Katrina Live Thread, Part X

Various ^ | 30 August 2005

[BlueNgold]

To say there was no plan is an over-statement.

The argument as to the government's responsibility to provide transporation is not absolute.

[eastforker]

Does not matter what they steal, they can wright off NO if they cant get water out in over 2 weeks and power back on in 2 months. There will be nothing to come back to. Get everyone out and set a match to it and never build there again. It is a total loss.

[Riverman94610]

If truth be told,Sharpton,Waters,Jesse and the whole gang of demagogues could vanish from the face of the earth and blacks in a desolated place like New Orleans would catch hell.
The school system is a pathetic joke.Family structure is on VERY shaky ground.The whole "party and have a good time"ethos of the city is particularly destructive for blacks.Everyone wants to get their thrill on and to hell with intellectual and spiritual uplift.
And,flame me if you will,but many whites down there just plain DON'T LIKE blacks.I could tell you many stories of "nigger hating"among the whites I encountered down there from 1970-1977.Blacks have a GOOD reason,stemming from their own experience not to trust many whites.They don't need the good Rev'rd Jesse to tell them that.

[Diddle E. Squat]

No other city is stuck in bowls several feet below sea level. NOLA was a completely different situation, known to anyone paying attention for decades. The mayor and gov should not only have ordered mandatory evacs on Saturday morning, but mandatory immediate shutdown of nonessential businesses, to emphasize the seriousness of the situation.

[bwteim]

Don't encourage him/her/...

[CajunConservative]

We don't know the details yet, considering that those 250,000 people were from several countries and not just one city and surrounding parishes, and a few counties from MS and AL. I'm not even counting the folks affected from the storm inland. We haven't heard how they have fared either.

[penelopesire]

Last paragragh:

"Last week, Chavez offered discount gasoline to poor Americans suffering from high oil prices and on Sunday offered free eye surgery for Americans without access to health care."

Eye surgery? LOL....wierd.

[Coldwater Creek]

We are in Covington. Do not notice a lot of dirt, but then who could see it for all of the leaves, limbs and other debris that blew in last night.

[AppyPappy]

They didn't steal guns to protect their families, they took them for sinister reasons

Actually, guns are like instant cash on the street. They are the easiest to sell.

[SCDockman]

Down in Westwego (southwest NO) a couple of years ago, the shipyard workers told me the nutria (think of a rat crossed with a rabbit) were digging burrows into the earther levees, weakening them. This may have contributed.

[jpsb]

'That level of probability was not reached until after 4:00 PM Sunday."

4pm Sunday did not leave much time, maybe 12 14 hours? I liked dirt-boy idea about 2,000 school buses. I remember looking a probability maps after Kattrina hit Fla and recall Fla pan handle the predicted hit. I don't think the blame game is fair, NHC does it's best and it does an excellent job, but until the storm is in strong steering currents there predictions can be way off. I do think N.O. could have had a better plan since N.O. is so at risk, hopefully cities like Galveston and Mobil will see what awaits them if they too fail to plan for a worst case evacuation.

[technochick99]

What about the guns & ammo they stole from a sporting goods store? Cleaned them out I tell you. "Thou shalt not steal" (NO EXCEPTTIONS placed before or after that rule.)

Where are the thread police when you need them? Could you stop CARPING on this issue?

And perhaps the Spelling Police should be called in as well.

[Peach]

President Bush attempting to contact Mayor of New Orleans via shortwave...

Has anyone even seen the mayor or heard from him today?

[NittanyLion]

To gain an additional 24 hours you would be saying that they should have started the evacuation on Friday morning instead of Saturday morning.

You've got your timeline mixed up - mandatory evacuation began Sunday morning.

[SE Mom]

As always cg- a breath of fresh air and SANITY:)

I agree the theft is disgraceful- and I also know human beings are flawed and a time like this will show us both sides of our nature...

God bless all in the Gulf region.

[Alberta's Child]

Part of the problem for many of those who didn't leave is the government fostered reliance on the government . . .

That's exactly what I meant when I asked what people in New Orleans did before things like the Red Cross, FEMA, etc. even existed.

[AppyPappy]

I bet they have jobs before housing.

[Conservababe]

Load any rail car capable of carrying people, and just drag them out of town. Of all the modes of transportation available, trains can carry by far the most people in the fewest number of trips.

I know for a fact that this used to be done in the sixties. My mother was a public health nurse who commanded and organized refugee centers inland during hurricanes. It worked quite well.

[Steve_Seattle]

"As much as the class warriors like to claim it is the case, over and over again I find that wealthy people actually tend to care less about material things than poor people."

Well, as Hugh Hefner once said, "The best thing about having money is not having to worry about money." Wealthy people probably don't seem greedy because they already have money to spare. If you're poor or living from check to check, you might SEEM greedy simply because you have to actually worry about money, claw and scratch for it a little bit more, and have the perceived vulgarity to be preoccupied with it.

[bwteim]

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