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Terrorist Known Before 9/11, More Say
NY Times ^ | September 2, 2005 | THOM SHANKER

Posted on 09/01/2005 10:22:30 PM PDT by neverdem

WASHINGTON, Sept. 1 - A Defense Department inquiry has found three more people who recall seeing an intelligence briefing slide that identified the ringleader of the Sept. 11 attacks a year before the hijackings and terrorist strikes, Pentagon and military officials said Thursday.

But the officials said investigators who reviewed thousands of documents and electronic files from a secret counterterrorism planning unit had not found the chart itself, or any evidence the chart ever existed.

The officials acknowledged that documents and electronic files created by the unit, known as Able Danger, were destroyed under standing orders that limit the military's use of intelligence gathered about people in the United States.

At a Pentagon briefing on Thursday, four intelligence or military officials said investigators had interviewed 80 people who served directly with Able Danger, a team organized to write a counterterrorism campaign plan, or were closely associated with it.

Of those 80, 5 in all now say they saw the chart, including Capt. Scott J. Phillpott of the Navy and Lt. Col. Anthony Shaffer of the Army, whose recent comments first brought attention to Able Danger.

At the briefing, the officials said that four of the five recalled seeing a picture of Mohamed Atta, the member of Al Qaeda who planned and carried out the attacks, while one said the chart contained only Mr. Atta's name.

The officials stressed that their inquiry was continuing, and that they still could not definitively prove or disprove whether the unit identified Mr. Atta - and, perhaps, other members of the hijacking team - before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

The witnesses "are credible people," said Pat Downs, a senior policy analyst for the under secretary of defense for intelligence. But investigators "can't find the document," Ms. Downs said.

Another official who described the inquiry...

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 911; abledanger; atta; clintonfailures; clintonlegacy; clintonscandals; coverup; defensedepartment; hillaryknew; mohammedatta; sept11; terrorism; whitewash
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1 posted on 09/01/2005 10:22:36 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
...or any evidence the chart ever existed.

Ummm.. The eyewitness reports are evidence..

2 posted on 09/01/2005 10:24:01 PM PDT by AntiGuv ("Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." Philip K. Dick)
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To: neverdem
"The officials acknowledged that documents and electronic files created by the unit, known as Able Danger, were destroyed under standing orders that limit the military's use of intelligence..."

Ah yes...a subtle news dump on a Friday printing during a Disaster cycle...

3 posted on 09/01/2005 10:24:36 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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Yeah, people never lie.*

* Note: I am not saying these guys are lying. There has to be more evidence than word of mouth.


4 posted on 09/01/2005 10:26:19 PM PDT by oolatec
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To: AntiGuv; popdonnelly
The eyewitness reports are evidence..

It's a Rovian cabal. Give them polygraphs and find out how many voted for Bush!!

5 posted on 09/01/2005 10:29:45 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
...or any evidence the chart ever existed.

The Clintonistas have been busy little bees.

6 posted on 09/01/2005 10:31:27 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham (Beware the Socialist-Islamist alignment.)
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To: neverdem
secret counterterrorism planning unit had not found the chart itself

Check with Sandy Berger.

7 posted on 09/01/2005 10:32:40 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: neverdem

No body, no crime.


8 posted on 09/01/2005 10:34:10 PM PDT by elfman2 (2 tacos short of a combination plate)
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To: oolatec

there is more. weldon is lobbing back better than mcenroe . they know it is a long match. think of how far the issue has come in a short period of time. weldon gave a good shot to open the round . he got their attention . he is now counterpunching , their shots have no power , they are tentitive because they think there may be something to this. getting the old guard to admit the charges are possible is a big step.


9 posted on 09/01/2005 10:53:17 PM PDT by fantom
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To: neverdem

"Terrorist Known Before 9/11, More Say "
Like Bill Clinton administration before? Yes, I thought so.


10 posted on 09/01/2005 11:08:08 PM PDT by guitarnick40 (When a liberal's in doubt, all they do is scream and shout...)
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To: Southack; wardaddy; Joe Brower; Cannoneer No. 4; Criminal Number 18F; Dan from Michigan; Eaker; ...
Ah yes...a subtle news dump on a Friday printing during a Disaster cycle...

FWIW, it's Friday AM, and the story is listed in the Washington Section of its running homepage, and when you link to the story you find that it has been referenced as "Article in Washington (3 of 4)".

4 in 9/11 Plot Are Called Tied To Qaeda in '00

Four in 9/11 Plot Are Called Tied to Qaeda in '00

4 in 9/11 Plot Are Called Tied To Qaeda in '00

Now with story from Thom Shanker, the Times has a fourth reporter on Able Danger, FWIW. From time to time, I’ll ping on noteworthy articles about politics, foreign and military affairs. FReepmail me if you want on or off my list.

11 posted on 09/01/2005 11:33:38 PM PDT by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: neverdem
It's a Rovian cabal. Give them polygraphs and find out how many voted for Bush!!

You mean the investigators, right?

Why are the names, named. . .of the witnesses; but the 'investigators'. . .the 'Committee'. . .the 'Officials' remain, just that. It might be noted that they asked for no help; from those involved who just might know how to locate some of this info. . .

Better that Curt Weldon form his own team of experts; and go on a search. This so painfully bogus.

12 posted on 09/01/2005 11:54:10 PM PDT by cricket (.Just say NO U.N.)
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To: kcvl
"Check with Sandy Berger."

. ..for sure. . .the 'paper trail' from his pants.

13 posted on 09/01/2005 11:56:43 PM PDT by cricket (.Just say NO U.N.)
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To: elfman2
"No body, no crime."

And not a shred of evidence. . .

14 posted on 09/01/2005 11:58:09 PM PDT by cricket (.Just say NO U.N.)
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To: fantom
"getting the old guard to admit the charges are possible is a big step."

They are dragging their feet and the truth.

Probably hoping to take a detour through Lake Ponchetrain. . .

15 posted on 09/02/2005 12:03:26 AM PDT by cricket (.Just say NO U.N.)
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To: cricket

Ya mean Sandy Burglar right? lol


16 posted on 09/02/2005 12:14:43 AM PDT by guitarnick40 (When a liberal's in doubt, all they do is scream and shout...)
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To: neverdem

I could be knocked over with a hummingbird feather. Really. I could.


17 posted on 09/02/2005 12:15:57 AM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (Bless those in need this day)
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To: guitarnick40
"Ya mean Sandy Burglar right? lol"

Oops; indeed I did; cannot believe I misspelled his name. . .'for sure' ;^)

18 posted on 09/02/2005 12:21:24 AM PDT by cricket (.Just say NO U.N.)
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To: neverdem

I have the answer, and I'm going to pos.......WHEW! There's a pile of rotten fish somewhere...*kaff, kaff*.

As I was saying *kaff* it was the.....aaargh


19 posted on 09/02/2005 12:50:05 AM PDT by Randy Papadoo ( "The left just doesn't know how to say "Yes"!"......Ann Coulter)
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To: AntiGuv

bttt


20 posted on 09/02/2005 1:32:28 AM PDT by malia (President Bush - a man of strength!! clinton - a paper tiger!!!!!!!)
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