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Fact Check: Is Bush to Blame for New Orleans Flooding?
FactCheck. Org ^ | 9/02/2005 | Fact Check Staff

Posted on 09/02/2005 7:29:49 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound

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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

There was a guy on with Aaron Brown tonight who actually worked on this commission about the levees.

He said that if Bush had given them $100,000,000 the day he took office, it STILL would not have changed one damn thing.

In fact, the levees that breached were NOT even the ones that the people in NO claimed needed fixing.


61 posted on 09/02/2005 9:07:44 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

So, it's you writing that in all the bathroom stalls!


62 posted on 09/02/2005 9:11:08 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Kay

To emphasize the correctness in saying that politics will make big decisions like this, recall this HISTORICAL FACT!

In 1998, the DoD and the US Army Corps of Engineers drafted a document detailing the fact that New Orleans was protected by levees which were designed to protect N.O. from a LEVEL 3 hurricane. These groups wanted to go into N.O. and assess what needed to be done to improve the levees to at least withstand a LEVEL 4 OR 5 hurricane.

This serious request and supporting information was deemed highly necessary to protect N.O. and was presented in full to the President of the United States for approval of this critical project.

THE REQUEST WAS DENIED BY WILLIAM JEFFERSON CLINTON. For those interested in the details, they are available in the FEDERAL REGISTER as a matter of permanent record.

So, how many more deaths do we attribute to this horrid excuse for a criminal, negligent, incompetent excuse for a human being ???

In summary, politics in critical situations, usually costs lives, it always has.



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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474414/posts


77 posted on 09/01/2005 8:48:42 AM EDT by Uncle Donuts (The sooner I can leave N. Va., the better.)

63 posted on 09/02/2005 9:13:20 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: dts32041

LOL.


64 posted on 09/02/2005 9:15:15 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Ron in Acreage

Was that the guy talking to Aaron Brown?


65 posted on 09/02/2005 9:16:10 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: combat_boots

I've only heard Col. Hunt (On O'Reilly) say that the Gov. of La. NEVER 'pulled the trigger' to request Fed. assistance. Correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't the Gov. of any State have to request help in order receive Fed. help? From what I understand, NG troops from one State cannot enter another State without being requested by said state's Gov. Correct? If what I've heard from Col. Hunt is correct, how can the MSM continue to critize the President and his response time. This is really bothering me and if anyone can set me straight I'd appreciate it.


66 posted on 09/02/2005 9:17:12 PM PDT by maineman
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To: Echo Talon
Right. Rudy Giuliani took command during 9/11. Ray Nagin cried in New Orleans.

Says it all.

67 posted on 09/02/2005 9:19:43 PM PDT by Euro-American Scum (A poverty-stricken middle class must be a disarmed middle class)
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To: Howlin
I know this, when I built my house I looked for a bed of quicksand to build it on but couldest find one so I tried the flood plain areas, those were not wet enough so I just built in in the swimming pool. I put up a curb around the pool so if it doesn't rain more than 40 days I should be ok. I can always loot the neighbors house and whine on camera to Sheppard Smith as tears roll down his smooth shaven face and Geraldo screaming that I am trapped and why isn't anyone taking care of ol' Tex.
68 posted on 09/02/2005 9:20:20 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: maineman
Cause he is a pubbie and the gov is a demo rat and a stupid on e at that.

Wonder what would have happened if the pubbie had one.

After all his family had seen a few of these up close and personal in India.

What most people fail to realize a Typhoon can put a hurricane to shame.

69 posted on 09/02/2005 9:21:44 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: Texasforever

ROFLMAO..........I really, really needed that laugh today!


70 posted on 09/02/2005 9:25:01 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

No surprise there. They've been desperate for an issue to run on for a long time. And they always want power.


71 posted on 09/02/2005 9:25:20 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
According to the wacko left, Bush and Rove planned 9/11 so it is safe to assume that soon the old media formerly known as Puffy MSM, formerly known as P Diddy MSM, and now known as who gives a sh%^t MSM will break the headline news that the Bushies have invented a storm machine and unleashed it on minorities. New Orleans was the testing ground for their new toy.
72 posted on 09/02/2005 9:25:27 PM PDT by TheForceOfOne (The alternative media is our Enigma machine.)
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To: Howlin

Quick work. You are adept at locating information! Thanks.


73 posted on 09/02/2005 9:25:55 PM PDT by Kay
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To: maineman

Yes. The Gov. is in CHARGE of the NGB, as they are technically STATE employees, but under military command structure. Governors invite other states' units in as well, ususally in joint exercises, if you'll recall.

Go back. Remember places like Kent State in Ohio. Rhoades in Ohio called out the National Guard.....NOT the Pres.

So, while military units are activated and commanded under national structure, the civilian command of the state for the NGB rules deployment.


74 posted on 09/02/2005 9:32:07 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: Hendrix

Clymer, the guy Bush called a "major league a-hole" in 2000.

Cheney replied, "Big Time!"


75 posted on 09/02/2005 9:32:14 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: combat_boots

"technically STATE employees"

Check that. Too fast on my facts there. We were talking about that today........


76 posted on 09/02/2005 9:34:18 PM PDT by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: Kay

Here's some more help:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1475305/posts


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1474591/posts?page=29#29



77 posted on 09/02/2005 9:35:01 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: Euro-American Scum

Ray Nagin, B**ch, moan, complain, blame, belly-ache,cry...


78 posted on 09/02/2005 9:35:11 PM PDT by Echo Talon (http://echotalon.blogspot.com)
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To: Peach

Interesting that the study just covers the Bush administration and nothing before. The annual $3 to $5 million is chicken feed. Anyone who understands the federal budget process knows that a US agency rarely receives what it requests. OMB reduces it and then Congress adds to it, especially quasi-pork projects like this one. It would be interesting to track the total funding for the NO levee system over the past decade or so. I suspect that this has been an ongoing project for more than 20 years.


79 posted on 09/02/2005 9:51:32 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

If the Senators or congress persons from NO asked for money they would have got it. The President did not veto anything.
So did they? I do not know. They know better than anyone what their state needs.


80 posted on 09/02/2005 9:59:55 PM PDT by Brimack34
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