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20 oil rigs missing in Gulf of Mexico: US Coast Guard
Yahoo! ^ | 8/31/2005 | AFP

Posted on 08/31/2005 6:53:23 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves

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To: There You Go Again

Ditto. The Feds should immediately authorize drilling in ANWR, offshore anywhere in CA and FL, and the construction of the Cape Wind Project (to spite those Limousine Liberals in Nantucket).


41 posted on 08/31/2005 8:25:26 PM PDT by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: EricT.
Here is an example of the most current attempt to build a new refinery since the last one in 1976. Regardless of jobs, the NIMBY and so called "grass roots" groups will always oppose it:

Refinery gets permit
Group To Take Refinery Permit Battle to EPA as State issues permit

BY JONATHAN ATHENS STAFF WRITER The YUMA SUN April 15, 2005
A much-debated oil refinery in Yuma County on Thursday got an air quality permit that state environmental regulators say is the toughest one ever issued.

A grass-roots citizens group that opposes the proposed refinery vowed to take their fight to the Environmental Protection Agency, asking that agency to take over responsibility for enforcement and compliance. "If constructed, this will be the cleanest refinery ever built" said Arizona Department of Environmental Quality Director Steve Owen in a news release. ADEQ issued the permit.

The "if" depends on whether Arizona Clean Fuels, the Phoenix-based company that wants to build the refinery, can raise the $2.5 billion it will cost and begin construction within a limited time frame. The company has raised between $20 million and $30 million from private investors and spent that money over the last five years as it went through the permitting process.

http://www.refineryreform.org/spotlight_yuma_az.html
42 posted on 08/31/2005 8:47:29 PM PDT by bobsunshine
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To: Wacka

Thanks for the clarification. I had only caught a bit of a report on this rig and some video. I had thought we were talking about the same item.


43 posted on 08/31/2005 11:35:51 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: mathluv

Thanks. Someone else mentioned that. I appreciate the clarification.


44 posted on 08/31/2005 11:42:57 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (US socialist liberalism would be dead without the help of politicians who claim to be conservative.)
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To: SierraWasp

I knew there was another one!


45 posted on 09/01/2005 2:50:03 AM PDT by mathluv (Mercy shown to an evil man is cruelty to the innocent.)
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To: Dog Gone
"My company owns seven of them. I'm not sure we'll look that hard for them. They're located a couple hundred feet from their previous location, except they're now artificial reefs."

thank you for the interjection of a little 'silver lining'. I've heard so much gloom and doom it makes me nuts (or at least nuttier than usual). Yes this was a tragedy, but there will be some positives that result. Your artificial reefs are one. They will be a boon to sportfishing eventually. There will also be a boom for those people in the construction business rebuilding all the lost homes. Another boost for the steel industry manufacturing the materials needed to replace the lost oil rigs and rebar for all the bridge repairs. It makes me nuts that the MSM focuses entirely on the negative and the loss as if their assumption is that everyone is going to stand around and wallow in self-pity. Yeah, gas pricies will go up for awhile, but the market will bring them back. Yeah, people are homeless right now, but most of them won't choose to stay that way. Yeah, it is definately a tough time for those folks down there, but life will go on, and my wager is that the positive after affects will outweigh the negative in the long run.

"Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.--Theodore Roosevelt"

46 posted on 09/01/2005 3:32:43 AM PDT by chief_bigfoot ("isn't THAT amazing?" - Ron Popiel)
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To: DeFault User; mathluv

I know all about NIMBY. I grew up near the Rancho Seco nuclear power plant. Seemed like it was protested every other day till they finally closed it.


47 posted on 09/01/2005 4:36:08 AM PDT by EricT. (Join the Soylent Green Party...We recycle dead environmentalists.)
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To: CFC__VRWC

Correction - on what used to be Dauphin Island.


48 posted on 09/01/2005 4:38:36 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)
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To: chief_bigfoot
Another boost for the steel industry manufacturing the materials needed to replace the lost oil rigs and rebar for all the bridge repairs.

If the ChiComs don't get to the scrap first. Their appetite is so voracious, it has already driven the price of scrap high. Now, they will use our "trade dollars" to buy more, and sell it back to us, as "end use" products.

I doubt if the domestic steel mills can compete. Between the Bushes, and Clintoon, they have done little to help Americans. And seem to do much to help our enemies defeat us. Porous borders, lax, or non-existent security at gum't installations, and a laissez faire attitude toward protecting our AMERICAN economic interests...

49 posted on 09/01/2005 4:46:24 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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To: EricT.
Which is why in my post #17, I suggested using coastline military facilities that are going to be closed by the BRACC process. Most of those communities would be more than happy to have the investments and jobs created by the new refineries, that would fill the void left by a closed military installation.

One of the problems with closing down military bases, especially old ones, is the cost of the clean-up of old pollutants left over from the 30's, 40's, 50's, etc. A federal refinery would maintain the the property in the governments hands and allow the refinery to be built WITHOUT the extra EPA crap that "virgin" real estate would require.

And yes, Wyoming is lovely, but the refineries would need to be located slightly closer to the off loading facilities of the crude.
50 posted on 09/01/2005 7:24:13 AM PDT by Mr. Jazzy (Bumper sticker "Martyrs or Marines: Who do YOU think will get the virgins?")
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To: CommandoFrank

I think you may be right.


51 posted on 09/01/2005 5:06:17 PM PDT by JediForce (DON'T FIRE UNTIL YOU SEE THE WHITES OF THE CURTAINS THEY ARE WEARING ON THEIR HEADS !)
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