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Governor: Tax Hike Possible if Prop. 76 Fails (Schwarzenegger)
Los Angeles Times ^ | September 2, 2005 | Peter Nicholas

Posted on 09/02/2005 2:59:40 PM PDT by calcowgirl

SACRAMENTO -- Facing widespread opposition to his special election, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger said Friday that if voters reject a proposed spending restraint on the November ballot, he might be forced to raise taxes.

Schwarzenegger previewed a campaign theme in a morning radio interview, predicting that new taxes might be the only alternative if voters reject Proposition 76, the "Live Within Our Means" act.

Asked on Sacramento station KTKZ-1380 AM what he might do to avert future budget deficits if the spending control is defeated, Schwarzenegger said:

"Then we have to look at raising taxes, because this is the only option we have, in order to create the money. And this is why I tell people vote yes on Proposition 76 and make sure that we do everything that we can to pass this proposition so that we force our legislators once and for all to live within their means and not to continue spending money and to keep making promises to people that they can't keep."

Schwarzenegger's comments came amid a new statewide poll showing little appetite for the Nov. 8 special election that he depicts as central to his "year of reform" agenda.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: ca05specialelection; careformagenda; kalifornia; mcclintock; prop76; schwarzenegger; taxes
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To: RS

The "spending cap" initiative includes authorization for more bonds.


181 posted on 09/06/2005 7:37:26 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: RS
is better then folding your arms in with the expectation that the climb will be easier once you hit bottom.

And that is exactly what the Arnold supporters have done. They have folded their arms in and not only hope things will get better they keep telling us how crazy we are for pointing out they are getting worse.

182 posted on 09/06/2005 7:38:13 PM PDT by FOG724 (RINOS - they are not better than leftists, they ARE leftists.)
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To: calcowgirl

sorry for the late reply -

"Arnold called those supporting the racial privacy act, Prop 54, "Right Wing Crazies". Do you think those the are "fanatical conservatives", also?"

No - he didn't - you have the quote wrong.


183 posted on 09/06/2005 7:41:19 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: calcowgirl

sorry for the late reply -

"Arnold called those supporting the racial privacy act, Prop 54, "Right Wing Crazies". Do you think those the are "fanatical conservatives", also?"

No - he didn't - you have the quote wrong.


184 posted on 09/06/2005 7:41:28 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: FOG724
I was referring to those who, during the election, were advocating either the election of Bustamente and CA's decent into the third level of hell, or else the election of a candidate who they said would block everything he could, effectively shutting down the government and all spending.

Either way, they were advocating that we hit bottom.

Now you may not believe that Arnold is trying to avoid that, but if that outcome is what you truly believe will be forthcoming, then it doesn't really matter who you support, the end is neigh !
185 posted on 09/06/2005 7:52:51 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS
Now you may not believe that Arnold is trying to avoid that

I believe Arnold is a socialist who has implemented a more socialist agenda than a Dem could have dreamed of. Too me that is hitting rock bottom. There isn't much lower we can go except the increase of taxes and he is threatening that.

186 posted on 09/06/2005 7:56:53 PM PDT by FOG724 (RINOS - they are not better than leftists, they ARE leftists.)
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To: FOG724

Let me ask you -

Are there people that you would catagorize as "fanatical conservatives " ?


187 posted on 09/06/2005 8:05:45 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS
Are there people that you would catagorize as "fanatical conservatives " ?

Yes but I ain't one of em.

Let me ask you something. Are you happy with the massive increase in budget (all Arnold's not the legislatures), the property rights violations and rampant environmentalism he is foisting on us? Are you happy with the huge increase in debt? Do you rejoice when he talks about how the government should be taking care of the people?

188 posted on 09/06/2005 8:11:44 PM PDT by FOG724 (RINOS - they are not better than leftists, they ARE leftists.)
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To: All

show of hands -

Who here, when I use the term "Fanatical Conservative" thinks I am refering to you ?

Who here, when Arnold used the term "right wing crazies" thinks he was refering to you ?


189 posted on 09/06/2005 8:18:49 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS

My hand is raised on both counts.


190 posted on 09/06/2005 8:22:18 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: FOG724
There isn't much lower we can go except the increase of taxes and he is threatening that.

Are there still enough non-scumbag Republicans in the legislature to prevent a tax increase? Or is there that necessary handful of Republicans who will join the Democrats and vote for a tax increase if Arnold asks them to? (A Democrat governor would arguably have a more difficult time getting a tax hike through the legislature.) I guess I'm asking if Arnold may end up being the worst thing that could have happened to the decent Californians who voted for him and who haven't left the place yet.

191 posted on 09/06/2005 8:31:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: RS
No - he didn't - you have the quote wrong.

Really?

Prop. 54 backer: Schwarzenegger gave him an earful
Timm Herdt, Ventura County Star, September 10, 2003

Schwarzenegger explained that he had studied the measure and determined it was a "no-brainer" to oppose it. Schwarzenegger went on to say he believed it important that public schools be able to identify minority children to help "bring them up to the starting line. And if the right-wing crazies have a problem with that, so be it."

192 posted on 09/06/2005 8:56:16 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: RS; Lancey Howard; FOG724; Yancey; Czar; calcowgirl; SierraWasp; Carry_Okie
"Bzzzzt... Zap!

Gol' Darn ! That blue light NAZI Beefcake sho' fools those inscets RINOS !"

RS You appear to have the savvy and intellect of a deflated tennis ball. Why don't you go play somewhere where your limited cognition won't be such a handicap - like on the 880 freeway at 4:30?

193 posted on 09/06/2005 9:00:49 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: RS

Pssst!!! There ain't no FReeper named "all!" (but how would you know?)


194 posted on 09/06/2005 9:14:56 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: calcowgirl

Please refer back to my posts on this thread.

If you do not believe that "right wing crazies" exist, we don't have a lot to discuss.


195 posted on 09/06/2005 9:25:47 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: RS

I read the garbage and misrepresentations you posted on this thread once; I have no desire to read them again. You said I misquoted Arnold (while providing absolutely zero support). I gave you the direct quote from the newspaper.

I do note that you got very silent when I pointed out that the "spending cap" includes yet MORE DEBT! Selectively choosing which posts to respond to, huh?

So much for cutting up those credit cards.


196 posted on 09/06/2005 9:32:01 PM PDT by calcowgirl
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To: calcowgirl; FOG724; editor-surveyor
I can't remember positively... wasn't Prop 54 championed by that champion of justice, Ward Connerly?

If A.S. thinks Ward Connerly is a right wing crazy, then A.S. is most certainly a left wing crazy of the Nth degree!!!

Now Ward isn't conservative enough for me, but I still like his attitude!!!

197 posted on 09/06/2005 9:33:35 PM PDT by SierraWasp (The only thing that can save CA is making eastern CA the 51st state called Sierra Republic!!!)
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To: editor-surveyor

"RS You appear to have the savvy and intellect of a deflated tennis ball. "

C'mon... you can do better then that - is that what I've worn you down to ? What's next ? "You're a big doodie-head ?"

Get up and fight ! Logic ! Sources ! traceable quotes !

( although it is better then giving a "quote" and having it turn out to be a tortured interpretation of what was said instead )


198 posted on 09/06/2005 9:34:43 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: calcowgirl

"You said I misquoted Arnold (while providing absolutely zero support). I gave you the direct quote from the newspaper."

... and the direct quote did not support what you said - your interpretation of the quote is what is wrong - perhaps you could try diagraming the sentance ?


199 posted on 09/06/2005 9:36:53 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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To: All

Hey ALL... you don't exist !

( and people who have been here for 5 years have started to figure that out )


BZZzzaaapp!


200 posted on 09/06/2005 9:40:59 PM PDT by RS ("I took the drugs because I liked them and I found excuses to take them, so I'm not weaseling. ")
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