authorities don't have to watch hours of repetetive pap just to learn a location that needs relief.

If the media knows this stuff, and they do, then why aren't they filing reports with the authorities? The can file with wahtever agency they want to blame on the air - then that agency will be motivated to find the right responder.

2,314 posted on 09/05/2005 3:30:32 PM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Did you forward a copy to FOX -- Hannity, O'Reilly (I suspect he will be on this like a dog with a bone) and Joe Scarborough?


What post?


2,315 posted on 09/05/2005 3:30:44 PM PDT by Ellesu (www.thedeadpelican.com)
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To: BurbankKarl

Shep's back in the studio!

Thank goodness!


2,316 posted on 09/05/2005 3:31:12 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Crawdad

Gof=God. Sorry ,Sir.


2,317 posted on 09/05/2005 3:31:16 PM PDT by Crawdad (I cried beacuse I had no shoes, until I saw Kathleen Blanco on TV.)
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To: Crawdad

GROUP HUG!!!!!!


2,318 posted on 09/05/2005 3:31:16 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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To: Crawdad

She is trying to be Hillary....

clearly delusional, wonder who wrote this speech?


2,319 posted on 09/05/2005 3:31:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: BurbankKarl

Bob Mann


2,320 posted on 09/05/2005 3:32:04 PM PDT by abb (Because News Reporting is too important to be left to the Journalists.)
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