Katrina Live Thread XII

wrong thread - wrong storm...lol

4,361 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:12 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)

You are in my prayers.

4,362 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:14 AM PDT by MarMema

What a friggin mess. I'm getting irratated at a lot of officeholders right about now, both DEMOCRAT AND REPUBLICAN!

4,363 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:41 AM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (USA should be studied by StateDept. as a "Foreign Country". Then will see OUR insurgents and chaos.)

As I posted earlier, there is one difference. In an earthquake, everyone is still there. In NO the only people left are poor, infirmed or criminal. Not a great mix. When the "Big One" hits LA, even in poor neighborhoods there will be church leaders, business leaders, home owners, etc. I don't think they'll let things get too out of control. Those people left NO Saturday and Sunday.

4,364 posted on 09/01/2005 11:01:57 AM PDT by oldleft

4,365 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:20 AM PDT by conservativebabe (God Bless Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida)

Hey pollyg, I sat at the Kangaroo at Rice and Old Canton for four hours yesterday. The tanker that was supposed to come got diverted back to the terminal after filling the tanks at the Kangaroo in Gluckstadt.

A guy broke line in Gluckstadt last night and pulled a gun on the people that challenged him. Toby's boys busted his head I understand.

I'm at Mosby's in Canton right now. Truck is on empty. I'm going to siphon 10 gallons out of my Mom and Dad's cars to get home then I'm going to sit for the weekend. I've got to work at Baptist on Monday and may just stay in my office a few nights.

Do you have power? If not a fellow Freeper is always welcome to cool off and take a hot shower. I have freezer space if you need it also.

TAW

4,366 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:21 AM PDT by Malichi (!)

Thanks, the feed I was using cut him off.

4,367 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:23 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

To: PBRSTREETGANG

I can't seem to find one for Katrina. I'd have sworn we did one.

4,368 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:37 AM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (an enemy of islam -- Joe Boucher; Leapfrog; Dr.Zoidberg; Lazamataz; ...)

Surely you aren't implying that those people are capable of just showing up in NO right now. Or that they could get there. Or that there would be food, water, shelter, etc. for them if they were there.

The comparison is ridiculous.

4,369 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:39 AM PDT by lugsoul ("She talks and she laughs." - Tom DeLay)

You were listening to her speak too. It was very sad, wasn't it?

4,370 posted on 09/01/2005 11:02:50 AM PDT by MarMema

C-span is running it...

4,371 posted on 09/01/2005 11:03:05 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

the Dod spokeman and this general are beig very precise and careful to put the tag on Blanco. excellent, these guys both understand the proper role.

4,372 posted on 09/01/2005 11:03:37 AM PDT by oceanview

To: conservativebabe

The poor coroner in that town. It will be years before we know the full extent of dead and who died of a gunshot and who didn't.

And given what I've read here and other places about the state of LA politics, I'm not sure we'll ever really hear the truth.

4,373 posted on 09/01/2005 11:03:39 AM PDT by Peach (South Carolina is praying for our Gulf coast citizens.)

Do you HONESTLY think this governor is going to accept responsibility for having the Gaurd shooting blacks?

Absolutely. While the vast majority of looters are black. The Mayor is black. He declared martial law. The police chief is black. Most of the cops are black. Heck about half of the NG if not more are black?

Like I said earlier. A lot of people saw the footage of the lone black police officer trying to hold off a horde of looters with a shotgun. Now if he had blasted a couple of em, whose going to cry racism?

4,374 posted on 09/01/2005 11:04:05 AM PDT by Smogger

To: conservativebabe

The main blame lies of course, on Mother Nature, but also on the imcompetency of the LA government.....

The LA officials waited far to long to get the Feds involved....they were in way over their heads from the first hours of this crisis and refused to publicly admit it....

The NG should have been mobilized and ready before Katrina hit....36-48 hours were lost due to this incompetence....

The Feds are playing catch-up right now.....a lot of people will have died because of this blunder when all is said and done...IMHO

4,375 posted on 09/01/2005 11:04:08 AM PDT by PigRigger (Send donations to http://www.AdoptAPlatoon.org)

The link for checking in post Katrina is at the top of this thread under "related FR threads." It is called: FYI: Hurricane Katrina Freeper SIGN IN Thread

4,376 posted on 09/01/2005 11:04:13 AM PDT by NautiNurse ("I'd rather see someone go to work for a Republican campaign than sit on their butt."--Howard Dean)

Army working to help stop New Orleans flooding
August 31, 2005

VICKSBURG, Miss. (Army News Service, Aug. 31, 2005) — Although the category-four winds and rains have dissipated, major flooding continues to be a problem in the New Orleans area and the Army Corps of Engineers is working to help.

One source of flooding was the Aug. 30 overtopping and subsequent breaching of the London Avenue Canal floodwall at 6100 Pratt Drive, New Orleans, Corps officials said. They said Corps personnel are continuing to evaluate information on the breaching and are developing plans to seal it off.

One element of this plan is to use up-to-3,000-pound sand bags on the 17th Street Canal. Army National Guard Chinook helicopters are expected to begin assisting in the operation soon, officials said.

Access to breach sites continues to hamper efforts to close them, officials said. Barges and cranes cannot be moved through the Industrial Canal due to motor vessels and other large debris blocking the canal. Vessels must go around and through the Gulf Inner-Coastal Waterway or the Mississippi River Gulf Outlet.

The Mississippi River is closed to vessel traffic from Southwest Pass to Natchez, MS. The Army National Guard, U.S. Army, U.S. Coast Guard, other federal and state authorities, and private contractors are all working alongside the Corps to bring in necessary materials, supplies and equipment to begin making inroads to the damage.

The Corps is working with two major contractors to determine the scope of unwatering services available to inundated areas.

The Corps of Engineers Motor Vessel “Kirby Responder” is surveying the Gulf Inner-Coastal Waterway from Pascagoula, Miss., toward News Orleans with U.S. Coast Guard members on board to help determine what can be navigated.

They will survey Baptiste Collette Aug. 31, officials said, weather permitting.

The survey vessel LaFourche is currently surveying the condition of the navigation channel from Baton Rouge to Southwest Pass.

Corps of Engineers motor vessels are also delivering barges with cranes and excavating equipment and critical recovery materials.

The Port Allen Lock reopened Aug. 30 and remains on auxiliary power, officials said. Algiers Lock and Harvey Lock are operating.

The Industrial Canal Lock is operating on an emergency generator and officials said the lock is expected to be operational in the near future. The canal is blocked with vessels, loose barges and boats. All other Corps of Engineers waterway facilities are open for normal operations.

The Port Allen Lock has been designated as a staging area for the Federal Emergency Management Agency. In support of FEMA, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers is contracting for:

• emergency clearance of debris to enable reconnaissance and movement of emergency personnel and equipment.

• temporary construction of emergency access routes, including damaged streets, roads, bridges, ports, waterways, airfields, and any other facilities necessary for passage of rescue personnel

• emergency restoration of critical public services and facilities including supplying adequate amounts of drinking water, temporary restoration of water supply systems and providing water for fire fighting

• emergency demolition or stabilization of damaged structures and facilities as designated by state or local governments

• immediate emergency supplies including ice and water

• emergency power generation at critical sites (hospitals, shelters, etc.)

• temporary roofing and temporary housing

• technical assistance and damage assessment, including structural inspection of structures

• unwatering to assist the state of Louisiana by performing and or contracting to remove water from New Orleans and the greater metropolitan area.

While the Corps is coordinating public works and engineering activities under FEMA, it will also provide direct assistance under Flood Control and Coastal Emergency authorities, officials said.

Aerial reconnaissance of the region has been conducted. Corps ground reconnaissance teams have observed that most houses have major damage to their roofs and officials said they expect roofing to be a huge mission. Communications also continues to be a major issue, they said.

Corps teams forward in the area have been unable to contact all parish emergency officials and determine pump station conditions. They are currently contacting Levee Boards to determine local capabilities for assistance in filling breeches, evaluating the extent of damage, etc., and are coordinating with the Louisiana Emergency Operations Center, officials reported.

The Corps has also maintained close communication with the U.S. Geological Service regarding water stage data in Louisiana. Gage data for Lake Pontchartrain indicates that the lake is slowly draining, officials said. Based on the present rate of fall observed for the last eight hours, they said the lake level should return to normal level in about 36 hours.

As recovery efforts continue to gather momentum, numerous U.S. Army Corps of Engineers personnel from across the nation are arriving in the region to help tackle the mission ahead.

Other military efforts in the area incude:

• Defense Coordinating Officers and Defense Coordinating Elements, known as DCEs, are on site in Clanton, Ala., Baton Rouge, La., and Jackson, Miss., to liaison between U.S. Northern Command, FEMA and the Department of Defense.

• Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., Naval Air Station Meridian, Miss., Barksdale Air Force Base, La., Alexandria, La., and Ft. Polk, La., have been designated as federal operational staging areas to expedite the movement of relief supplies and emergency personnel to affected areas.

• U.S. Transportation Command is flying 8 swift water rescue teams from Calfornia to Lafayette, La. These California-based teams provide about 14 personnel with vehicles and small rigid hulled boats who are highly trained and capable of rescuing stranded citizens from flooded areas.

• The hospital ship, USNS Comfort, is departing Baltimore to bring its medical assistance to the Gulf region. The Comfort should reach the area in seven days, officials said.

• Three Army helicopters from III Corps at Fort Hood, Texas, are in Baton Rouge and two more in Mississippi to assist with search and rescue and damage assessment.

• USNORTHCOM established Joint Task Force Katrina to be the military’s on-scene commander in support of FEMA. Lt. Gen. Russel Honoré, commander of First Army at Fort Gillem, Ga., is the JTF commander. JTF-Katrina will be based out of Camp Shelby, Miss.

• JTF-Civil Support is providing a joint planning augmentation cell.

• U.S. Northern Command’s Joint Operations Center is on 24-hour duty in Colorado Springs, Colo., to facilitate any additional requests for assistance that may come from FEMA representatives.

(Editor’s note: Information taken from Army Corps of Engineers and U.S. Northern Command news releases.)

4,377 posted on 09/01/2005 11:04:29 AM PDT by EBH (Never give-up, Never give-in, and Never Forget)

Saw this one but it didn't appear to have too much activity.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1473994/posts

4,378 posted on 09/01/2005 11:04:31 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG

welcome.

more:

The military is not in charge for the rest of duration....
the NG will be there with what secretary chernoff requests
the NG will be in charge
if we can fulfill requests of some of those we will be there for as long as they need it

now coast guard officer on

4,379 posted on 09/01/2005 11:04:40 AM PDT by bwteim (Begin With The End In Mind)

To: Ovation_girl

Thanks for posting about Noah's wish. I also am supporting the Houston SPCA shelter

4,380 posted on 09/01/2005 11:04:54 AM PDT by MarMema

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