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Katrina Live Thread, Part XI
Various ^ | 30 August 2005 | Various

Posted on 08/30/2005 1:34:04 PM PDT by NautiNurse

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To: maquiladora

bad news, indeed


1,301 posted on 08/30/2005 5:01:46 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Lizarde

So right, it is like a slow motion emerging hell. I cannot even respond to the new bad news. I have given up on NO but then I don't know if that is right or not. Maybe an heroic effort to plug those levees. It just seems too horrible.


1,302 posted on 08/30/2005 5:01:55 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: PhiKapMom
They have to clear airspace when the President comes into an area and he will not be there until it is safe to clear out the skies.

Ah, a detail I hadn't considered...thanks.

But, truth be told: Every time President Bush takes charge, I exhale and know the best solution is at hand.

I'm looking forward to his presence and leadership through this national crisis.

1,303 posted on 08/30/2005 5:01:56 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: Dog

This is starting to turn into "Escape from L.A." In fact, I predict we will be seeing the made-for-TV-movie on the small screen this fall. Who will play Gov. Blanco?


1,304 posted on 08/30/2005 5:02:01 PM PDT by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: sinkspur

Saw somewhere that W is considering borrowing fuel from our allies and from EU.


1,305 posted on 08/30/2005 5:02:07 PM PDT by reformedliberal (Bless our troops and pray for our nation.)
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To: deport

Ping to post 1279.


1,306 posted on 08/30/2005 5:02:37 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Wonder Warthog



Madison and Marshal County Red Cross to Gulfport FD

family trapped 2414 Middlecaff in Gulfport.


1,307 posted on 08/30/2005 5:02:39 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: jeffers

"True, with limitations. If you have spare money to invest, companies that make pink fiberglass and sheetrock look good to me.

If they sit under water too long, the studs and sill plates will get beyond salvage...that means a new frame, with only the foundation worth saving."

That has been my experience. The best situation is a quick flood with waters disappearing quickly. Some of the framing always has to be replaced as it simply cannot be recovered.
We had a good number people sandbag their homes, not to keep them from flooding, but to eliminate the current and it seemed to work pretty well.

For those of you who think these are small things indeed, you tend to get real practical, real fast when the waters begin lapping at your home.



1,308 posted on 08/30/2005 5:02:43 PM PDT by TexanToTheCore (Rock the pews, Baby)
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Ignore the idiot Paula Zhan who just said the failure to fix the breach will add an additional 12-15' of floodwaters to New Orleans. Nonsense, the truth is that it is predicted to now flood to about 3' above sea level, submerging areas that sit 9-12' below sea level.


1,309 posted on 08/30/2005 5:02:52 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: NonValueAdded
Why not??? A levee breach was a foreseeable event from any big storm that happened to come close. Proper contingency planning dictates that these things ARE kept laying around ready to use. No excuse for the city and state not being ready for such a problem

And this is what's been nagging on me through the whole thing. The officials (Governor, Mayor) act as though they had no idea that something like this might happen. There were living in "la la land" or in a total state of denial not to have plans in place for a levee break, even if it was a Cat 1 storm.

1,310 posted on 08/30/2005 5:02:56 PM PDT by dawn53
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To: jeffers

Almost lost? I don't know anymore.


1,311 posted on 08/30/2005 5:03:04 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: reformedliberal

Japan has offered some of their reserve.


1,312 posted on 08/30/2005 5:03:07 PM PDT by NonValueAdded ("Freedom of speech makes it much easier to spot the idiots." [Jay Lessig, 2/7/2005])
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To: NautiNurse

You are tireless, NN. Thanks for keeping these threads moving and updated. A blessing on your head.


1,313 posted on 08/30/2005 5:03:15 PM PDT by shezza (God Bless Our Troops)
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To: jeffers
So You guess that if the water can be removed within a month, that the majority houses will be salvageable? But the mold will be aweful!
1,314 posted on 08/30/2005 5:03:16 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: LenS
"To be honest, they might be better off closing down New Orleans. Louisiana loses land the size of Manhattan Island every year to erosion. I'm sure that Katrina accelerated that. But even without Katrina, the odds are that the Gulf will slowly reclaim most of the tip of the "boot" of LA over the next few decades. Which means that even rebuilt, New Orleans will eventually end up as an island in the Gulf."

The problem of erosion loss is easily fixable IF the will can be generated to do so. All that is necessary is to cut an east-west channel across the Mississippi Isthmus and stop the flow of silt from dropping over the edge of the "continental abyss" as it does now.

1,315 posted on 08/30/2005 5:04:00 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Admin Moderator

"To: queenkathy
So do the Mods actually sit someplace and have to read all these posts?

We all sit in our own homes/offices on our own schedule and read threads that interest us. We rely on the abuse reports and a few other tools we have to alert us to problems"

"...a few other tools..."

The FR Mods have cracked and subverted Echelon.

We are doomed.


1,316 posted on 08/30/2005 5:04:17 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: RobbyS

Jeff Goldblatt on Fox just said that water is still rising in the French Quarter and it is now knee deep there.


1,317 posted on 08/30/2005 5:04:24 PM PDT by Txsleuth (Arlington Texas --- Next home of the Dallas Cowboys...going more broke every second.)
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To: spanalot

FYI, guess what, sandbagging the lake failed.

I was afraid that would happen.

You can't expect some bags to hold back a lake.


1,318 posted on 08/30/2005 5:04:28 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: Tuxedo

That just upsets me so much.


1,319 posted on 08/30/2005 5:04:32 PM PDT by RDTF
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To: Wonder Warthog
Yes, and no it won't compromise them.

Praise God for that at least.

1,320 posted on 08/30/2005 5:04:43 PM PDT by Types_with_Fist (I'm on FReep so often that when I read an article at another site I scroll down for the comments.)
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