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1 posted on 09/04/2005 3:48:33 PM PDT by Sonar5
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Doesn't this fall under 'criminal negligence' definitions? If so prosecute to the max both Gov & Mayor for the deaths of several.
27 posted on 09/04/2005 4:05:58 PM PDT by BILL FROM TROUT CREEK PASS
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Thanks. Keep the heat on, because the MSM will bury the truth and try their best to pin this on Bush.


30 posted on 09/04/2005 4:07:39 PM PDT by FOXFANVOX (Freedom is not free!)
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Thanks for the research and information.

I offer these thoughts:

1) Assigning blame publicly is counterproductive to the recovery of the area.
2) If this was offered to defend the government you're preaching to the choir.
3) If this was offered to defend a politically partisan government administration (Republican) your efforts would be better spent to identify, encourage and support qualified, conservative minded, citizens to run for public office, especially in Louisiana.

32 posted on 09/04/2005 4:09:42 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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Why was the LA National Guard never deployed, even after they criticized the Federal Government for not sending military assistance?


33 posted on 09/04/2005 4:09:45 PM PDT by gitmo (Thanks, Mel. I needed that.)
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Excellant and precise summary, yet state and local officials and MEDIA refuse to acknowledge local and state's failure to take all precautions to protect it's citizens.

"Most people were asleep" Don't they have emergency sirens to alert people, time to get up and get moving. We hear these test sirens on television once a month to remind people. Yet so quick to blame the federal government.

This should to be given to congress, when they start demanding hearings as to why the feds didn't respond. I'm sure the quiet ones (hillary,kerry,and all the others including jackson's son) will be throwing lethal darts next week. Thank you for the post


34 posted on 09/04/2005 4:11:06 PM PDT by newfrpr04
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To: Sonar5; Travis McGee; kcvl; Cindy; backhoe; Howlin; Mo1; devolve; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Thanks for posting this. Now it will not be revised or deleted by someone in N O's or La.. Travis Mcgee on an earlier reply on another thread has provided the coffin for the mayor and other in N O's who try to blame our president.

I hope that sooner or later the MSM discovers that New Orleans did have a written emergency plan to cover the evacuation of the poor, but that the idiot mayor of New Orleans ignored it, and allowed the evacuation buses to be ruined by the flood, forgotten.

The city leaders had at least two full days to use these hundreds of buses to evac the poor, exactly as their own emergency management plan called for.

Here's the southeast Louisiana evac plan supplement, most recently revised in 2000. Go to page 13, read paragraph 5. It states:

5. The primary means of hurricane evacuation will be personal vehicles. School and municipal buses, government-owned vehicles and vehicles provided by volunteer agencies may be used to provide transportation for individuals who lack transportation and require assistance in evacuating.


48 posted on 09/04/2005 9:13:43 AM PDT by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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36 posted on 09/04/2005 4:11:29 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Jamie Gorelick is responsible for more dead Americans(9-11) than those killed in Iraq.)
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Why does the Space Age Press have to do the Work of PravdABDNC???

Pray for W and Our Freedom Fighters

38 posted on 09/04/2005 4:13:03 PM PDT by bray (Pray for the Freedom of the Iraqis from Islam)
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Note that the Superdome was established as a Last-Ditch Refuge, not a shelter. This means it was designed to handle last minute walk-ins and those who couldn't evacuate and that those people were to be evacuated from the last-ditch refuge to a shelter once the hurricane passed. By their definition a last-ditch refuge only has supplies to last through the hurricane.

If they were expecting a Cat 5 that would flood the entire city, what was their plan to evacuate people from the Last-ditch refuge into a shelter? How - by boat? What shelter? What was their plan to shelter thousands of people for months?


40 posted on 09/04/2005 4:14:00 PM PDT by plain talk
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This picture of unused buses, which could have saved thousands had the Mayor used them, says it all about who is responsible.

41 posted on 09/04/2005 4:14:44 PM PDT by FOXFANVOX (Freedom is not free!)
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You can get a real sense of just how unprepared city officials were for the failure of the levees by checking out the New Orleans city web-site:

www.cityofno.com/portal.aspx

44 posted on 09/04/2005 4:16:13 PM PDT by Gee Wally
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You are expecting reponsible people to to act in a reasonable manner? Uh, never mind, the answer is obvious.


47 posted on 09/04/2005 4:19:20 PM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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Excellent research. The biggest single reason evacuation plans were not undertaken is that after the Ivan false alarm last year, the LA politicians took a lot of heat and they didn't want to repeat that situation.

IOW, for fear of political reprisal, there was a lack of decisive leadership in a crisis situation.

The conservative radio talk show folks will come back online in full force on Tuesday and that will provide a counter current to the MSM, who've had several days of propoganda dessimination unchallenged. Rush, Hannity and others will turn the tide and set the facts straight.


48 posted on 09/04/2005 4:19:39 PM PDT by randita
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Yowza.

Care to send this to ALL the news outlets, and the Republicans who have NO CLUE for talking points?

Well Done, Indeed, Sir!!

49 posted on 09/04/2005 4:20:13 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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Wouldn't FEMA have been responsible for sending help to the most devastated regions? And on Monday and early Tuesday those would heve been the gulf coast of Miss, particularly Gulfport and Biloxi. When you see an aerial view of NOLA the homes are under water, but they are still erect. An aerial view of the Miss gulf shows devastation like that of Andrew in Miami in 92. That's where Katrina hit and that's where the immediate need was. I saw on CNN in the late afternoon of Tuesday that the levees had failed. That made the situation completely different. Kind of like an army defending an attack from one direction only to be attacked on its flank. It would take time and organization to move divisions to counter a new threat. the same would apply to disaster relief.


50 posted on 09/04/2005 4:20:13 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (Peace, Love, Brotherhood, and Firepower. And the greatest of these is Firepower!)
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Why Didn't Louisiana Follow it's Required Emergency Plan?


I'll bite,


Tell us why!


52 posted on 09/04/2005 4:22:17 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (Vote for gridlock - Make the elected personally liable for their wasteful spending)
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Bookmarked


53 posted on 09/04/2005 4:23:06 PM PDT by Popman (In politics, ideas are more important than individuals.)
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Great research. This should be the basis for any future investigations.
54 posted on 09/04/2005 4:23:23 PM PDT by f zero
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Very good.


55 posted on 09/04/2005 4:23:31 PM PDT by eddie willers
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Great, great stuff. Thanks.


59 posted on 09/04/2005 4:25:34 PM PDT by goarmy (Red, white, and BOOM!)
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Excellent reference and summation PING!


60 posted on 09/04/2005 4:26:07 PM PDT by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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