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Can someone please explain the responsibility Gov. Blanco had relative to the Louisiana National Guard? Why is the President being blamed for a late response, when the governor should have ordered her National Guard units to rescue people, deliver food and water, and keep the peace.
1 posted on 09/02/2005 11:05:36 PM PDT by doug from upland
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49 posted on 09/02/2005 11:40:39 PM PDT by nopardons
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i think Blanko was politically chicken (as a white person) to bring the NG and their guns into her city of black persons. Fearing she'd be blamed for bullying them. Not expecting of course that the situation would go from bad ("oh let them steal food") to worse (OMG they've got the police under seige). A purely selfish political decision imo. Not caring at all for "her people".


50 posted on 09/02/2005 11:40:42 PM PDT by uncitizen
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From this transcript of a 8/28/05 CNN interview with Nagin re: Katrina.........

KAYE: And what is the situation, before I let you go here, what is the situation with the national guard? Because from what I understand, a lot of your national guard is in Iraq. So is the shortage going to affect you?

NAGIN: We're not thinking that it's going to affect us. We just spoke with the general over the national guard and he has 1,500 troops ready to be deployed, with another couple of thousand that they can tap into pretty quickly.

64 posted on 09/02/2005 11:52:49 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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Doug,
The LA Governor's official business website is full of smoking guns. http://www.gov.state.la.us/

First: Governor Blanco's letter requesting specific help from POTUS - wholly devoid of any military request - just asking for job assistance, housing, and cash. http://www.gov.state.la.us/Disaster%20Relief%20Request.pdf

Second: A list of LA Governor executive orders through Sep 2, 2005. Completely missing here are instructions to the citizenry or militia.

Third: On this official LA Governor's website, political sniping against President Bush.
67 posted on 09/02/2005 11:56:17 PM PDT by XHogPilot (Islam is The Death Cult)
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Republicans are bad and Democrats are good


77 posted on 09/03/2005 12:07:13 AM PDT by woofie
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The charges that the President cut funding for the levee projects because of the war in Iraq, and that caused this catastrophe was debunked --

"These (projects) were not funded at the full ability of the Corps of Engineers to execute the project," said Lt. Gen. Carl Strock, commander of the Army Corps of Engineers. "But the important question is, 'Would that have made a difference?' And my assessment is, no, it would not."

Now, it appears that it was Gov. Blanco who did not have her National Guard deliver food and water for 3-4 days.

82 posted on 09/03/2005 12:14:52 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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Crosslinking:

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92 posted on 09/03/2005 12:24:08 AM PDT by backhoe (-30-)
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Doug, I'm a retired senior officer of the CA National Guard. I've worked several years, both active duty and guard, working with and creating concept and operational planning documents. Additionally, I have worked on staff to numerous Inspector General evaluations as well as worn numerous "hats" as a local inspector.

Regardless of the state, the National Guard is under the command of the respective Governor. It would be beyond extraordinary for it to act outside the Governor's direct command. That would include mustering the force, orders for movement, assignment of tasks, and return to garrison/release.

All signs point to the information in Species8472 reply 34 as right on. Orders from the Governor of LA to her Adjutant General will be a matter of public record. Orders would be available through the Adjutant General's office. Lack or such public record would indicate no orders were provided.

I'll don't know if I'm willing to take the time to critique LA Emergency Plans, but the basis for all this should be spelled out in documents linked by Wild Irish Rogue reply 35. A quick review of the New Orleans evacuation plans reveal a concept plan only when an operational plan was needed. For example, the plan utterly fails to highlight limiting factors (weak links). For example: Directs increased attention to critical roadway intersections without naming them. Directs NOPD to door-to-door notify and recover disabled persons not able to evac on their own - obviously never tested and failed in this attempt. Just as telling, check this wikipedia link including a Gov Blanco quote to get a taste of how "off the cuff" this whole operation was: The same morning of August 29, 2005, during an interview on ABC news, Governor Kathleen Blanco called the Superdome shelter strategy an "experiment", when asked if it could hold the storm or the flood.

Finally, did you see this earlier FR post?
Louisiana Gov. Kathleen Blanco said that President Bush had called and urged the state to order the evacuation. links this excellent cached CNN article New Orleans Orders Evacuation, Hurricane Katrina's winds nearly 175 mph Sunday, 28Aug2005 11:47 a.m. EDT (15:47 GMT). Post apocalypse, its fully indicting of NO Mayor and LA Governor...

107 posted on 09/03/2005 1:38:51 AM PDT by XHogPilot (Islam is The Death Cult)
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Why is the President being blamed for a late response,

Because he is a Republican and the MSM are notorious liars. I talked to a friend in Louisiana today and she was wanting someone to tell the nation the truth...New Orleans has always been run by Democrats as has a large percentage of the state. Gov. Blanco is out of her element, and Nagin is a 'blowhard' who is a total embarrassment to the state. Had it not been for President Bush asking them to order a mandate evacuation, the situation would have been far worse. Nagin needs to explain why school buses sat there and were ruined by the flood instead of being used to evacuate the poor in New Orleans before Katrina came ashore and the levees broke.

108 posted on 09/03/2005 1:53:26 AM PDT by PeskyOne
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This woman is going to go down in history as one of the most incompotent ditzhead to ever hold elective office. She wasn't proactive. She was weepy. She was.....a typical Democrat.


110 posted on 09/03/2005 2:24:04 AM PDT by GungaLaGunga
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Blanco was probably not elected by the voters in LA because she was effective at getting things done quickly. The people of LA who voted for her just got delivery on the conseqences of their voting, and so did the rest of the citizens living there.


121 posted on 09/03/2005 5:16:23 AM PDT by Modok
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This seems to be the thread to visit for substantive information.

Thank you all.

133 posted on 09/03/2005 6:38:43 AM PDT by verity (Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
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and what did the gorvernor know, and when did he know it? :P


149 posted on 09/03/2005 9:49:54 AM PDT by Cinnamon
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The President is free to call out the National Guard during a national emergency at any time. The President may also put the Secretary of The Department of Homeland Security in charge of a national disaster at his discretion. The DHS' National Response Plan makes this clear, as do FEMA regulations, as does the history of the deployment of the National Guard, as does the legal status of a "state of emergency," which was declared by both Blanco and the federal government. As does common sense! If the President of the United States had to sit around waiting for local officials' permission to do anything during a national emergency, well, why even bother to have a president? It's the president's most basic job to act proactively during a national emergency, no matter what local officials are doing or not doing.


164 posted on 09/05/2005 6:29:47 PM PDT by nascardaughter
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Can someone please explain the responsibility Gov. Blanco had relative to the Louisiana National Guard? Why is the President being blamed for a late response, when the governor should have ordered her National Guard units to rescue people, deliver food and water, and keep the peace.

Because Shep Smith stood on a bridge for days and blamed the feds which always translates into "it's Bush's fault".

167 posted on 09/05/2005 6:50:45 PM PDT by McGavin999 (Global Dumbing far more serious threat than Global Warming)
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