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The Realities of Tribal Sovereignty, Indian Gaming and Their Money Making Machine
© 2005 Hawaii Reporter, Inc ^ | 8/29/05 | By Bradley Beecher

Posted on 08/31/2005 10:01:52 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines

Hiding beneath the cloak of sovereign immunity federally recognized Indian tribes can ignore virtually any state law, many federal laws and violate the Constitutional rights of non-Indians with seeming impunity.

While I am not a legal expert on tribal sovereignty, based upon my own first-hand experience as a Commander of a State Police unit monitoring tribal gaming on a Connecticut reservation, I do not believe this is the outcome or state of affairs that either Congress or the courts expected or anticipated.

I have analyzed numerous state-tribe gaming compacts that allow tribes in most instances to create and apply their own set of laws. Based upon my experience and research here are some examples of situations permitted to exist at Indian gaming facilities:

This situation is not going to change on its own. The gaming tribes have spread their influence to the corridors of both the state and federal government. As a result, government officials at all levels have done little or nothing to cause effective change. America is supposed to be the land of equal opportunity. Our governmental officials are supposed to represent the will of the American people, not those of purported "sovereign Nations."

Citizens must learn how tribal sovereignty destroys the principles our country was founded upon. When people grasp the fact that politicians are actually making and enforcing laws that favor one ethnic group over others, they often say "How can that happen here?" It is happening.

"Reservation shopping" could land a major casino operation in anyone’s backyard. This means local businesses being shut down, influx’s of foreign worker at low wages, inflation of real estate values and heavy strains being placed on local social agencies and school systems, not to mention the increase in crime and political corruption. Citizens, who are well educated, informed and organized, sending a clear, unified message to officials at both the state and federal level is the best weapon against this national trend.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California; US: Hawaii; US: New York
KEYWORDS: americanindians; casinos; gambling; gaming; indian; reservations; sovereignty; tribalgaming; unemployedtrooper

1 posted on 08/31/2005 10:02:10 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Citizens must learn how tribal sovereignty destroys the principles our country was founded upon.
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Exactly. I have been against this "tribal carte blance" ever since it was implemented as the political pandering that it is. And now Hawaiians are trying to get the same carte blanche?? Hell, why not? Illegal Mexicans get it -- they can do what they want, get free "everything" from the Washington goverment, all AT YOUR EXPENSE.

I still contend that Washington is really out of control.


2 posted on 08/31/2005 10:17:13 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: EagleUSA

Bump.


3 posted on 08/31/2005 10:18:48 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I'm not sure I have a problem with tribal sovereignty. They are the remnants of nations...we regognized them as nations, treated with them as nations and in general screwed their eyes out, I just don't have a lot sympathy with the stance in the article.


4 posted on 08/31/2005 10:19:39 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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The problem is that the "rank and file" Indian doesn't see dime one from these enterprises. Instead, the money goes to the tribal leaders, who end up as multi-millionaires who keep the rest of their people in squalor while raping the communities around the casino.

Do a google search on Ray Halbriter and Oneida County sometime for a good example.


5 posted on 08/31/2005 10:29:22 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: EagleUSA

Southeastern OK is booming, thanks in large part to the Indian tribes' casinos, travel centers, and other businesses including manufacturing chocolate, of all things. I haven't heard anyone here making any economic arguments against them, and very few against them for any reason. Non tribal businesses are benifitting. They are providing social services for tribal members far beyond what the state has provided, including a really nice home for foster children. No doubt, the system is being abused as systems always are, but not all of the effects in all cases are negative.


6 posted on 08/31/2005 10:45:47 AM PDT by metalcor
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Well, the Cherokee do it differently. In addition to having their tribal coffers filled to overflowing, each and every member gets a yearly check. Even the kiddies, held in trust.
Last year's check was something like 14k.

I guess it varies from tribe to tribe. Thats the only one I am very familiar with. I would agree that if the rank and file got no benefits, it would indeed s*ck.


7 posted on 08/31/2005 10:46:21 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Adder

From what I've seen, the Western States do it right. The problem is the Eastern and coastal states where land claims are basically invented out of whole cloth, in order for some flunky to buy a lot of populated land cheap and put a casino on it.


8 posted on 08/31/2005 10:48:20 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines
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To: metalcor

They are providing social services for tribal members far beyond what the state has provided, including a really nice home for foster children. No doubt, the system is being abused as systems always are, but not all of the effects in all cases are negative.
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That is good news. My beef is with our government and the fear that they will start pandering to more GROUPS as opposed to the fact that we are all one people, under one government and equal under the law -- which we know is really not the case, but that is what our founding documents say is the intent of America.


9 posted on 08/31/2005 10:49:19 AM PDT by EagleUSA
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WE need to shut down the whole Indian gambling casino scam in toto. Alas, too late, they have enough money to buy off politicians on this deal ... but I dont think Geronimo was fighting for this way bcak when.


10 posted on 08/31/2005 10:51:20 AM PDT by WOSG (http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com/)
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Yes, we have a tribe locally that has been in the local news over what amounts to a family feud. They have steadfastly refused to enroll tribal members based on the fact that they did not own land on the rancheria site when it was reconstituted in the 1980's. That has kept the millions of dollars that flow into the tribes casino in the hands of a about a few dozen adult members. There is very little recourse for these people, who are blood family, some of whom continue to live in poverty (although that brings in my personal views on personal responsibility).

If the gaming tribe in your area behaves in such an insulting manner to the larger community, or non-enrolled members, simply vote with your wallets. They only have this amount of power because of the millions of easy money that flows into their casinos. So stop gambling there! Don't give them your money! If your a contractor, don't bid on their projects, no matter who lucrative a deal it may seem on the surface! It's our greed responding to the lure of easily gotten money that provides them with their power. Cut off the flow of cash until they learn they must live within a larger society.
11 posted on 08/31/2005 10:55:56 AM PDT by gracie1 (Visualize whirled peas!)
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To: EagleUSA

hey maybe i can start my own tribe in NH. Pretty cool i can declare diplomatic immunity or something


12 posted on 08/31/2005 10:58:35 AM PDT by DM1
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Hey, we were told that Christian morals and laws were horrible to live under and we have walked from that to this mishmash of socially engineered, you get your sin and I get mine.

Now we find out that it really sucks, but there is no going back. Kinda like a wife deciding to try prostutition for a little extra cash. Now gambling is spread across the land, along with drugs and prostitution. What was once Child sexual abuse is now done to our children in schools as they are forced to learn adult sexual practices in grade school.

Why does a 7 year old need to know how to apply a condom if he or she was not taught why to use it in the first place? This is simply not a thing a child should be exposed to until puberty.

But hey, you can find a Lost Wages in every city now, along with an AIDS clinic, a methodone clinic and a womans abuse shelter. Every miss the good old days when a problem in school was chewing gum, not rape and guns? Isn't freedom grand? Freedom from the law is lawlessness.

Go figure.


13 posted on 08/31/2005 11:43:09 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: EagleUSA

They aren't getting my money, unless you count some small part of my taxes spent on harrassing Indian casino owners.

I hate gambling but if stupid people want to throw their money away I couldn't care less. More power to the Indians. They've been screwed for two hundred years. About time they got a piece of the pie.


14 posted on 08/31/2005 11:51:26 AM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over TWO YEARS now)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ...
Hiding beneath the cloak of sovereign immunity federally recognized Indian tribes can ignore virtually any state law, many federal laws and violate the Constitutional rights of non-Indians with seeming impunity.

This is the deal which gave the American settlers the land. If we do not like it, we should go back to Europe (or other places) and return the land to Indian tribes.

15 posted on 08/31/2005 1:54:57 PM PDT by A. Pole (" There is no other god but Free Market, and Adam Smith is his prophet ! Bazaar Akbar! ")
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While I am not a legal expert on tribal sovereignty, based upon my own first-hand experience as a Commander of a State Police unit monitoring tribal gaming on a Connecticut reservation,

I'll say he's not. I performed contract work at the largest casino in Connecticut (Foxwoods), and it was not hard for the state to get their mitts on a whole lot of things.

Originally, the casino was allowed everything that other non-profits in Connecticut were allowed. Since churches and Elks clubs etc. could run a Monte Carlo night, so could the "tribe." However, the biggest money maker of all, slots, were not present because Connecticut state law did not allow them.

Now, the evil governor of Connecticut, Lowell FRINO Weicker (Former Republican in Name Only), makes a deal with the tribe. They can have the slots, and they will have exclusivity (along with Mohegan Sun), but they have to subject themselves to all sorts of CT rules and regs.

The tribe bought in. There was certainly no lack of state police presence when I was in Foxwoods late 1997.

It might be the last public place in Connecticut where one can openly smoke a cigarette!
16 posted on 08/31/2005 2:33:18 PM PDT by sittnick (There's no salvation in politics.)
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When Isreal returned to their land after the captivity in Egypt God commanded them to eradicate the tribes that had moved into their land. Basically, once you defeat the enemy totally destroy them.

More and more I see the wisdom in this. If we had done that from the start of this country we'd have no stupid NCAA ethnic cleansing going on, we'd have no tribes claiming the remains of people who died before the tribe cam into existence (Kennewic(?) man) and we'd have no illegal alien problem. We would have much more land and resources to the south of us and the island of cuba would be a paradise resort complex by now.

17 posted on 09/01/2005 5:51:15 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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n 2003 I was struck by a drunk driver who was employed by the Avi Casino Enterprises Inc. She was over-served at a party for another Avi employee. She became so intoxicated the bartender wanted to cut her off, but was told by a manager to keep feeding her booze. She decided to leave that party for another at approximately 0400 she was seen stumbling to the exit. When she encountered Security She was placed onto a shuttle to the Employee Parking. (instead of forcing her to take a cab, or sleep it off in a room upstairs as per casino policy).

She made it less that a mile where she swerved into my lane hitting me on my motorcycle. My left leg was traumatically amputated near the hip. I have suffered from very bad back, stump and phantom pains since 2003. It took over two years for me to recover to the point I am today. I am unable to work, because I cannot sit for more that 4 hours.

All I’m asking is an avenue to justice for others like me. Lets stop 21st Century multi million dollar corporations from hiding behind 1800s law.

Some tribal entities have made it a policy to use blanket tribal immunity as a license to steal. Whether denying slot machine winnings, or hiding great wrongs behind 150 year old law.


18 posted on 02/01/2016 7:26:16 AM PST by GrumpyolJarhead
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