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Murder and Mayhem in New Orlean's Miserable Shelter: Lessons from the Dome
Reuters ^ | September 2, 2005 | Mark Egan

Posted on 09/03/2005 3:44:24 AM PDT by Liberty Ship

Valenti and her husband, two of very few white people in the almost exclusively black refugee camp, said she and other whites were threatened with murder on Thursday.

"They hated us. Four young black men told us the buses were going to come last night and pick up the elderly so they were going to kill us," she said, sobbing. "They were plotting to murder us and then they sent the buses away because we would all be killed if the buses came -- that's what the people in charge told us this morning."

Other survivors recounted horrific cases of sexual assault and murder.

Sitting with her daughter and other relatives, Trolkyn Joseph, 37, said men had wandered the cavernous convention center in recent nights raping and murdering children.

She said she found a dead 14-year old girl at 5 a.m. on Friday morning, four hours after the young girl went missing from her parents inside the convention center.

"She was raped for four hours until she was dead," Joseph said through tears. "Another child, a seven-year old boy was found raped and murdered in the kitchen freezer last night."

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bang; katrina; neworleans
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To: Archidamus
"Showering? Or bathing?

I guess you can kinda shower in a urinal and bathe in a toilet. That info was reported by Greta on Fox News BTW.

221 posted on 09/03/2005 7:25:28 AM PDT by WestCoastGal (Thank you JR for pulling this limping team across the finish in 9th place)
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To: CindyDawg
There was an interview with 2 police offices that said something like conditions were so bad that they left for their own safety.

Contrast this to the wonderful police and fire departments of NY when 9/11 struck there. Instead of running away, they ran into danger because they had leadership at the top - Rudi! This is why, especially in times of tragedy, I'll NEVER give up my guns and surrender my right to self defense.

222 posted on 09/03/2005 7:26:16 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: tomjohn77

The state governor is a white woman. The city mayor is a black man.


223 posted on 09/03/2005 7:27:06 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
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To: uncbob

"I am surprised REUTERS reported this"

Read the second to last paragraph of the source article and you wont be surprised.


224 posted on 09/03/2005 7:28:56 AM PDT by nairBResal
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To: Dems_R_Losers
I saw where they have a program where 18,000 apartments will be made available to the folks in the Astrodome. They are in the process of getting some red tape removed so that it can happen quickly.
225 posted on 09/03/2005 7:30:47 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
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To: Archidamus

Yea, all those other horrors are “secondary”.


226 posted on 09/03/2005 7:31:29 AM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: elfman2
Sure, pre-hurricane, there were no rapes, robberies, or murders in New Orleans.
227 posted on 09/03/2005 7:33:46 AM PDT by Archidamus (We are wise because we are not so highly educated as to look down on our laws and customs)
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To: tomjohn77

Who gets to design and score the test? However the test is designed, there will be allegations of bias.


228 posted on 09/03/2005 7:51:24 AM PDT by Huber (Pray deeply for the victims of Katrina, and shoot the looters and marauders on sight.)
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To: Archidamus
" Sure, pre-hurricane, there were no rapes, robberies, or murders in New Orleans. "

What dumb-a~s you’ve made of yourself. You don’t like what I said, can’t dispute it, but you so want to argue with it that you make up things that no rational person would recognize that I said or implied so that you can argue with that.

229 posted on 09/03/2005 7:51:44 AM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: MNJohnnie

Gov. Mindo Blanko is way out of her depth on this one. However, I am curious. What authority does the President have in a situation like this. Can he send in troops without a request from the state Governor?


230 posted on 09/03/2005 7:56:36 AM PDT by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: 2nd amendment mama

Correct.


231 posted on 09/03/2005 7:59:26 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored

and yet they will re-elect him.


232 posted on 09/03/2005 8:02:58 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: Muzzle_em
and yet they will re-elect him.

I wouldn't be surprised by that at all, but if I pondered it for too long, I'd get too depressed to continue typing...

233 posted on 09/03/2005 8:06:56 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: elfman2

I'd put money on it.
they were both white


234 posted on 09/03/2005 8:07:14 AM PDT by Muzzle_em (I'm an island awash in a sea of stupidity)
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To: Liberty Ship

235 posted on 09/03/2005 8:08:42 AM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans.)
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To: Archidamus
How many white people do you have doing drive by shootings

There was a rash of stabbings a few years back in my home town. My home town is predominantly white. Both the stabbers and stabbed reflected this, both being predominantly druken white men who graduated from fighting with broken beer bottles. If I were you, I could use this to imply that white people are violent knife fighters who shouldn't be allowed to drink beer. In fact many of the people were subsequently caught... so incarceration rates for those crimes reflect this hypothesis. Lying with stats is easy.

We don't have many drive by shootings in here, but since you seem more concerned with the color of the shooter than the actual shootings... if the shooters were white people, would the shooting be more or less palatable to you?
236 posted on 09/03/2005 8:16:15 AM PDT by crail (Better lives have been lost on the gallows than have ever been enshrined in the halls of palaces.)
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To: Churchillspirit
Gov. Mindo Blanko is way out of her depth on this one. However, I am curious. What authority does the President have in a situation like this. Can he send in troops without a request from the state Governor?

Not LAW ENFORCEMENT troops unless they changed something in the Home Land Security act that I am unaware of. He can, and is, sending more troops but they will be civil affairs type troops not combat arms. He is stuck in a perfect Catch 22 vilified for not doing something he legally cannot do while the REAL villains Mayor Nagel and Gov Blanco dance around screaming CYA pap to the eager ears of the mythically "objective" Dinosaur Press. The City has to tell the STATE what they need. I mean think about it. The CITY is at the point of disaster. How the hell can the State or Feds KNOW what is needed until the CITY Govt. TELLS them? It would appeared Mayor Nagel did not, until WENSDAY, ask for law enforcement support. Then Ms Blanco sends in a patetic 300 THREE ZERO ZERO armed NG troops THURSDAY to restore order. The State has to use it law enforcement and NG assets to address the physical security rudiments for FEMA. FEMA has no Law Enforcement powers. If the State feels it has insufficient resources, it can request additional NG support from any of the other 49 states. What can, but is hardly ever actually been done, is the State can ask for REGULAR Military troops from the Feds. I guess you could make an argument that Bush could declare a collapse of Civil Authority but with the Mayor and the Gov running around giving press briefs, be legally indefensible. You know dang well Ms Nancy and the hysteric in the Black Congressional Caucus would have a bill of Impeachment on the House floor Monday if he did it. I cannot manage anything more calculated to inflame the Hysteric Left then Pres Bush over riding the legal authority of a Democrat Black Mayor and a Dem Female Governor. Then instead of "Too little too late" it would be "Racist sexist cowboy acts unilaterally AGAIN".

One other quick note. The Pres can send in the troops if the State Gov is acting in defiance of Federal Authority. Eisenhower, a REPUBLICAN, sent in the troops in 1956 to LITTLE ROCK ARKANSAS to slap down a DEMOCRAT Governor who was using the National Guard to prevent implementation of a Supreme Court order on School Segregation.

237 posted on 09/03/2005 8:22:32 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Why will Louisiana Governor Blanco NOT ask Bush for Marines and Army Troops????)
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To: Leapfrog

Fantastic article - A MUST READ!!!!


238 posted on 09/03/2005 8:24:51 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama ( www.2asisters.org • Self defense is a basic human right!)
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To: 2harddrive
Has anyone heard if the CANNABILISM reported Friday by Randall Robertson, liberal black activist and president of Transafrica, is true?

NO. It takes longer then 3 days for cannabilism to break out. This is just more Hysteria from the Hate American Left. I mean, look how much media attention this Liberal wack job got just by screaming the accusation?

239 posted on 09/03/2005 8:27:39 AM PDT by MNJohnnie ( Why will Louisiana Governor Blanco NOT ask Bush for Marines and Army Troops????)
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To: Huber
And your children and you are to be applauded for your and their pilgrimmage, our future lies with them. I understand the starve the beast approach, and I do not disagree with it. I have had my daughter do a hybrid. She homeschools in the summer in an online Catholic/Christian homeschool site: Agnus Dei/Regina Coeli-two separate education forums which share academic resources but educate in theology independent of each other. A great site with wonderful curriculuum (sp?).

I agree, our kids will be together in college; making a difference and evangelizing together.

V's wife.

240 posted on 09/03/2005 8:32:26 AM PDT by ventana
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