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"The Begining of Our Nightmare" -- Personal Account from New Orleans **It's worse than you think!**
e-mail | 9/2/2005 | Per Guenevere's e-mail

Posted on 09/02/2005 2:49:29 PM PDT by Guenevere

This e-mail received in the past hour from a local couple who just escaped from New Orleans. They wanted to stress how poorly Louisiana's Democratic controlled government handled the situation...

My husband and I have an unbelievable story about the situation in New Orleans.

We were stranded tourists that ended up stranded due to Delta canceling our flight on Sunday at 11:25am. That was the beginning of our nightmare.

We were in a city we weren't all that familiar (where are the stores, no local knowledge, no local network) and were unable to leave. I won't spend time discussing having to stay in the midst of a category 4 hurricane (something we would NEVER do, being from Florida and being wise to hurricanes). But what is more upsetting is what happened to us afterwards...........

We were staying in a small hotel 3 blocks off of Canal on Tchopotoulis Street in the Warehouse/Art District. This hotel did not have a generator, nor did it have any provisions for food. We were on our own.

For 2 days, we did our best on the streets trying to scrounge some water and food and tried our best to find out how to get these supplies and more importantly, to get back to the airport when it opened (we were under the false hope that the airport would open and we would somehow fly out when that happened).

Tuesday was the beginning of our delusion fading and the quick realization of what was coming. We saw the looters going into the athletic store on Canal (while Brian Williams was doing a segment for the nightly news) and the police exerted minimal effort to stop this as we came to realize - they had no where to put the looters/criminals. That was probably the first of our realization that those in charge (which still trying to figure out just who is), is not doing anything and planning for anything. There is absolutely NO LEADERSHIP.

But we did our best to endure the heat, no AC, the little food that we could get and talked to as many people as possible to get any information we could. We at least had a hotel room. When ever we asked the National Guard and police where was the help, the water, the food, all they could say was "it is coming" and be happy as we were in the driest part of the city and "the water is coming" (meaning the levy broke).

On Wednesday, we were desperate, out of food, out of water, and could not now flush a toilet. My husband and I set out on our morning walk to Canal Street to see the news media (that was the only way we could learn anything). We realized that there were less people that day. As much as we wanted to leave the media alone to do their job, we were increasingly frustrated as to how they obviously had water and probably food. How come? Where was ours. My husband finally asked one of the crew (no one would even give us eye contact at that point -(Side note - we are in our 40s, white and friendly looking). how they got in - as we were figuring that one of the reasons there was not any support and more supplies was the roads were still down. That guy told us that they drove in from Tampa and they had no problem coming in. Then where are the supplies? Where is the Red Cross?

We were dumfounded, but knew we had to leave as soon as possible - if we had to walk.

We saw some buses at the W Hotel and asked if we could go, we would pay whatever necessary. They were full and were taking guests/families out of the W and the Sheraton hotels. Sorry. What?????? We could not believe this. We ran around and asked the police again when is anyone coming? "They are coming; they are bringing in buses to the Superdome and busing people out to Houston". (We did not go to the Dome as the Mayor said that was for people with special needs and for hotel guests to stay put). But we could now possibly walk there (we still heard there was water up to the dome, but we could go there and wait for buses).

Somewhere around this time, we saw another police person and as a pharmacist I told him I was concerned about the people that were going without meds and I would volunteer to go into the Walgreen’s on Canal (the looters had already broken into the front part for supplies) and if a police personnel was there I could dispense and emergency supply to anyone showing a Rx bottle with maintenance medications. He said the supplies "are coming". I got very angry and said they need to be here NOW. He asked for a suggestion and I said I already told him mine. He said that would take a lot - we would have to get approval from Walgreen’s corporate, yada yada. I said, can't you see out here, this is like a 3rd world country. Walgreen’s won't care; they'd love the publicity (I work for the competitor CVS and I know they would feel the same way). They want patients to have meds. The policeman said even if they could do it, he had no way to get any kind of "approval" for something like that as they all had no communication. What?????????????

We got very annoyed, depressed and made the short trek to the Convention Center to see about any person in charge to see if there was any medical, buses, water, food, etc. We went there and there was NOTHING except for people waiting. We tried to ask for anyone in charge, who knew anything and there was NO ONE. (By the way, the national guardsmen that we had seen earlier that morning, 3 hours later still did not know anything or give us any other information).

We could not believe. But we knew one thing; we were getting out anyway possible. I felt like the people who were going down the steps of the World Trade Center thinking they were really going anywhere when in reality our fate was set and officials had sacrificed all of us left in the city.

We called collect to my mother in law and I unleashed a lot of tears of frustration and she told us some obvious: Look for someone in charge - we did that THERE WAS NO ONE (she did not believe) Ask police and national guard - we did that also - no information

She said buses were coming. I said that was not true - there were no buses, there was NO water, NO food, NOTHING, unlike the TV was showing her of all of the relief that was "coming". Where were they?

She told us to hang in there, she was going to stay glued to the TV and we could call her back.

As prayers were being raised for us, about 45 minutes later we saw some people on the street near a few vehicles (we had already asked everyone that morning near a car if we could pay to go with them, never any room). These people took pity on us and allowed us into their hotel shelter. Come to realize this was the hotel the police had been staying in for the last several days. They had food, water, alcohol, generators. We could not believe our luck. We also could not believe what these people were now telling us about the looters. They were afraid. They also had pistols (I have never seen a pistol in my life). They were awaiting a SUV that a person was letting them take as he was not leaving. They promised us if they had enough room they would take us out of the city. We were elated.

At that point 4-5 policeman came back into get the rest of their clothes and belongings and said, we need to get out of there as the looters (gangs of New Orleans) had gotten guns from a store they broke into and they were coming this way. The policeman said he was getting out of there and would not be coming back as there was nothing they could do. He then asked how many weapons we all had, and for about 12 people there were only 3 guns. He gave the men 2 more guns, a shotgun and a pistol and said we would need it.............

I felt like we were in a Hollywood movie. Not that much longer as we awaited the SUV, another vehicle came and we all knew we needed to be ready to go at any moment. We all piled in the vehicle while the guys stood watch with the guns. We were transported then to another hotel about 2 blocks away. We were hurried out and told that we would not be able to fit into the vehicle they were getting but that we needed to get our names on the list that the guy was taking and we would be bused out. That was fine with us. We did that and within 1/2 hour we were on the bus, and heading out of the city.

I won't describe the looks on the faces of those who saw this bus as they knew someone was leaving and they were not. I was horrified for them. I wanted to let them on as they were walking over the bridge.

We asked where we were going and they told us, Baton Rouge. We got a cell signal and called our mother-in-law to tell her to book our flight on Delta to get out of Baton Rouge.

The bus was paid for by the Marriott Corp who was dedicated to getting their associates and guests out of the city. Rumor is the CEO or Mr. Marriott, or someone high up at Marriott got buses ready on Tuesday and had to get special permission from the governor to allow the buses in. They had to make more than one phone call to make that happen, but that is what they did.

They allowed all of us to stay in the ballroom. We decided to go to the airport and sleep there and hopefully get an earlier flight. That is what we did and we got back into Orlando today at 11am.

We had not been able to hear/see any of the news and were flabbergasted to see the Governor and that woman Senator get on TV and talk about all that they were doing. All of that is hogwash. They aren't doing anything for all those poor people there still in the city and nothing to stop the looting. I believe I saw prior to the hurricane that the Governor could go to the highest level and get the military to come in and take the security over and be in charge of such if she declares it to be at that state. Why has she not done?

We just got back from eating with my in-laws and my mother-in-law told us she frantically started calling everyone she could to get us some help in there. She told us something very scary, on Wed when she was calling at about 10:30am, she actually (you have to know her to know that only she could do this) got to talk to a man with the Red Cross with trucks, supplies, etc in their trucks only awaiting the Governor to allow them to get in.

My husband and I are exhausted as we haven't slept in days and are emotionally drained, but can't help but think if it weren't for the Grace of God and a little good timing, we would still have been there. And today is one more day past and NOTHING HAS CHANGED. SOMETHING IS WRONG. There is no reason they don't have church buses that can come in and get these people, let the Red Cross in, let supplies in, etc..........

Please help them. Call us if you want even more details.

Thanks- God Bless- [name withheld]

Senator- My husband and I are absolutely disgusted with how you and your Governor have allowed such disarray to occur. Not to mention how you've left the tourists there for dead. Oh, yea and your own people who are dying in the streets.

There is NO EXCUSE for not getting reinforcements to the National Guard in earlier knowing the gang like undertones of your violence-tending city.

I remember the day when NOLA was not a favorite of travelers as it was considered "dirty and dangerous". My husband and I love NOLA and met there 16 years ago in college at the Sugar Bowl. We are sickened by what we personally went through and we are even more nauseated by what is happening even a day later as no more help has showed up.

What is the problem? We demand to know. You, your officials, your Governor owe us, your own citizens that you've left for dead an apology.

I couldn't believe what you were saying after not seeing/hearing the TV for over 3 days. I just hope the top of this e-mail that we've e-mailed to anyone who will listen will do some help.

If we lived within 6 hours of NOLA we would call all churches, get buses and drive through your barriers just to get these people OUT> All that FEMA can do later will be done. It is NOW that these people need help, or else who cares how many millions you all get donated.

Or, perhaps, is that the purpose? Are you all doing this for a reason and that is to let attrition happen and then there will be fewer victims to divide the money between. SHAMEFUL


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: cary; dumbdems; katrina; neworleans; personalaccount; tourist
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To: Gritty
It is also their responsibility to have a stock of food, water and essentials to be able to survive until help arrives. Of course, tourists usually can't do that, so they have to fall back on the responsibility of their hotels.

I think most people - let alone people like most of the stranded, who are poor or working-class and live paycheck to paycheck - are doing all they can to keep food on the table day-to-day. Several days of essentials just ain't in the cards. Even if you're fortunate enough to have such supply, said supplies would be pretty useless when submerged.

And further, most of the poor and working-class are renters. Where, do you suppose, they'd keep such a supply? This isn't just a problem for po' black folks in big cities - the poor in small towns and rural areas have these same troubles.

Hell, a lotta middle-class suburbanites and the wealthy aren't prepared for disaster, hence the runs on bread, eggs and milk everytime a snowstorm threatens. All's I can figure in those situations is that people must be expecting a big French Toast shortage.

SW

161 posted on 09/03/2005 9:53:49 AM PDT by Snidely Whiplash
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To: Snidely Whiplash
What you said, Snidely.

Bump!

162 posted on 09/03/2005 10:17:48 AM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Guenevere
There is absolutely NO LEADERSHIP.

Anarchy. Coming soon to a town near you.

163 posted on 09/03/2005 10:56:13 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (we don't need no stinkin' tagline.)
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To: bentfeather
I was thinking the same thing. Every time I see her face[the Gov. of LA} she looks like she is about to break out in tears or faint.If she were my Governor it wouldn't give me much confidence that she has things ''under control''!
164 posted on 09/03/2005 11:16:14 AM PDT by Bush gal in LA
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To: NoControllingLegalAuthority
For openers, what were you doing staying in New Orleans until after the airlines has suspended flights?

First if you are a tourist, do you spend a lot of time watching the news and keeping yourself informed, or are you there to get away from the cares of the world and day to day life? Most probably had no clue or care what was about to hit.

Second, the evac order was not given until Sunday morning. Delta was the first to stop flying in and out of NO that morning and those with prearranged flights were left stranded. There is a mother and my son's school who's parents at a conference were stuck in NO for that very reason.

These people were not the ones were looking for a thrill but just got stuck, not really their fault.

165 posted on 09/03/2005 11:41:41 AM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: StarCMC
My guess is that the mayor was waiting for the Federal government to say they'd foot the bill of an evacuation

I've thought this all along.

Both Nagin and Blanco have that look of the people who are always waiting for someone else to pick up the check, don't they?

166 posted on 09/03/2005 12:56:43 PM PDT by HIDEK6
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To: Snidely Whiplash

Snidely, I want to bump your words again. And thank you for what you said to me off-board. Take care.


167 posted on 09/03/2005 2:45:14 PM PDT by Miss Behave (Beloved daughter of Miss Creant, super sister of danged Miss Ology, and proud mother of Miss Hap.)
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To: Snidely Whiplash
most people - let alone people like most of the stranded, who are poor or working-class and live paycheck to paycheck - are doing all they can to keep food on the table day-to-day. Several days of essentials just ain't in the cards.

I couldn't disagree more.

Your stash should be food you can and do normally eat - not the expensive MREs you find in Survivalist Stores. The key is to rotate it into your diet periodically and replace it. Precooked food like canned chili, beans, stew, ravioli, corn, etc are good and can be eaten cold as well. Also canned Spam, sardines, peanut butter etc add protein and are cheap. A few pounds of dried beans, macaroni and rice are good for long term storage if you like, along with powdered gravy, bullion, spagetti sauce and milk for variety. Packaged dehydrated Ramen soup can be easily prepared and is dirt cheap. The shelf life is longer than the life of your shelf. Just rehydrate it in water. It costs around $0.12 a package.

For less than $30 you can have quite a nice stash of all these foods. Again, you need to rotate it periodically and use up the older stuff. In any case, all this will store for quite a while. If unopened, it can survive a flood. Don't forget a jug of Clorox to decontaminate dirty water for drinking (1/4 tsp per gallon, let stand for 30 minutes).

Even if you're fortunate enough to have such supply, said supplies would be pretty useless when submerged.

Not if they are canned and you seal the dry goods in used plastic screw lidded containers that you usually throw away. Throw a handful of dry rice in each to keep out residual moisture.

And further, most of the poor and working-class are renters. Where, do you suppose, they'd keep such a supply?

I keep most of mine in my basement. But I suppose the shelf of a closet would work.

This isn't just a problem for po' black folks in big cities - the poor in small towns and rural areas have these same troubles.

The point is, this is food you will use anyhow. The key is making a list and keeping the stash up to date.

Hell, a lotta middle-class suburbanites and the wealthy aren't prepared for disaster, hence the runs on bread, eggs and milk everytime a snowstorm threatens. All's I can figure in those situations is that people must be expecting a big French Toast shortage.

Me too. But you can buy ahead a large jug of pancake syrup and readi-mix for pancakes (just add water). You can cook a nice meal over a camp stove, propane grill or even open fire and then retire to the tent for a few hands of cards.

168 posted on 09/03/2005 5:46:37 PM PDT by Gritty ("A lot more mothers will be grieving if our military policy is: No one gets hurt!" - Ann Coulter)
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To: Fawnn
The Buses pic, I saw that yesterday and when I read this I thought of it too. Where were the buses..
169 posted on 09/03/2005 6:06:47 PM PDT by Kiko
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To: RoseofTexas
Well, straining my brain, but didn't Fema pull out of Indonesia when they started getting shot at? I'm betting that they don't go into areas that aren't under control and NO certainly wasn't under control.
170 posted on 09/03/2005 6:14:50 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: Guenevere

So good you are safe and got out of there!! Thanks for posting your story....the truth needs to be told.


171 posted on 09/03/2005 6:27:30 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Borax Queen
We just got back from eating with my in-laws and my mother-in-law told us she frantically started calling everyone she could to get us some help in there. She told us something very scary, on Wed when she was calling at about 10:30am, she actually (you have to know her to know that only she could do this) got to talk to a man with the Red Cross with trucks, supplies, etc in their trucks only awaiting the Governor to allow them to get in.

You must read this FReeper's story.

172 posted on 09/03/2005 6:28:17 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo

Bump to read later, thanks!


173 posted on 09/03/2005 6:29:42 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: Borax Queen

yw, BQ.


174 posted on 09/03/2005 6:35:35 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: nicmarlo
Nic, somehow I flubbed in posting this story.

It's not about me....

..it's about someone in my community and it is the truth.

But thankfully, it's not about me.

175 posted on 09/04/2005 4:42:04 AM PDT by Guenevere (God bless our military!...and God bless the President of the United States!)
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To: Guenevere

I realized that......too late; not your fault...I just misread. I'm still glad you posted this account....and please relay to this couple, of possible, many are very happy that they are safe.


176 posted on 09/04/2005 5:45:57 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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