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Thousands Feared Drowned in New Orleans
ap ^ | 8/31/05 | By ADAM NOSSITER, Associated Press Writer

Posted on 08/31/2005 8:34:26 PM PDT by Flavius

EW ORLEANS - With thousands feared drowned in what could be America's deadliest natural disaster in a century, New Orleans' leaders all but surrendered the streets to floodwaters Wednesday and began turning out the lights on the ruined city — perhaps for months. ADVERTISEMENT

Looting spiraled so out of control that Mayor Ray Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts and focus on the brazen packs of thieves who have turned increasingly hostile.

Nagin also called for an all-out evacuation of the city's remaining residents. Asked how many people died, he said: "Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands."

With most of the city under water, Army engineers struggled to plug New Orleans' breached levees with giant sandbags and concrete barriers, and authorities drew up plans to clear out the tens of thousands of remaining people and practically abandon the below-sea-level city.

Nagin said there will be a "total evacuation of the city. We have to. The city will not be functional for two or three months." And he said people would not be allowed back into their homes for at least a month or two.

If the mayor's death-toll estimate holds true, it would make Katrina the worst natural disaster in the United States since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire, which have blamed for anywhere from about 500 to 6,000 deaths. Katrina would also be the nation's deadliest hurricane since 1900, when a storm in Galveston, Texas, killed between 6,000 and 12,000 people.

An exodus from the Superdome began Wednesday as the first of nearly 25,000 refugees left the miserable surroundings of the football stadium to be transported in a caravan of buses to the Astrodome in Houston, 350 miles away. The conditions in the Superdome had become horrendous: There was no air conditioning, the toilets were backed up, and the stench was so bad that medical workers wore masks as they walked around.

In Mississippi, bodies are starting to pile up at the morgue in hard-hit Harrison County. Forty corpses have brought to the morgue already, and officials expect the death toll in the county to climb well above 100.

Tempers were beginning to flare. Police said a man fatally shot his sister in the head over a bag of ice in Hattiesburg, Miss.

President Bush flew over New Orleans and parts of Mississippi's hurricane-blasted coastline in Air Force One. Turning to his aides, he said: "It's totally wiped out. ... It's devastating, it's got to be doubly devastating on the ground."

"We're dealing with one of the worst national disasters in our nation's history," Bush said later in a televised address from the White House, which most victims could not see because power remains out to 1 million Gulf Coast residents.

The federal government dispatched helicopters, warships and elite SEAL water-rescue teams in one of the biggest relief operations in U.S. history, aimed at plucking residents from rooftops in the last of the "golden 72 hours" rescuers say is crucial to saving lives.

As fires burned from broken natural-gas mains, the skies above the city buzzed with National Guard and Coast Guard helicopters frantically dropping baskets to roofs where victims had been stranded since the storm roared in with a 145-mph fury Monday. Atop one apartment building, two children held up a giant sign scrawled with the words: "Help us!"

Looters used garbage cans and inflatable mattresses to float away with food, blue jeans, tennis shoes, TV sets — even guns. Outside one pharmacy, thieves commandeered a forklift and used it to push up the storm shutters and break through the glass. The driver of a nursing-home bus surrendered the vehicle to thugs after being threatened.

Police said their first priority remained saving lives, and mostly just stood by and watched the looting. But Nagin later said the looting had gotten so bad that stopping the thieves became the top priority for the police department.

"They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas — hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now," Nagin said in a statement to The Associated Press.

Hundreds of people wandered up and down shattered Interstate 10 — the only major freeway leading into New Orleans from the east — pushing shopping carts, laundry racks, anything they could find to carry their belongings.

On some of the few roads that were still open, people waved at passing cars with empty water jugs, begging for relief. Hundreds of people appeared to have spent the night on a crippled highway.

Nagin, whose pre-hurricane evacuation order got most of his city of a half a million out of harm's way, estimated 50,000 to 100,000 people remained, and said that 14,000 to 15,000 a day could be evacuated in ensuing convoys.

"We have to," Nagin said. "It's not living conditions."

He also expressed concern about people staying in the water: "People walking in that water with those dead bodies, it can get in your pores, you don't have to drink it."

In addition to the Astrodome solution, the Federal Emergency Management Agency was considering putting people on cruise ships, in tent cities, mobile home parks, and so-called floating dormitories.

The floodwaters streamed into the city's streets from two levee breaks near Lake Pontchartrain a day after New Orleans thought it had escaped catastrophic damage from Katrina. The floodwaters covered 80 percent of the city, in some areas 20 feet deep, in a reddish-brown soup of sewage, gasoline and garbage.

Around midday, officials with the state and the Army Corps of Engineers said the water levels between the city and Lake Pontchartrain had equalized, and water had stopped spilling into New Orleans, and even appeared to be falling. But the danger was far from over.

The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 15,000-pound bags of sand and stone as early as Wednesday night into the 500-foot gap in the failed floodwall.

But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.

In Washington, the Bush administration decided to release crude oil from the federal petroleum reserves after Katrina knocked out 95 percent of the Gulf of Mexico's output. But because of the disruptions and damage to the refineries, gasoline prices surged above $3 a gallon in many parts of the country.

The death toll has reached at least 110 in Mississippi alone. But the full magnitude of the disaster had been unclear for days — in part, because some areas in both coastal Mississippi and New Orleans are still unreachable, but also because authorities' first priority has been the living.

In Mississippi, for example, ambulances roamed through the passable streets of devastated places such as Biloxi, Gulfport, Waveland and Bay St. Louis, in some cases speeding past corpses in hopes of saving people trapped in flooded and crumbled buildings.

State officials said Nagin's guess of thousands dead seemed plausible.

Lt. Kevin Cowan of the state Office of Emergency Preparedness said it is too soon to say with any accuracy how many died. But he noted that since thousands of people had been rescued from roofs and attics, it could be assumed that there were lots of others who were not saved.

"You have a limited number of resources, for an unknown number of evacuees. It's already been several days. You've had reports there are casualties. You all can do the math," he said.

On the flooded streets of New Orleans, dozens of fishermen from up to 200 miles away floated in on caravans of boats to pull residents out.

One of those rescued was 40-year-old Kevin Montgomery, who spent three days shuttling between the attic of a one-story home and a canopy he built on the roof.

Every once in a while, Mongtomery would see a body float by. But he cannot swim and had to fight the urge to wade in and tie them down.

"It was terrible," he said. "All I could do was pass them by and hope that God takes care of the rest of that."


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: deathtoll; katrina; neworleans; no
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To: Flavius

The media will try not to show anyone photos of dead bodies, which would evoke pity. They will, however, readily report on looting, violence, and anything else that evokes contempt for Americans.
It's in the rule book.


21 posted on 08/31/2005 9:00:10 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: ladyinred

Oliver Stone will soon work on the movie and, of course, it will be Bush's fault.


22 posted on 08/31/2005 9:00:27 PM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming -- INDICTING HILLARY)
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To: brwnsuga
We are all basically disgusted that in the middle of a horrible disaster some folks feel compelled to steal Nikes and TV sets (like they can watch TV with no electricity) Go figure.

I can accept the taking of food and water. You couldn't purchase this stuff if you wanted to and people shouldn't starve while food rots in abandoned grocery stores.

But plasma screen TVs? The effort it took to steel a TV could have been put to more productive uses.

Heck, even the TVs would probably have been (and will soon be) destroyed anyways.

It is the rampant, violent, thug behavior that is sickening me. The rapes, shootings, armed robberies, home invasions, etc. that are happening. I certainly don't meant to paint all black people with this brush as I know they are suffering horribly in N.O. and I am sure there are many undocumented acts of selflessness among them. But I feel that what I am seeing on TV (along with millions of other Americans) is the end result of a long-standing glorification of "gangsta" criminal behavior that seems to be prevalent within the African American community.

And I'm getting tired of it.

23 posted on 08/31/2005 9:04:49 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Flavius
I would hate to think that the vaunted racial proletariat that liberals insist are "oppressed" are, in reality, a band of lawless animals. After all, brainy liberals always insist that the cops are to blame, you know, for their retrograde racist attitudes when it comes to issues involving the sainted "African-American community."

No need to worry. Liberals are experiencing fits of madness trying to square the African-as-social-construct with the prosiac Africans of New Orleans

24 posted on 08/31/2005 9:05:04 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Flavius
The tsunami aftermath saw its share of sneak thief looting as well as some looting of bodies, but quite limited and harshly answered by the police. This is confrontational and extremely violent from what I see on television and read. Those in charge (?) need to get a handle on it immediately. I don't see so much of the self-help and help your neighbor as I saw in the Tsunami. Very sad reflection on urban culture.
25 posted on 08/31/2005 9:08:57 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: Flavius
what is so special about these guys to start taking out their own rescue people and their own citizens

Ask the liberals, Jessie Jackson and Sharpton and all of the other so-called "Black Leaders", who appeal to all of the unG-dly and enable and encourage their behavior.

The liberals and their welfare society are responsible for the cycle of ignorance, resentment, bitterness, poverty and sense of entitlement.

The G-d hating, America-hating liberals are the ones who fostered this crap. All for their own selfish gain.

26 posted on 08/31/2005 9:12:46 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: ladyinred
Just goes to prove what Mom always said, "Oh, sure, everybody thinks playing with hurricanes is nothing but fun and games, until somebody loses a major city."
27 posted on 08/31/2005 9:14:56 PM PDT by raygun
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To: Flavius
I'm sorry, but I just don't believe that "thousands" of dead will be found in New Orleans, at least not from the flooding.

If the death toll exceeds 500, I'll be shocked.

Making statements like that is the typical extremist views that most black leaders (i.e., Jackson, Sharpton, et al) employ to get more money.

28 posted on 08/31/2005 9:15:31 PM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: Drew68

You are right,facts are facts.


29 posted on 08/31/2005 9:16:59 PM PDT by patriciamary
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To: Drew68

Ditto to your #9.


30 posted on 08/31/2005 9:17:10 PM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: Flavius

This paints a very bleak picture. I hope the thugs, hoodlums, and looters can be brought under control soon.

God help the women and children, and the elderly, who are having such a difficult time escaping the Nightmare City that was once New Orleans.


31 posted on 08/31/2005 9:21:06 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: JimSEA
Those in charge (?) need to get a handle on it immediately.

That's just it...with Blanko and Nagin, it's like having no one in charge.

32 posted on 08/31/2005 9:22:06 PM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: MCCRon58

"Then, once the animals are done looting and killing, go in and kill those who survived, for they would be the truly dangerous ones."

Such a tempting thought. It's wrong, but very tempting.
To see these animals doing this is beyond words. They have probably all lived off public assistance since the sperm met the egg.
They will go back to their drug dealing and stealing when this is all over.
All the good ones left NO. All the bad ones stayed, along with some innocent ones.


33 posted on 08/31/2005 9:22:34 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (The Democrat party is the official party of the Morlocks.)
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To: HereInTheHeartland
They have probably all lived off public assistance since the sperm met the egg.

It's in their DNA.

34 posted on 08/31/2005 9:23:45 PM PDT by A2J (Oh, I wish I was in Dixie...)
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To: SlowBoat407

Thank the ACLU


35 posted on 08/31/2005 9:31:08 PM PDT by joesnuffy (Save the whales. Redeem them for valuable prizes.)
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To: Texas_Conservative2
I've never seen such poor planning and leadership in my life. the Mayor and Governor should be strung up. This is just inexcusable, unbelievable incompetence.
36 posted on 08/31/2005 9:33:15 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: HereInTheHeartland
"They have probably all lived off public assistance since the sperm met the egg."

Why, sure. Feminist social engineers insist that men are superfluous and violent, you see. And the end result of this grand belief in mommy going it alone? Strangely, superfluous and violent men.

37 posted on 08/31/2005 9:35:11 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: brwnsuga
I was discussing this with a few friends of mine, who all happen to be African American, like myself.

It just goes to show the effect pop culture leaders have.

Our media has sabotaged African American culture by holding up immoral reprobates like Jackson and Sharpton as heroes and examples, as well as every thug rap artist who comes down the pipe, while continually offering racism as the excuse for every shortcoming.

A hypothetical equivalent would be presenting David Duke and Eminem as serious leaders worthy of emulation.

One thing I have learned: As soon as you start accepting things you cannot change as excuses for your situation you will never escape it, and every action you take will perpetuate that situation.

Jackson, Sharpton, and the rest of the democrats have been targeting these people with that garbage for a long time.

But as always, this news coverage is only part of the picture. I work and go to church with African Americans who would't urinate on Jesse Jackson if he was on fire. They have nothing to need an excuse for and they are the best of people. In spite of the media's best efforts to destroy them, they excel.

One Thomas Sowell or Walter Williams more than makes up for a whole city full of looters.

38 posted on 08/31/2005 9:36:05 PM PDT by hopespringseternal (</i>)
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To: Drew68

I've been trying very hard to restrain myself from saying much worse than that! Freakin' animals are better behaved.


39 posted on 08/31/2005 9:41:31 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: A2J

What specifically is in thier DNA?


40 posted on 08/31/2005 9:45:18 PM PDT by Walkingfeather
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