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80% of New orleans is now under water..still rising
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Posted on 08/30/2005 6:02:47 AM PDT by janetjanet998

20 feet high in places..2 huge levee breaks


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: neworleans; nicelink
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To: janetjanet998
And in Gulfport, MS FNC reporter Steve Harrigan has reported that Cell phones are of no use. People can't get in touch with one another to let each other know if they are dead or alive.

For the dead, this has always been a problem...

61 posted on 08/30/2005 7:07:56 AM PDT by FDNYRHEROES (Time for a new tag line...)
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To: chris1
Talk about giving FR a bad name! Geez you are cruel.

Not cruel. Realistic. I see no reason for my tax money to subsidize their poor choices. You'll note that in my original post, I was referring specifically to those who lose property who didn't bother to protect themselves. I don't see why I should rebuild some guy's house who obviously didn't care enough to obtain insurance for it.

Non-economic losses are a different thing entirely. Those people are going to be going through hell. They'll need our prayers and assistance, and I have no doubt they'll get it.

62 posted on 08/30/2005 7:08:43 AM PDT by zeugma (Muslims are varelse...)
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To: leadpenny

Wow, are you like the "Super Forum Police" or what? Even doing investigative work... lol


63 posted on 08/30/2005 7:09:33 AM PDT by rattrap
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To: FDNYRHEROES
For the dead, this has always been a problem...

That is so bad! LOL

64 posted on 08/30/2005 7:10:16 AM PDT by zeugma (Muslims are varelse...)
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To: The Great RJ

"New Orleans is utterly wiped out and is probably is worse than Hiroshima"

I'd take a CAT 5 hurricane with 100% humidity over an Atomic Bomb pressure wave and 5000 degree temperatures any day.


65 posted on 08/30/2005 7:10:28 AM PDT by Rebelbase ("Run Hillary Run" bumper stickers. Liberals place on rear bumper, conservatives put on front bumper)
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To: newfreep

Wierd. I was thinking that also....


66 posted on 08/30/2005 7:11:26 AM PDT by jbstrick (insert clever tagline here)
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To: leadpenny

Wow, someone sure has a lot of time on their hands...........


67 posted on 08/30/2005 7:14:16 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: From The Deer Stand

A lot of folks around here have no clue. The Mississippi river has changed it's corse drastically since NO was founded. The New MAdrid earthquake re-attanged everything down there in the 1900's (I think). It didn't used to be so "tenuous"....but it may be time to move......


68 posted on 08/30/2005 7:16:09 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: ChefKeith

SAPPS, love it. These people really need to get a life.


69 posted on 08/30/2005 7:17:36 AM PDT by AxelPaulsenJr (Pray Daily For Our Troops and President Bush)
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To: Mr. K

Quote: AND they should also remember to BUILD UNDER SEA-LEVEL AGAIN because no hurricanes ever hit that area.



There are idiots everywhere. We had flooding in the "hollers" where I live i.e people that built their houses 30 feet from a creek-not making this up.

Had huge flooding due to spring rains in March. Guess what? peopple that lost their homes are rebuilding on the same exact spot. Can't help stupid.


70 posted on 08/30/2005 7:20:43 AM PDT by superiorslots (Free Traitors are communist China's modern day "Useful Idiots")
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To: zeugma

Insurance my a$$, Insuarance is the "problem," not the solution. Consider: the 11,000 or so, in the astrodome are there because they didn't even own a car to get out of the city. One estimate: 30% of NO are well below the poverty line. Many of them can't feed themselves, much less buy insurance. Geeeeesh! the lack of compassion for those less fortunate.


71 posted on 08/30/2005 7:23:37 AM PDT by texaslil (and)
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To: Fierce Allegiance
Where do you suggest one build a home to be free from any sort of natural disaster?

It's hard to avoid a "natural disaster" but I'd suggest building on high ground would help lessen at least one risk.

72 posted on 08/30/2005 7:26:33 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: zeugma

In general, I agree with you, but keep in mind, a lot of the people who's home has been wiped out are below the poverty level. If they can't afford to get out of the city, how can they pay for property insurance?

I'm not going all liberal on you, but just pointing out that thanks to the "Great Society" of LBJ, some of these folks are stuck there thanks to RATS who need the Plantation Slaves to keep them viable as a national party.


73 posted on 08/30/2005 7:27:58 AM PDT by ABG(anybody but Gore) (Unleash Karl Rove!!!)
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To: janetjanet998; Constitution Day

I'm reminded of the Man in Black's song, "How High's the Water, Mama?"


74 posted on 08/30/2005 7:30:28 AM PDT by azhenfud (This tag line is currently experiencing technical difficulties. Please stand by.)
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To: CMAC51
The problem with New Orleans is the Army Corp of Engineers and Federal back insurance programs for flood prone areas. The Corp of Engineers has put levees on the Mississippi River all the way down to Venice, Louisiana. All the sediments that at one time flowed out into the Marshes below New Orleans now drops off the edge of the Continental Shelf at the Mouth of the river. The marshes have been eroded of the last 150 years and no longer are a protective barrier to the storm surges. The federally backed insurance programs have allowed people to build in areas that would never be insured and thus not built.

This is a disaster caused by government programs. The solution is to pay off the insurance claims and drop the program of federally backed insurance so people will not build in the areas again. Also the river must be allowed to flood the marshes again. The lack of new sediments in the marsh below New Orleans gets worse every year and the potential for disaster get worse every year.

During the spring floods the river will be 15 feet or more higher than New Orleans. The levees have artificially raised the level of the river, and the level of the sediments in the bottom of the river. If a levee ever breaks during the spring floods it would make this hurricane look like a picnic.

cpdiii (geologist and former resident of New Orleans and I am not an eviromental nut. )
75 posted on 08/30/2005 7:34:39 AM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Rough Neck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast (Oil Field Trash was FUN))
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore)
In general, I agree with you, but keep in mind, a lot of the people who's home has been wiped out are below the poverty level. If they can't afford to get out of the city, how can they pay for property insurance?

I'm not going all liberal on you, but just pointing out that thanks to the "Great Society" of LBJ, some of these folks are stuck there thanks to RATS who need the Plantation Slaves to keep them viable as a national party.

Perhaps if we can do away with welfare, they'll learn how to support themselves again. I'd be willing to start with that.

76 posted on 08/30/2005 7:35:17 AM PDT by zeugma (Muslims are varelse...)
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To: From The Deer Stand

Fire runs uphill faster than down.


77 posted on 08/30/2005 7:37:50 AM PDT by Fierce Allegiance (This ain't your granddaddy's America)
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To: azhenfud
No kidding! This brings back a lot of Hurricane Floyd memories for me.
Speaking of Mr. Cash, I heard "Big River" on the radio yesterday.

Take that woman on down to New Orleans, New Orleans.
Go on, I've had enough; dump my blues down in the gulf.
She loves you, Big River, more than me...

78 posted on 08/30/2005 7:45:50 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: CMAC51
The problem with New Orleans is the Army Corp of Engineers and Federal back insurance programs for flood prone areas. The Corp of Engineers has put levees on the Mississippi River all the way down to Venice, Louisiana. All the sediments that at one time flowed out into the Marshes below New Orleans now drops off the edge of the Continental Shelf at the Mouth of the river. The marshes have been eroded of the last 150 years and no longer are a protective barrier to the storm surges. The federally backed insurance programs have allowed people to build in areas that would never be insured and thus not built.

This is a disaster caused by government programs. The solution is to pay off the insurance claims and drop the program of federally backed insurance so people will not build in the areas again. Also the river must be allowed to flood the marshes again. The lack of new sediments in the marsh below New Orleans gets worse every year and the potential for disaster get worse every year.

During the spring floods the river will be 15 feet or more higher than New Orleans. The levees have artificially raised the level of the river, and the level of the sediments in the bottom of the river. If a levee ever breaks during the spring floods it would make this hurricane look like a picnic.

cpdiii (geologist and former resident of New Orleans and I am not an eviromental nut. )
79 posted on 08/30/2005 7:46:43 AM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Rough Neck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast (Oil Field Trash was FUN))
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To: cpdiii

ooops. Double post, my error.


80 posted on 08/30/2005 7:49:02 AM PDT by cpdiii (Oil Field Trash, Rough Neck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist, Iconoclast (Oil Field Trash was FUN))
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