Posted on 09/03/2005 1:44:14 PM PDT by Rebelbase
Rebuilding New Orleans below sea level is just asking for another disaster even if the levee's are strengthened.
Bulldoze the city except for the downtown and French Quarter and fill it in with spoils from Lake Ponchartrain. The lake is very shallow and could supply the material necessary to fill in the city.
This city is too important to national commerce to just abandon.
Disagree about the Fifth Circuit. That should be moved to Houston together with the Reserve Bank.
Six inches every 20 years into the abyss. Eventually, the Corps of Engineers will have to move the port to BR.
You thinks wrong. Even a 9.0 quake at New Madrid will barely get felt in New Orleans.
You mean drive in the dirt and compact it, and create a plateau? That is interesting, and was done with part of a peninsula near Oakland airport, where my brother lives. But they had to wait 15 years to build, because even with compaction, it takes some time for subsidence to subside. The planted trees however at the beginning of the 15 year wait, so they were nice and mature when building started. How clever. Maybe with new technologies, one does not have to wait.
Nice colors.
"How about draining Lake Pontchartrain into the Gulf, thus making New Orleans only vulnerable from the Mississippi levies, which has already been proven to withstand Katrina."
Or building a levee on the lake shore as big, or bigger, than the Mississpi levee. It will be an eyesore, and block view of the lake, but would withstand much more than the rickety and fragile system now.
Similarly, whatever possessed the people of Mississippi to force casinos to be afloat on a hurricane-prone coast?
The lefty looney Scientific American ressurected these from years ago...
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0002F651-768F-1314-AE7183414B7F0122
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&articleID=00060286-CB58-1315-8B5883414B7F0000
http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=0001A913-EAE9-1315-AAE983414B7F0100
Build New New Orleans - somewhere else.
"Similarly, whatever possessed the people of Mississippi to force casinos to be afloat on a hurricane-prone coast?"
$$$ $$$ $$$ $$$ $$$
UHHHHH, I think the prediction of the Great Lakes sloshing like a very overfilled bathtub and pouring down the Mississippi valley to the gulf and forevermore emptying into the gulf
IS AN ACCURATE PREDICTION as near as I can sense such things.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE I WILL LIVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN--if the news will show such and I believe it will at least in some areas or on the net somehow.
I do not think that New Orleans would survive such a massive flood. And, if the quake is 10.X as some have alluded to . . . what do you think then?
I rather agree about Houston. But I believe it is going to take some sort of massive terrorist hit. Don't know what kind or how devastating but plenty.
Bulldoze the city except for the downtown and French Quarter and fill it in with spoils from Lake Ponchartrain. The lake is very shallow and could supply the material necessary to fill in the city.
You mean drive in the dirt and compact it, and create a plateau? That is interesting, and was done with part of a peninsula near Oakland airport, where my brother lives. But they had to wait 15 years to build, because even with compaction, it takes some time for subsidence to subside. The planted trees however at the beginning of the 15 year wait, so they were nice and mature when building started. How clever. Maybe with new technologies, one does not have to wait.
Yes, that's basically what I have in mind. What I'm saying is that there is exceedingly little reason to rush to rebuild the slums, which covered a considerable portion of the low lying areas. They can get the valuable parts of the city up and running within 6 months to a year easily. The rest can be carefully reengineered to end the flood threat at anywhere near this magnitude.
We have the capability to build in the ocean shallows now if we want. It's being done in Holland, Japan, Hong Kong, and to a smaller scale in other places. We should seize the moment and turn this tragedy into an opportunity to rebuild New Orleans the way it would be if it were just built today, and today we could build it in a way to withstand hurricanes just as well as any other city on the Gulf (keep in mind that the entire northern Gulf coast is subsiding, not just New Orleans).
Get the Port and the riverside stretch from Uptown to Bywater up and running. The poor, huddled masses will end up resettling in Houston and elsewhere regardless (just wait, most won't go back). The surrounding parishes have more than enough of labor base to support the remnant of New Orleans, and much of the area that's flooded wasn't contributing much anyhow (except to welfare rolls..) Then raise the marshes to 5 feet above sea level, and then raise the riverside as well in sections (jack up the buildings, etc).
If that were done, it'd be 1000 years or more before the city might again be in the state it is today.
Flood it as a merge with Ponchartrain, then set up access from this nice waterway into the Might Miss. from the French Quarter.
Next, go industrial only with whatever high ground is left. Forget the low lying areas and move all residential north of the new improved industrial area.
That prediction is the most ridiculous, ignorant, outright lunatic prediction I've ever seen, and I've seen some doozies.
IS AN ACCURATE PREDICTION as near as I can sense such things.
You need help.
I FIRMLY BELIEVE I WILL LIVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN--if the news will show such and I believe it will at least in some areas or on the net somehow.
Immediately.
I do not think that New Orleans would survive such a massive flood. And, if the quake is 10.X as some have alluded to . . . what do you think then?
New Orleans would survive a 10.0 magnitude quake at New Madrid with relatively minimal damage (Memphis & St Louis would be rubble). You still need help.
Hong Kong, Holland, Japan etc don't get cat 4 and 5 hurricanes (well maybe Hong Kong does, I don't know), and Japan and Hong Kong are not under sea level, and there is a direct line to higher ground. NO would still be an island.
The flooded structures are perfect fish habitat. Enterpising businessman could offer underwater guided tours!
On a different subject, I would move the Center for Disease Control out of Atlanta immediately to a safer more remote location.
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