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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIV
Various ^ | 2 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/02/2005 3:03:06 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Howlin

the counter-offensive has just begun. Hell, Trent Lott may be our new point man! let's see how it plays out.

its good to see this rap star play the race card on national TV tonight - let americans get a good dose of that, after seeing the looters with their own eyes.


2,481 posted on 09/02/2005 10:29:28 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: BurbankKarl
I would say driving a nice Caddy like that three days after martial law would be suspicious?

Especially lacking plates and what appears to be dried paper from the dealer plates on the front.
2,482 posted on 09/02/2005 10:30:08 PM PDT by kingu (Draft Fmr Senator Fred Thompson for '08.)
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To: Texasforever

GO AWAY MARIA!!


2,483 posted on 09/02/2005 10:30:20 PM PDT by md2576
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To: John Jamieson

Oklahoma is taking in military families from Keesler AFB and other military facilities that are displaced. We don't have any facilities to house large numbers of folks or the resources.


2,484 posted on 09/02/2005 10:30:27 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Allen in 2008)
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To: bonfire
It's frustrating to watch at home and be able to do NOTHING except scream at the TV or post on FR.

I was recently diagnosed with high blood pressure and Type II diabetes, so watching CNN and MSNBC - and even Fox - today probably played havoc with my blood pressure, and I was tempted to go to the bar and have a couple of stiff drinks (didn't). I'm appalled at the second-guessing of the relief effort by smug journalists, partisan Dems, race-baiters, and know-nothing stay-at-homes. It is sickening. Just four days after a devastating disaster, tens of thousands have been relocated to safe shelters, tens of thousands have been rescued, and thousands are receiving medical help. And yet, the MSM conveys the impression that NOTHING has been accomplished.
2,485 posted on 09/02/2005 10:30:36 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: chet_in_ny

I agree.


2,486 posted on 09/02/2005 10:30:38 PM PDT by Born in a Rage
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Speaking of giving the babies and children a good upbringing...

My daughter turned to that (gasp) NBC telethon thing briefly...and I saw Hilary Swank talking about giving money...blah, blah..

and I told my daughter that I would be more impressed if I saw Hilary Swank down at the Astrodome serving meals, or sweeping up.

Then I remembered being at the grocery store yesterday, seeing the cover of one of those tabloid papers...with Angelina Jolie holding her new adopted baby...she is a little African-American baby that is adorable...

I don't know her motivation...but if it is what she says...and she just wants to help and give these kids a good home...then SHE, I would listen to.

The others...blech!


2,487 posted on 09/02/2005 10:31:27 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: OKIEDOC

Spot on!


2,488 posted on 09/02/2005 10:31:36 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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To: BurbankKarl

Water is sprayed to extinguish an industrial fire near downtown New Orleans, Louisiana September 2, 2005

Funny, I saw a lot of live pictures of the burning, but none of these fireboats streaming water...

2,489 posted on 09/02/2005 10:32:12 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

that was kinda like my idea....bring families out here to places like Kansas, help 'em get a little fixer upper house and a boring but steady job. A used car and some basic neccessities shouldn't be hard to acquire. But this should not be given entirely, it should be earned.
Have the family fix up the starter house and another in the neighborhood. When people feel like they have earned it it feels better than a handout. That said, these folks will be needing a lot of help

But for this to work you'd need to get them connected into the community on some level, some activities, some help with life skills in small town America. Also useful would be connection to a church, etc.

keep the kids busy in small school activities and sports....we could probably end the cycle of dependency/poverty for a large portion of these folks.

Small town America actually watches out for folks, and in my humble opinion, gives kids a sense of security growing up when you know everyone in town is watching you...hehe....but thats just my opinion

that'd work for some, but i wouldn't wish the young single thugs on anyone....sad as that sounds.


2,490 posted on 09/02/2005 10:32:33 PM PDT by Will_Zurmacht
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To: md2576
It's a horrible situation and I don't believe they could have done everything mistake free. Seems they would have at least had emergency supplies and relocation areas more readily available.

They did have emergency supplies pre-staged; but as I said before, as far as evacuation is concerned, there are always going to be a large number of people who won't go, for whatever reason, and because of the geographical situation NO is in, that put them in a world of hurt - so now they and the media are falling back on the old Bush-bashing game.

The notion that the federal government could just teleport every living soul of out metro NO in a few hours in nonsense; if any more could have been done, it could only have been done by the city and state, not the feds.

2,491 posted on 09/02/2005 10:32:41 PM PDT by Heatseeker ("I sort of like liberals now. They’re kind of cute when they’re shivering and afraid." - Ann Coulter)
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To: md2576
Refused? Or were too poor to leave?

Refused. Apart from the reports here, there were in fact *free* buses trying to pick people up from N.O. but they had precious few takers.

Beside the buses... how much does it cost to walk a few miles?

2,492 posted on 09/02/2005 10:32:50 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: PhiKapMom

I wasn't try to dig at OK, I was thinking more of CA,NY,MA,DC, etc.


2,493 posted on 09/02/2005 10:33:56 PM PDT by John Jamieson (Hybrids are a highway around CAFE, that's all they're good for.)
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To: NautiNurse

I don't have any f'ing common sense, thank you. I'm only here to inform people that sometimes people on the dole or whatever you like to call poverty....are not always able to drive out of town when a cat 4-5 hurricane is coming.

Also, as a Florida resident I want to inform the know-it-alls that when you are able to drive out of town -- like we wanted to in 2004 ahead of hurricane Frances ... the motels and hotels are completely full, no vacancies.....


2,494 posted on 09/02/2005 10:33:57 PM PDT by onyx eyes (.... we make a living by what we get. We make a life by what we give.)
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To: Spktyr
Exactly. We already have 20,000+ of them down in Houston, we're going to have 35,000 of them in Dallas by Sunday, San Antonio is going to have 25,000 by about the same time...

I've been wondering about the logistics of this situation myself, from a long-term perspective.

Essentially, we are re-locating an entire city, no, an entire region of the country. Where are these people going to live for the next 3 - 6 months? In football stadiums? What about the tens of thousands of other people all along the Gulf Coast?

What a catastrophe.

2,495 posted on 09/02/2005 10:34:27 PM PDT by IDontLikeToPayTaxes
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To: Ramius

My brother said the same thing today. He said if he didn't have a car or transportation he would have "walked north". duh


2,496 posted on 09/02/2005 10:34:30 PM PDT by bonfire (dwindler)
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To: Heatseeker

I agree. The state failed not the feds. Bush declared it a disaster days before so that funding was available.
All they had to do was ask.


2,497 posted on 09/02/2005 10:34:44 PM PDT by md2576
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To: Texas_Conservative2

LOL---I think we are all getting very confused...all of the channels have been jumping from story to story, but THEN again, NOT telling the story...

Kind of like that "hostage" story with the firemen. It was hugh news this afternoon..but I didn't hear it mentioned once on the night time shows on Fox...very strange.


2,498 posted on 09/02/2005 10:34:44 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: hoosiermama
You are right about some people not having to be told twice...Two are safe a warm with family here in Indiana....But they were invited to several "hurricane parties" and had "intelligent" friends who chose to stay and party. Haven't heard from them yet.

My guess is they're probably running low on ice.

2,499 posted on 09/02/2005 10:34:48 PM PDT by Interesting Times (ABCNNBCBS -- yesterday's news.)
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To: Mo1
Regarding 'coincidence? i think not!' toon - ROTFL
2,500 posted on 09/02/2005 10:35:14 PM PDT by easonc52
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