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Katrina Live Thread, Part XIII
Various ^ | 1 September 2005 | Various

Posted on 09/01/2005 3:46:26 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: Howlin

I doubt that my SIL would have known, if he hadn't requested extra runs for a holiday weekend. I don't think anyone wants to tell the truth.


2,561 posted on 09/01/2005 11:42:11 PM PDT by Krodg
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To: doug from upland

I agree with you. The President did all he could do way ahead of time, including the (AFAIK) unprecedented action of declaring a disaster area before it actually happened. Even then, the mayor and governor didn't take that slap in the face hint. He had to actually talk to them.

Did you hear the Louisiana Sec. of Homeland Security on FNC earlier? I don't remember the show, maybe O'Reilly's. Anyway, the question was posed if he thought they were behind the curve in being prepared for this disaster. With a nonchalant attitude, to paraphrase he answered, "Yes I guess we were. But we're catching up."

I still cannot fathom the actions, or rather, inactions on the part of LA government. It boggles the mind.


2,562 posted on 09/01/2005 11:42:11 PM PDT by kenth (north Georgia mountains - prayers for all in the path of Katrina)
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To: supercat
Someone posted a poster from the San Francisco Earthquake with a proclamation by the mayor: LOOTERS WILL BE KILLED.

I saw that. Since the looters (when do we start calling them insurgents?) are now shooting at the rescuers, such a policy would be appropriate for New Orleans.

2,563 posted on 09/01/2005 11:42:27 PM PDT by TChad
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To: Thud

I used to deal with a guy in Japan....he said there was no FEMA type response to Kobe....he kept saying how generous America was....comparing it to the Northridge quake one year earlier.


2,564 posted on 09/01/2005 11:42:43 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Thanks for the help. Much appreciated.


2,565 posted on 09/01/2005 11:43:03 PM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Howlin

"Does anybody besides me want to smack the ever living CRAP out of Joe Scarborough?"

LOL! You crack me up!! I mean, it's hard sometimes to catch your subtle humor and nuance, but maybe someday you'll be brave enough to really speak your mind. :-)


2,566 posted on 09/01/2005 11:43:19 PM PDT by AggieMom x 3
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To: nunya bidness

Who is that guy?


2,567 posted on 09/01/2005 11:43:25 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: nunya bidness

I think those cops were probably fed up with the total lack of
management and direction.


2,568 posted on 09/01/2005 11:43:30 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: nunya bidness

BINGO it is lack of LEADERSHIP from the State House to the mayor to the Chief of Police etc.... You plan , practice and drill before the disaster... This whole thing is a failure of State and Local government... The governor was overwhelmed and is apparently adrift.


2,569 posted on 09/01/2005 11:43:51 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: Deo volente

Hope it works for you!


2,570 posted on 09/01/2005 11:44:12 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Lord, we need a Logan miracle for Simcha7 and Cowboy. Please.)
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To: BurbankKarl

I hope they didn't have to leave *their* dog behind.


2,571 posted on 09/01/2005 11:44:18 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: BurbankKarl

I am personally embarrassed by all of this.

This crap we tell about how "great" the American people are has totally been shown to be a lie. True, it's not a lie everywhere, but it is certainly a lie in Louisiana.

In Mississippi there was a story about a man, standing in front of his totally wiped out house. He'd come there from Vietnam. He said "I came here thirty years ago with nothing, and now I have nothing again. But I will rebuild it."

But in New Orleans, we see masses of able-bodied people sitting around waiting to be spoon-fed.

A whole city full of able-bodied people, and yet precious little activity with participation in their own survival.

A city full of people that might have helped to pass supplies to those that need them. A whole city full of people that might have worked together to fill sandbags, or help the infirm, or get the children out.

But no... what we have is a city full of people that are fully unable to think, or act. What we have is a place where medical units cannot go in without military escort.

We should'nt HAVE TO "secure" the ground in order to provide help. But we do. In New Orleans.

Maybe we should just back off from support. Drop leaflets with a phone number on them, saying... "Look... call us when you want some help. But until then... have a nice day."




2,572 posted on 09/01/2005 11:44:38 PM PDT by Ramius (Blades for war fighters: http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net)
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To: Uncle Ike

turned on the TV to CNN, and the first thing I heard was, Quote, "The Bush Administration cut funding...." Unquote.


I wonder if you switched during the Olbermann show. Isn't he the DU sweetheart? It got really good when he had Sharpton on, fresh from his holding hands with Sheehan. By "good" I mean bilious.


2,573 posted on 09/01/2005 11:45:55 PM PDT by kenth (north Georgia mountains - prayers for all in the path of Katrina)
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To: AggieMom x 3

I'm working on it. :-)


2,574 posted on 09/01/2005 11:46:07 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: TChad

San Francisco was also a double disaster...Earthquake, followed by fire. Lots of victims died trapped under buildings.

2,575 posted on 09/01/2005 11:46:23 PM PDT by BurbankKarl (u)
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To: Ramius

Spot on!


2,576 posted on 09/01/2005 11:46:51 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: MarMema

Reports I heard said that the police had virtually no orders from headquarters and that the things they did, they banded together and did on their own.


2,577 posted on 09/01/2005 11:47:00 PM PDT by Howlin (Have you check in on this thread: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread)
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To: lawdog
You plan , practice, and drill before the disaster... This whole thing is a failure of State and Local government...

That's been my almost endless refrain. A lot of horrible suffering did not have to happen. Disaster training is so common that I thought all cities did it.

Establishing ommunication and triage are essential, yet I have seen none in New Orleans.

My husband said tonight it's like they are hoping to kill as many more as they can before it is over.

2,579 posted on 09/01/2005 11:47:07 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: kenth; doug from upland

I just fired off a note to Paula Zahn to ask her if she is implying it is now the responsibility of FEMA to drive all people out of town when an evacuation is called.


2,580 posted on 09/01/2005 11:47:19 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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