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I can see the NG point. They got to get people out of there. Still, there would be more people surviving to get out with some food and water coming in
1 posted on 09/03/2005 9:53:18 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: SauronOfMordor

I was on a line in Kmart yesterday with a woman who's husband works with a cleanup company.

She said, he couldn't go in until the area is secure. Then she said she probably won't see him for a year.


34 posted on 09/03/2005 10:31:00 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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Judging from the PR grovel fest on TV, the Red Cross is looking for a PR opportunity.

A way they can serve a $1000 soup kitchen with $25,000 worth of "administrative costs".


38 posted on 09/03/2005 10:48:02 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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The administration really has to explain to the nation what is going on and why things take as long as they do. The media is really driving home the pack of lies about the response time and the public at large is getting pissy. Some conservative talkers are even pounding this point about slow federal response and the president should address it soon or he will be rendered useless.
39 posted on 09/03/2005 10:48:10 AM PDT by satchmodog9 (Murder and weather are our only news)
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Refugee - Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers

We got some thin’ we both know it,
We don’t talk too much about it
Ain’t no real big secret, all the same,
Somehow we get around it

Listen, it don’t really matter to me
Baby, you believe what you wanna believe
You see, you don’t have to live like a refugee

Somewhere, somehow, somebody must have
Kicked you around some
Tell me why you wanna lay there,
Revel in your abandon

Honey, it don’t make no difference to me
Baby, everybody’s had to fight to be fre e
You see, you don’t have to live like a refugee
No baby, you don’t have to live like a refugee

Baby, we ain’t the first
I’m sure a lot of other lovers been burned
Right now this ain’t real to you
It’s one of those things you got to feel to be true

Somewhere, somehow, somebody must have
Kicked you around some
Who knows, maybe you were kidnapped,
Tied-up, taken away, and held for ransom

Honey, it don’t really matter to me
Baby, everybody’s ha d to fight to be free
You see, you don’t have to live like a refugee
No, you don’t have to live like a refugee
Baby, you don’t have to live like a refugee


40 posted on 09/03/2005 10:49:49 AM PDT by Theophilus (Save Little Democrats, Stop Abortion)
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The red cross is upset cause they can't upgrade their phone system and donor list and give more money to the International Red Cross to visit Gitmo or Abu Grab.

Blank the red cross can't even collect blood right.

41 posted on 09/03/2005 10:53:49 AM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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Someone please give reason why they have kept out the ham radio people who have traditionally provided communication links when no one else could.

It sounds like deliberate something by the inept Homeland Security people.


43 posted on 09/03/2005 10:57:22 AM PDT by Spirited
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"Still, there would be more people surviving to get out with some food and water coming in..."

Maybe not. If they bring the food in without getting the people out then many may just return to their neighborhoods to either try to pick up their lives if home is there or move into a shantee nearby with their loot. This would cause even more deaths due to the likelyhood of disease or the possibility of one of the anticipated near future storms hitting NO again resulting in drowning of anyone who stayed behind.

Everyone needs to get out first then we can all argue about the timetable for residential return and if they are ever allowed to stay to resettle.

44 posted on 09/03/2005 10:59:36 AM PDT by gnarledmaw (I traded freedom for security and all I got were these damned shackles.)
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People should be brought out of NOLA, not kept there. Water is the essential that must be brought to those still stranded, until they can be moved safely -- so many people don't understand that in an extreme emergency water is the essential (most people won't live more than 3 or so days without any), while food in such a situation is, yes, non-essential, more of a comfort than a necessity. Of course no one wants to be hungry, but people (unless they have certain medical conditions such as diabetes) can live for weeks on water or juice, etc. I'm not saying for a moment that everyone still in NOLA doesn't need ample food as soon as possible, just that Homeland Security is probably quite right in not wanting to set up a meals operation in NOLA that might well keep people there in such terrible conditions, when what's really needed is to bring them out.


54 posted on 09/03/2005 12:41:43 PM PDT by Enchante
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Security is so bad that she fears feeding stations might get ransacked.

Her fears are well founded.

55 posted on 09/03/2005 2:44:53 PM PDT by SuziQ
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