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Fact Check: Is Bush to Blame for New Orleans Flooding?
FactCheck. Org ^ | 9/02/2005 | Fact Check Staff

Posted on 09/02/2005 7:29:49 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound

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Is Bush to Blame for New Orleans Flooding?

He did slash funding for levee projects. But the Army Corps of Engineers says Katrina was just too strong.

September 2, 2005

Modified: September 2, 2005

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Summary

 

Some critics are suggesting President Bush was as least partly responsible for the flooding in New Orleans. In a widely quoted opinion piece, former Clinton aide Sidney Blumenthal says that "the damage wrought by the hurricane may not entirely be the result of an act of nature," and cites years of reduced funding for federal flood-control projects around New Orleans.

Our fact-checking confirms that Bush indeed cut funding for projects specifically designed to strengthen levees. Indeed, local officials had been complaining about that for years.

It is not so clear whether the money Bush cut from levee projects would have made any difference, however, and we're not in a position to judge that. The Army Corps of Engineers – which is under the President's command and has its own reputation to defend – insists that Katrina was just too strong, and that even if the levee project had been completed it was only designed to withstand a category 3 hurricane.

Analysis

 

We suspect this subject will get much more attention in Congress and elsewhere in the coming months. Without blaming or absolving Bush, here are the key facts we've been able to establish so far:

Bush Cut Funding

Blumenthal's much-quoted article in salon.com carried the headline: "No one can say they didn't see it coming."  And it said the Bush administration cut flood-control funding "to pay for the Iraq war."

He continues:

Blumenthal: With its main levee broken, the evacuated city of New Orleans has become part of the Gulf of Mexico . But the damage wrought by the hurricane may not entirely be the result of an act of nature.

…By 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. Additional cuts at the beginning of this year…forced the New Orleans district of the Corps to impose a hiring freeze.

We can confirm that funding was cut. The project most closely associated with preventing flooding in New Orleans was the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ Hurricane Protection Project, which was “designed to protect residents between Lake Pontchartrain and the Missisippi River levee from surges in Lake Pontchartrain,” according to a fact sheet from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers. (The fact sheet is dated May 23, long before Katrina). The multi-decade project involved building new levees, enlarging existing levees, and updating other protections like floodwalls. It was scheduled to be completed in 2015.

Over at least the past several budget cycles, the Corps has received substantially less money than it requested for the Lake Pontchartrain project, even though Congress restored much of the money the President cut from the amount the Corps requested.

In fiscal year 2004, the Corps requested $11 million for the project. The President’s budget allocated $3 million, and Congress furnished $5.5 million. Similarly, in fiscal 2005 the Corps requested $22.5 million, which the President cut to $3.9 million in his budget. Congress increased that to $5.5 million. “This was insufficient to fund new construction contracts,” according to a U.S. Army Corps of Engineers’ project fact sheet. The Corps reported that “seven new contracts are being delayed due to lack funds” [sic].

The President proposed $3 million for the project in the budget for fiscal 2006, which begins Oct. 1. “This will be insufficient to fund new construction projects,” the fact sheet stated. It says the Corps “could spend $20 million if funds were provided.” The Corps of Engineers goes on to say:

Army Corps of Engineers, May 23: In Orleans Parish, two major pump stations are threatened by hurricane storm surges. Major contracts need to be awarded to provide fronting protection for them. Also, several levees have settled and need to be raised to provide the design protection. The current funding shortfalls in fiscal year 2005 and fiscal year 2006 will prevent the Corps from addressing these pressing needs.

The Corps has seen cutbacks beyond those affecting just the Lake Pontchartrain project. The Corps oversees SELA, or the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control project, which Congress authorized after six people died from flooding in May 1995. The Times-Picayune newspaper of New Orleans reported that, overall, the Corps had spent $430 million on flood control and hurricane prevention, with local governments offering more than $50 million toward the project. Nonetheless, "at least $250 million in crucial projects remained," the newspaper said. 

In the past five years, the amount of money spent on all Corps construction projects in the New Orleans district has declined  by 44 percent, according to the New Orleans CityBusiness newspaper, from $147 million in 2001 to $82 million in the current fiscal year, which ends Sept. 30.

A long history of complaints

Local officials had long complained that funding for hurricane protection projects was inadequate:

Walter Maestri: It appears that the money has been moved in the president’s budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq , and I suppose that’s the price we pay. Nobody locally is happy that the levees can’t be finished, and we are doing everything we can to make the case that this is a security issue for us.

Would Increased Funding Have Prevented Flooding?

Blumenthal implies that increased funding might have helped to prevent the catastrophic flooding that New Orleans now faces. The White House denies that, and the Corps of Engineers says that even the levee project they were working to complete was not designed to withstand a storm of Katrina's force.

White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, at a press briefing on September 1, dismissed the idea that the President inadequately funded flood control projects in New Orleans :

McClellan: Flood control has been a priority of this administration from day one. We have dedicated an additional $300 million over the last few years for flood control in New Orleans and the surrounding area. And if you look at the overall funding levels for the Army Corps of Engineers, they have been slightly above $4.5 billion that has been signed by the President.

Q: Local people were asking for more money over the last couple of years. They were quoted in local papers in 2003 and 2004, are saying that they were told by federal officials there wasn't enough money because it was going to Iraq expenditures.

McClellan: You might want to talk to General Strock, who is the commander of the Army Corps of Engineers, because I think he's talked to some reporters already and talked about some of these issues. I think some people maybe have tried to make a suggestion or imply that certain funding would have prevented the flooding from happening, and he has essentially said there's been nothing to suggest that whatsoever, and it's been more of a design issue with the levees.

We asked the Corps about that  “design issue.”  David Hewitt, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers, said McClellan was referring to the fact that “the levees were designed for a category 3 hurricane.” He told us that, consequently, “when it became apparent that this was a category 5 hurricane, an evacuation of the city was ordered.” (A category 3 storm has sustained winds of no more than 130  miles per hour, while a category 5 storm has winds exceeding 155 miles per hour. Katrina had winds of 160 mph as it approached shore, but later weakened to winds of 140 mph as it made landfall, making it a strong category 4 storm, according to the National Hurricane Center.)

The levee upgrade project around Lake Pontchartrain was only 60 to 90 percent complete across most areas of New Orleans as of the end of May, according to the Corps' May 23 fact sheet. Still, even if it had been completed, the project's goal was protecting New Orleans from storm surges up to "a fast-moving Category 3 hurricane,” according to the fact sheet.

We don't know whether the levees would have done better had the work been completed. But the Corps says that even a completed levee project wasn't designed for the storm that actually occurred.

Nobody anticipated breach of the levees?

In an interview on ABC’s “Good Morning America” on September 1, President Bush said:

Bush: I don’t think anyone anticipated breach of the levees …Now we’re having to deal with it, and will.

Bush is technically correct that a "breach" wasn't anticipated by the Corps, but that's doesn't mean the flooding wasn't forseen. It was.  But the Corps thought it would happen differently, from water washing over the levees, rather than cutting wide breaks in them.

Greg Breerword, a deputy district engineer for project management with the Army Corps of Engineers, told the New York Times:

Breerword: We knew if it was going to be a Category 5, some levees and some flood walls would be overtopped. We never did think they would actually be breached.

And while Bush is also technically correct that the Corps did not "anticipate" a breach – in the sense that they believed it was a likely event – at least some in the Corps thought a breach was a possibility worth examining.

According to the Times-Picayune, early in Bush's first term FEMA director Joe Allbaugh ordered a sophisticated computer simulation of what would happen if a category 5 storm hit New Orleans. Joseph Suhayda, an engineer at Louisana State University who worked on the project, described to the newspaper in 2002 what the simulation showed could happen:

Subhayda: Another scenario is that some part of the levee would fail. It's not something that's expected. But erosion occurs, and as levees broke, the break will get wider and wider. The water will flow through the city and stop only when it reaches the next higher thing. The most continuous barrier is the south levee, along the river. That's 25 feet high, so you'll see the water pile up on the river levee.

Whether or not a "breach" was "anticipated," the fact is that many individuals have been warning for decades about the threat of flooding that a hurricane could pose to a set below sea level and sandwiched between major waterways. A Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) report from before September 11, 2001 detailed the three most likely catastrophic disasters that could happen in the United States: a terrorist attack in New York, a strong earthquake in San Francisco, and a hurricane strike in New Orleans. In 2002, New Orleans officials held the simulation of what would happen in a category 5 storm. Walter Maestri, the emergency coordinator of Jefferson Parish in New Orleans , recounted the outcome to PBS’ NOW With Bill Moyers:

Maestri, September 2002: Well, when the exercise was completed it was evidence that we were going to lose a lot of people. We changed the name of the [simulated] storm from Delaney to K-Y-A-G-B... kiss your ass goodbye... because anybody who was here as that category five storm came across... was gone.

--by Matthew Barge

Sources

 

Sidney Blumenthal, “No one can say they didn’t see it coming ,” salon.com, 31 August 2005

Deon Roberts, “Bush budget not expected to diminish New Orleans district’s $65 million,” New Orleans CityBusiness, 07 February 2005

Manuel Torres, “Flood work to slow down; Corps delays new projects,” Times-Picayune, 13 October 2001

Mark Schlefistein, “Corps sees its resources siphoned off; Wetlands restoration officials sent to Iraq ,” Times-Picayune, 24 April 2004

“Mark Schleifstein, “Ivan stirs up wave of safety proposals; Hurricane-proofed stadium is one idea,” Times-Picayune, 22 September 2004

Deon Roberts, “Bush budget not expected to diminish New Orleans district’s $65 million ,” New Orleans CityBusiness, 07 February 2005

Mark Schleifstein, “Bush budget cuts levee, drainage funds; Backlog of contracts waits to be awarded,” Times-Picayune, 08 February 2005

“Bush budget fails to fund flood control in New Orleans ,” New Orleans CityBusiness, 14 February 2005

Deon Roberts, “ New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers faces ,” New Orleans CityBusiness, 06 June 2005

Will Bunch, “Did New Orleans catastrophe have to happen? ‘Times-Picayune’ had repeatedly raised federal spending issues,” Editor & Publisher, 31 August 2005

Toby Eckert, “Could disaster have been prevented?,” Copley News Service, 02 September 2005

Jim VandeHei and Peter Baker, “ Critics say Bush undercut New Orleans flood control ,” Washington Post, 02 September 2005

“The City in a Bowl ,” Transcript, NOW, Public Broadcasting Service, 20 September 2002

Jon Elliston, “ A Disaster Waiting to Happen ,” bestofneworleans.com, 28 September 2004

Scott Shane and Eric Lipton, “ Government saw flood risk but not levee failure ,” New York Times, 02 September 2005

Paul Krugman, “ A can’t-do government ,” New York Times, 02 September 2005

“Lake Pontchartrain, LA and Vicinity Hurricane Protection Project, St. Bernard, Orleans, Jefferson, and St. Charles Parishes, LA ,” Project Fact Sheet, US Army Corps of Engineers New Orleans District, website, 23 May 2005

“Fiscal Year 2006: Civil Works Budget for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers ,” Department of the Army, February 2005

“Press Briefing by Scott McClellan ,” whitehouse.gov, 01 September 2005

Karen Turni, “Upgrade of levees proposed by corps; gulf outlet levee may be too low, officials worry,” Times-Picayune, 12 November 1998

John McQuaid and Mark Schleifstein, “The big one: A major hurricane could decimate the region, but flooding from even a moderate storm could kill thousands. It’s just a matter of time,” Times-Picayune, 24 June 2002

Copyright 2005 Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania

Judgments expressed are those of FactCheck.org’s staff, not the Annenberg Center


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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

"It was scheduled to be completed in 2015."

It's 2005.


21 posted on 09/02/2005 7:41:31 PM PDT by OkiMusashi (Beware the fury of a patient man. --- John Dryden)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Right! If he hadn't been in college drinking it up, the Alaskan earthquake would have been avoided. And, I can't remember where he was in 1980, but if he had been attending to business Mt. St. Helens wouldn't have blown and layered the Columbia Basin with all that ash.


22 posted on 09/02/2005 7:43:20 PM PDT by Parmy
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

I saw an interview with an Army Corps of Engineers official who said the levee projects were started in 1975 and came to a standstill in 1996. He said a lot of the money allocated has been diverted by local N.O. politicians for other pet projects. No work has been done on them since 96. When he spoke out about it in 96 he was fired.


23 posted on 09/02/2005 7:44:53 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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To: Peach

I needed this information today -- trying to defend President Bush while I was jogging with a friend. Can you help me with a reference for this info on Clinton dismissing it?


24 posted on 09/02/2005 7:45:05 PM PDT by Kay
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
A fact the factcheck.org needs to check, Has Sid the Squid stop beating his wife.

If he never beat his wife why did he pay drudges legal fees and not let discovery go forward?

25 posted on 09/02/2005 7:45:18 PM PDT by dts32041 (Shinkichi: Massuer, did you see that? Zatôichi: I don't see much)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
The bottom line is the money was cut in the FY '04 budget. Even if a $100 billion INCREASE was appropriated for the levee, it wouldn't have made A BIT OF DIFFERENCE!!.

When accounting for government red tape, environmental impact studies, environmentalists lawsuits, affirmative action-sensitive contractor bidding and general bureaucratic incompetence, the levee still would have taken YEARS to be upgraded (The Big Dig anyone??).

This whole "if Bush hadn't cut the budget, the flooding wouldn't have happened" canard is shamefully dishonest.

26 posted on 09/02/2005 7:45:45 PM PDT by Libertarian444
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To: Peach

read post 23


27 posted on 09/02/2005 7:46:05 PM PDT by Ron in Acreage (It's the borders stupid! "ALLEN IN 08")
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To: Merry
They believe Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton who must enjoy keep them ignorant.

Al and Jesse are to racial division in this country AS radical Imam are to Islamonazism around the world.

They don't seek to make the world a better place. They serve to stir up unrest and chaos. Lying to their followers is part and parcel to that. They are evil men. The media knows this. Al and Jesse have made anti-semitic remarks that would have sank other politicians careers ("Jew them down", "Hymie-town" are among the least). Al tied his career to a woman who promoted a fake "hate crime". Jesse stole money from his organization to pay for the child support of his illegitimate kids. Who knows what else they have done but they were never widely elected as "leadership" of the black people of America.

When they hold office, maybe then the media should treat them any different than they do the rantings of David Duke.

28 posted on 09/02/2005 7:46:27 PM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
I hope this is an accurate fact checking!

No it's not. Their complaints start in 2001 (conveniently after Bush took office) but the funding cuts go much further back than that.

February 17, 1995

An Army Corps of Engineers "hit list" of recommended budget cuts would eliminate new flood-control programs in some of the nation's most flood-prone spots - where recent disasters have left thousands homeless and cost the federal government millions in emergency aid.

Clinton administration officials argue that the flood-control efforts are local projects, not national, and should be paid for by local taxes.

Nationwide, the administration proposes cutting 98 new projects in 35 states and Puerto Rico, for an estimated savings of $29 million in 1996.

Corps officials freely conceded the cuts, which represent only a small portion of savings the corps ultimately must make, may be penny-wise and pound-foolish. But they said they were forced to eliminate some services the corps has historically provided to taxpayers to meet the administration's budget-cutting goals.

June 23, 1995

A hurricane project, approved and financed since 1965, to protect more than 140,000 West Bank residents east of the Harvey Canal is in jeopardy.

The Clinton administration is holding back a Corps of Engineers report recommending that the $120 million project proceed. Unless that report is forwarded to the Office of Management and Budget, Congress cannot authorize money for the project, U.S. Rep. William Jefferson's office said Thursday.

On June 9, John Zirschky, the acting assistant secretary of the Army and the official who refused to forward the report, sent a memo to the corps, saying the recommendation for the project "is not consistent with the policies and budget priorities reflected in the President's Fiscal Year 1996 budget. Accordingly, I will not forward the report to the Office of Management and Budget for clearance."

July 26, 1996

The House voted Thursday for a $19.4 billion energy and water bill that provides $246 million for Army Corps of Engineers projects in Louisiana.

The bill, approved 391-23, is the last of the 13 annual spending measures for 1997 approved by the House.

One area in which the House approved more financing than the president requested was for flood control and maintenance of harbors and shipping routes by the Army Corps of Engineers.

Flood control projects along the Mississippi River and its tributaries were allotted $303 million, or $10 million more than the president wanted.

June 19, 1996

The Army Corps of Engineers, which builds most flood protection levees on a federal-local cost-sharing basis, uses a cost-benefit ratio to justify a project. If the cost of building a levee is considered less than the cost of restoring a flood-ravaged area, the project is more likely to be approved.

For years, the Jean Lafitte-Lower Lafitte-Barataria-Crown Point areas couldn't convince the corps they were worthy of levee protection. But the use of Section 205 and congressional pressure has given the corps a new perspective, Spohrer said.

But even so, when the Clinton administration began to curtail spending on flood control and other projects a year ago, the corps stopped spending on Section 205 projects even after deciding to do a $70,000 preliminary Jean Lafitte study, Spohrer said.

July 22, 1999

In passing a $20.2 billion spending bill this week for water and energy projects, the House Appropriations Committee approved some significant increases in financing for several New Orleans area flood control and navigational projects.

The spending bill is expected on the House floor within the next two weeks.

For the New Orleans District of the Army Corps of Engineers, the panel allocated $106 million for construction projects, about $16 million more than proposed by President Clinton.

The bill would provide $47 million for "southeast Louisiana flood control projects," $16 million for "Lake Pontchartrain and vicinity hurricane protection," $15.9 million for the Inner Harbor Navigation Canal Lock on the Industrial Canal in New Orleans and $2 million for "West Bank hurricane protection -- from New Orleans to Venice."

Most of the projects received significant increases over what the Clinton administration had proposed. The exception: general flood control projects for southeast Louisiana, which remained at the $47 million suggested by Clinton. Local officials had hoped for double that amount.

February 8, 2000

For the metropolitan New Orleans area, Clinton's budget was seen as a mixed bag by local lawmakers and government officials. For instance, while Clinton called for $1.5 billion to be spent at Avondale Industries to continue building LPD-17 landing craft, his budget calls for significantly less than what Congress appropriated last year for Lake Pontchartrain and vicinity hurricane protection and for West Bank flood control projects.

September 29, 2000

The House approved Thursday a $23.6 billion measure for water and energy programs, with sizable increases for several New Orleans area flood-control projects. The Senate will vote Monday, but it may be a while before the bill is enacted.

President Clinton is promising to veto the annual appropriation for the Energy Department and Army Corps of Engineers, not because it is $890 million larger than he proposed, but because it does not include a plan to alter the levels of the Missouri River to protect endangered fish and birds.
Source: EU Rota

29 posted on 09/02/2005 7:47:22 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Kay

There is an FR thread from today, maybe someone can post the link (search the current headlines)


30 posted on 09/02/2005 7:48:59 PM PDT by weegee (The Rovebaiting by DUAC must stop. It is nothing but a partisan witchhunt.)
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To: Ron in Acreage
Appropriated dollars don't mean jack if you can't get the contracts placed. Corps contracts in excess of certain amounts had to be approved at HQ level by (at that time the infamous and recently demoted) Bunny. She was a bottleneck. Between Bunny and General Ballard who insisted that the number of Corps contracts to "disadvantaged businesses" be significantly increased it is a wonder the Corps got anything right.

I would like to see appropriated dollars vs obligated dollars before passing judgment on Bush's actions.

31 posted on 09/02/2005 7:53:07 PM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Can we swap Cindy Sheehan in Crawford for Cindy Crawford anywhere?)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
It looks like this is another of the "history started in January 2001" articles.

A Category IV hurricane could have come any time after the levee was built, and it would presumably have had the exact same result.

If the levee had been upgraded any time from its initial construction through the Carter and Clinton Administrations it would have made just about as much sense as it would have to upgrade it during the War on Terror. In fact given the historically relaxed attitude toward the problem, who is to say that a decision to upgrade, even if taken, would have been completed in time? After all, the particular section which failed had itself been recently "upgraded." Maybe that would have been the last section reworked!


32 posted on 09/02/2005 7:54:40 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: FreedomCalls

You brought up excellent points that you dug up! The other guys also brought excellent points about the limited search in the past regarding the history of the leevee project!


33 posted on 09/02/2005 7:55:53 PM PDT by Sen Jack S. Fogbound
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

34 posted on 09/02/2005 7:57:42 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
Thank you, Stinky Blue-menthol!!! You have confirmed my belief that next to God, George W. Bush is the most powerful being/entity to ever exist - capable of making earthquakes and hurricanes, rivers run backwards, storm to only victimize Black people and leave White people untouched (Tell Trent Lott that he is White, won't you?). You just had to work so hard to learn what I knew. You see, George W. Bush is a Texas Cowboy and everyone knows that Texas Cowboys are all-seeing, all-knowing, all-wise, and all powerful. Smart people don't mess with Texas Cowboys.
35 posted on 09/02/2005 7:59:41 PM PDT by Virginia Queen (Virginia Queen)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound

Is Bush to blame...well Yes and NO


Yes he is not to blame and
No he is not to blame


36 posted on 09/02/2005 7:59:42 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
Our fact-checking confirms that Bush indeed cut funding for projects specifically designed to strengthen levees. Indeed, local officials had been complaining about that for years.

Clinton did nothing either. Funny they never mention that.
Even if Bush rebuilt the levy himself by hand it wouldn't have mattered. It was engineered to withstand a category 3 hurricane. This category 5 would have broken through the new one just as easily. The liberal press and left wing talking heads are ignoring this part, of course.

37 posted on 09/02/2005 8:04:47 PM PDT by concerned about politics ("Get thee behind me, Liberal.")
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
Fact check is a liberal biased site that gets its facts and logic wrong most of the time IMO. They pretend to be balanced (throw a small bone to the right), but they are not. I would not trust their so called "facts" any further than I could throw them. The website is a POS. I actually hate to see Republicans site it because it gives it credibility (Cheney did it in the debates and got burned by it).

Bush had nothing to do with the storm or the flood, including any so-called cuts in what the COE asked for in their budget. Furthermore, the problem was there long before Bush ever came into office. Those are the facts.
38 posted on 09/02/2005 8:06:05 PM PDT by Hendrix
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To: Sen Jack S. Fogbound
Click here for the 'tator take on who is to blame.

I'll give you a hint.. It is not President Bush or any elected official.

39 posted on 09/02/2005 8:06:38 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Echo Talon

ROFLMAO!!!!


40 posted on 09/02/2005 8:06:55 PM PDT by Ex-expromissor (Know Your Enemy)
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