Posted on 09/02/2005 9:53:33 AM PDT by ContemptofCourt
Just heard through the grapevine that FEMA has appropriated all police and private security personnel in Houston to aid with the influx of refugees. All vacations cancelled..events requiring private security or off-duty police are likewise being cancelled.
This is not verified. Any confirmation?
Not that it matters, but it's 25,000 each in Houston, Dallas and San Antonio. Special medical needs persons will go to Ft. Worth. Of course this does not count the folks that evacuated themselves and now have nowhere to return to. Their numbers are about 4 or 5 times the numbers of folks who needed to be evacuated now, because for whatever reason they didn't before the storm hit.
From what I hear, Texas is doing more than any other state to help. Thank you.
What NO police? Once the donut shops were evacuated they were long gone. Say what you want about NYC, the cops and firefighters there would be swarming all over NO taking care of business.
How long is this going to last. They can't keep it up forever. These people need to be disbursed across the country. Give them a choice of where to go.
Steve Harrigan (FoxNews) is reporting a convoy of armed NG and police vehicles going into central N. O. to counter the domestic terrorists who have laid seige to parts of the city.
Geraldo confirming similar at his location.
11,000 to Reliant
http://www.kxan.com/Global/story.asp?S=3799359&nav=0s3de4bp
I heard the Governor say that the people would be free to come and go. HMMMMM
We're connected somehow to N.O., not that we wouldn't do it for anyone else, but they're the next city over, we're both very low, but for the grace of God it could be us, we love the food, the culture, the music, people move back and forth a lot, both deep down very blue collar... We're sister cities in the most meaningful sense of the word.
The private security firms had to get there liscence to operate from some government.
The N.O. Police remind me of a conquered army. Change out of your uniform and throw it in the street so nobody knows you were a cop, then hide in the mob. Keep your sidearm in case you need it and get the hell out. Every man for himself.
This wholesale use of the term refugees has changed the character of the situation to such a degree as to fully politicize it; these people are not refugees, they are simply evacuees whose homes have been rendered temporarily unusable.
We lose the battle as soon as the terms of engagement are coopted and yet all we do is wail.
Where the hell is Rudy??
They aren't in prison, we can't really stop them... I suppose we could but... don't worry, be happy it twill be allright.
Same as they have over any private business or property. Since they were originally chartered to deal with the aftereffects of a nuclear war, they have pretty broad powers in their enabling legislation. Whether those powers are Constitutional has never been tested AFAIK, maybe they will be now.
Many, even most homes are not merely temporarily unusable, but completely gone. New Orleans may be have to be bulldozed over before it is rebuilt, if it is rebuilt. Some coastal town in Miss. were wiped off the map. Many of these people may end having to build a new life elsewhere, so refugee fits.
the Immigration and Nationality Act
The Immigration and Nationality Act defines "refugee" in Sec. 101(a)(42) as:
(A) any person who is outside any country of such person's nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, is outside any country in which such person last habitually resided, and who is unable or unwilling to return to, and is unable or unwilling to avail himself or herself of the protection of, that country because of persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion, or
(B) in such circumstances as the President after appropriate consultation (as defined in section 207(e) of this Act) may specify, any person who is within the country of such person's nationality or, in the case of a person having no nationality, within the country in which such person is habitually residing, and who is persecuted or who has a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. The term "refugee" does not include any person who ordered, incited, assisted, or otherwise participated in the persecution of any person on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion. For purposes of determinations under this Act, a person who has been forced to abort a pregnancy or to undergo involuntary sterilization, or who has been persecuted for failure or refusal to undergo such a procedure or for other resistance to a coercive population control program, shall be deemed to have been persecuted on account of political opinion, and a person who has a well founded fear that he or she will be forced to undergo such a procedure or subject to persecution for such failure, refusal, or resistance shall be deemed to have a well founded fear of persecution on account of political opinion
breaking REALLY NOT news ;) ROFLMAO (so true!)
Interesting. Yet, FEMA asked my county(Loudoun, VA) for police help, and after they got 22 officers and multiple vehicles filled with aid, FEMA told them NOT to go. Apparently, if you are helping FEMA out, you need a special FEMA number for insurance? pay? etc... FEMA refuses to give Loudoun County this number so they could go help.
In fact, they waited for two days, and finally started driving down yesterday, and along the way FEMA called and said for them to turn around and go home.
In a situation where on-site help is desperately needed, FEMA is telling the media one thing, but actuallt doing something completely different.
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