BREAKING!!! - Weldon says records were ordered destroyed!! (Able Danger)

Dom Giordano Show - 1210AM Radio "Big Talker" - Philadelphia | 29 AUG 05 | Vanity

[Enchante]

Good find! And think about this in relation to what we have seen of the 9/11 O-mission's work, ABLE DANGER, Gorelick's 'wall', failures of intel agencies to work together and share vital information, etc. etc.:

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http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/596

Iraq Connected to 9-11

I think Americans can rightfully feel like they have been lied to or duped by politicians in Washington trying to cover for the Clinton Administration. One thing the Able Danger issue did cause was a re-examination of events that could be gleaned by bloggers from public records and news items. Then the non-MSM journalists jumped in with their resources and access to sources and the story now coming out is of massive amounts of overlooked or surpressed information. Able Danger was one area, and now I am beginning to think its efforts were surpressed, on the surface, because of legal reasons. But this was a cover for the real issue at the time - connections to Iraq.

Why? How did I get to that leap in logic? Well part of this comes from the great work Ed Morrissey did in finding out that Germany arrested two Iraqi operatives trying to recruit people to attack the US, people specifically associated with radical muslim fanatic groups. Groups like Al Qaeda. This is nothing to ignore and is a fact. And my guess is this is the tip of the ice berg compared to what is known in the intelligence community.

Now Stephen Hayes at the Weekly Standard has an article out with further connections the 9-11 Commission ommitted from its report.

AHMED HIKMAT SHAKIR IS A shadowy figure who provided logistical assistance to one, maybe two, of the 9/11 hijackers. Years before, he had received a phone call from the Jersey City, New Jersey, safehouse of the plotters who would soon, in February 1993, park a truck bomb in the basement of the World Trade Center. The safehouse was the apartment of Musab Yasin, brother of Abdul Rahman Yasin, who scorched his own leg while mixing the chemicals for the 1993 bomb.

When Shakir was arrested shortly after the 9/11 attacks, his “pocket litter,” in the parlance of the investigators, included contact information for Musab Yasin and another 1993 plotter, a Kuwaiti native named Ibrahim Suleiman.

These facts alone, linking the 1993 and 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center, would seem to cry out for additional scrutiny, no?

The Yasin brothers and Shakir have more in common. They are all Iraqis. And two of them–Abdul Rahman Yasin and Shakir–went free, despite their participation in attacks on the World Trade Center, at least partly because of efforts made on their behalf by the regime of Saddam Hussein. Both men returned to Iraq–Yasin fled there in 1993 with the active assistance of the Iraqi government. For ten years in Iraq, Abdul Rahman Yasin was provided safe haven and financing by the regime, support that ended only with the coalition intervention in March 2003.

Clinton did not want any confrontations with Iraq in his last year in office. He was too concerned with getting Al Gore elected and his reputation salvaged. He took a gamble and lost. When Able Danger broke I immediately connected Sandy Bergler’s actions with the purloined documents to the Able Danger cover up. Intuition tells me this is probably true - logic says there is nothing in the Able Danger material, as we understand it today, to really harm the Clintonistas and be worth taking this kind of risk. So what if Atta was in the US and not taken seriously. That is the story line now anyway. It just added another example of the same problem we knew about.

But if the notes on the documents clearly showed some indications that Iraq was successfully reaching out and participating with Al Qaeda to attack us - then democrats would know that their chances of winning a presidential election and majorities in congress would be lost for decades.

Is avoiding that kind of fate worth the risk of jail time? Is that the bad decision Bergler felt so anxious over, probably with pressure from Clinton and the rest of his team, that he stole classified material from the national archives and destroyed it?

Yes, that is something that could push some politicians to break the law and risk all. Being relegated to political limbo for years would scare enough people to act irrationally.

Stephen Hayes sees the possible link, as do many of us now.

And why would the 9/11 Commission fail to mention the overlap between the two successful plots to attack the World Trade Center?

The answer is simple: The Iraqi link didn’t fit the commission’s narrative.

Now the question is, what lengths would some people go to supress that link?



Posted by AJStrata on Monday, August 29th, 2005 at 9:21 am.

[malia]

This book is being sold everywhere --- Costco for one.

Who and where do the profits go?

[Republic]

The answer is simple: The Iraqi link didn’t fit the commission’s narrative.

And this breaking forward, would DEMOLISH the leftist crys against this war..it would be....

EXPLOSIVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ThePythonicCow]

I don't see the explosion - sorry. If an Iraqi link is generally understood to exist, this just means that one of the talking points of the Left will be quietly deleted.

The Main Stream Media, bless their evil hearts, still has the primary means of explosions, access to the 90% of the populace that doesn't pay much attention. They are not going to run with such a story above the fold or in the opening headline, day after week.

[Political Junkie Too]

This order to destroy the records occurred prior to 9-11-01. Weldon intimated that it happened during the Clinton Administration.

It would be my guess that many agencies in Clinton's administration were ordered to destroy documents.

Wasn't Carol Browner's office ordered by a court to preserve hard drives, but she ordered them wiped anyway?

Clinton's EPA Chief Destroyed Evidence in Defiance of Court Order

EPA Evidence Tampering Could Warrant Special Prosecutor

-PJ

[Marine_Uncle]

"How about key elite Rats who received illegal money from $addam via the "Oil for Food" Scam? http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1473116/posts?q=1&&page=685#685
No doubt OFFP issues will eventually fall out. There have been hints of this for some time at some conservative sites.

[Lancey Howard]

I remember that! Carol Browner was slimy and corrupt to the core - - a real scumbag.

[cardinal4]

Clinton comeuppance?

[cardinal4]

I am not asking for much, am I?

Nothing more than what the rest of us want..

[Chaguito]

I blush. Great minds, and all that.

[Marine_Uncle]

"46. NSC email, Clarke to Kerrick,"Timeline,"Aug. 19, 1998; Samuel Berger interview (Jan. 14, 2004).We did not find documentation on the after-action review mentioned by Berger. On Vice Chairman Joseph Ralston's mission in Pakistan, see William Cohen interview (Feb. 5, 2004). For speculation on tipping off the Taliban, see, e.g., Richard Clarke interview (Dec. 18, 2003)." FROM THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT NOTES ON CHAPTER FOUR.

Yea, sounds like the burgler was after NA stuff to cover his ass. Problem is as we all had discussed some weeks back, the NA do not hand out originals to anyone, or that at least seemed to be the consensus. He only got copies, so at best he was just trying to review all the stuff that would come back and bite him. As for Clark. Over and over again we see what an ass he was and how deceitful he truly is. CYA seems to have been the only thing these jerks learned well. Guess it goes along with the territory.

[Grampa Dave]

I think the current rats in the Senate and the Clintoons are more concerned about fallout from the Oil for Food Scam than Chinagate.

3,000 Americans died on 9/11/2001. The rats can't afford to be tied into $addam, Oil for Food Scam $s and al Qaeda.

[Grampa Dave]

Please ping me if you see anything with connections from the OFFP to Able Danger and the rats of America. I will do the same for you.

[justshutupandtakeit]

Rumsfeld is not squashing this. Rather he has confirmed its essentials as true.

[Grampa Dave]

"But if the notes on the documents clearly showed some indications that Iraq was successfully reaching out and participating with Al Qaeda to attack us - then democrats would know that their chances of winning a presidential election and majorities in congress would be lost for decades.

"Is avoiding that kind of fate worth the risk of jail time? Is that the bad decision Bergler felt so anxious over, probably with pressure from Clinton and the rest of his team, that he stole classified material from the national archives and destroyed it?

"Yes, that is something that could push some politicians to break the law and risk all. Being relegated to political limbo for years would scare enough people to act irrationally."

Lets throw one more possibility into the above. What if Able Danger showed that elite American Rats got funds from $addam/Iraq that came from the Oil For Food Program?

[GOPJ]

...and probably earn me the Free Republic Golden Tin Foil Hat Award ;)

ROTFLMAO I'll go toe to toe with you over that award!

[justshutupandtakeit]

"For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12

[justshutupandtakeit]

There was no negoitiation as to who the members would be. Had Bush objected the Traitor Media would just have turned his objection into a politically dangerous lie about his motives. It had an opportunity to drive Gorelick out as it did Kissinger but preferred to leave her alone.

However, since WE were watching and on the ball we knew it would not end there and NOW the bat is in our hands and it is time to swing away.

[Marine_Uncle]

"I think the current rats in the Senate and the Clintoons are more concerned about fallout from the Oil for Food Scam than Chinagate. 3,000 Americans died on 9/11/2001. The rats can't afford to be tied into $addam, Oil for Food Scam $s and al Qaeda."

I would only add, that being involved in the OFFP scandal is at best criminal, being tied into known acts of treason regarding giving the Chicoms American nuclear capabilities, arranging for them to get a fully operational Fiber Optic Network etc., much technologies for designing very accurate rockets (gyro systems, etc.), that can be used in offensive ICBM systems etc., would to me be of a graver concern. Of course I fully realize how the rats could think, most of America are mostly dimwits with no knowledge of any concern, so the reactions that they where somehow crooks would sink deeper then the ramifications of providing a horrid enemy with the goods to destroy us in the future. Americans in mass are ignorant, and have no desire to learn what is going on, just be spooned fed shit by the L/MSM, then vote accordingly.

[Marine_Uncle]

"Please ping me if you see anything with connections from the OFFP to Able Danger and the rats of America. I will do the same for you."

I shall attempt to honor your request. Don't bother doing the same however. I frequent these site daily, and wade through the mass of articles. I often read articles prior to folks pinging me, and simply respond out of respect. Sounds like I have to build up some form of local database to store Freeper's names verse type issues folks desire to get pinged on. Writing names/issues on paper could be rather laborious at best.