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President Bush vows to fight border problems (close it ASAP please)
Newsmax.com ^ | 8-29-05

Posted on 08/29/2005 1:49:54 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee

President Bush Vows to Help With Border Problems NewsMax.com Wires Monday, Aug. 29, 2005

EL MIRAGE, Ariz. -- President Bush said Monday he will work with Gov. Janet Napolitano and other border governors to secure the U.S.-Mexico border, where political leaders have been calling for help to deal with waves of illegal immigrants.

Bush told a crowd in this retirement community that he understands the federal government's obligation to enforce the border.

"It's important for the people of this state to understand, your voices are being heard in Washington, D.C.," he said.

Making reference to Sen. Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican who introduced Bush here, the president said, "This senator and this Congress are going to work closely with the administration to make sure we have the resources necessary to do our responsibility, which is to enforce this border. And we'll do so."

Bush made the trip west from his Texas ranch to lend a hand to the administration's effort to sell older Americans on the value of a prescription drug benefit that begins next year for Medicare patients.

Trying to combat confusion about and criticism of the new government drug plan, Bush was making appearances in both Arizona and California Monday to talk it up.

After spending the night in San Diego, he speaks on Tuesday at the Naval Air Station North Island there to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II. His remarks focus on fighting terrorists and the ongoing campaign in Iraq. They recall the Aug. 14, 1945, Japanese surrender that came just days after the United States incinerated the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with atomic bombs.

There has been indications that efforts to build support for the Medicare drug benefit - including a few other appearances around the country by Bush - are paying off. Congress allocated about $300 million to an awareness campaign.

A recent survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation found for the first time that people were as likely to have a favorable view of the plan as to have an unfavorable view. Still, the survey found that more people do not plan to enroll than do.

The prescription drug benefit kicks in Jan. 1. About 43 million beneficiaries will be able to choose from two or more private plans that offer drug coverage.

Enrollees will pay a monthly premium averaging about $32, but the amount will vary among regions, and millions of poor people will pay nothing. Beneficiaries will also have a $250 deductible, meaning they will have to pay that amount for their prescriptions before the drug plan covers expenses. Again, millions of poor beneficiaries will not have any deductible.

After spending more than four weeks operating from his Texas ranch, Bush returns to Washington on Friday. © 2005 The Associated Press


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; anotheramnesty; boygeorge; foolmeonce; immigrantlist; smokeandmirrors; surethinggeorge
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To: inquest
So you are saying that you and most freepers support a guest worker plan.

Your only disagreement with the Bush Plan, Kyl-Cornyn, or McCain-Kennedy is in the details of the guest worker plan?

61 posted on 08/29/2005 2:56:05 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Your only disagreement with the Bush Plan, Kyl-Cornyn, or McCain-Kennedy is in the details of the guest worker plan?

Tancredo's plan is acceptable because it is not amnesty. You can trivialize that as a "detail" all you like, but the reality is that it makes a very substantial difference.

62 posted on 08/29/2005 2:58:55 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: FeeinTennessee

The President's approach to the border problem in the past has been to act as if there were no border. Get Amnesty! Come one, come all and live off the hide of U.S.taxpayers! I'll believe he'll do something constructive about our porous borders when cows fly!


63 posted on 08/29/2005 2:59:06 PM PDT by Mush MouthPhil (socialism is a drug in the nation's system)
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To: gubamyster

Mr President, please ~

Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!

Support our Minutemen Patriots!

Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!


64 posted on 08/29/2005 3:01:39 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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To: bayourod

Which part?


65 posted on 08/29/2005 3:01:47 PM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom
" Bush wants a guest worker program and a border that keeps terrorists out. Anything else, like massive increases in permanent residency and citizenship, dont interest him much. My own theory is that the GOP wants to form a white republican and hispanic co-majority. "
66 posted on 08/29/2005 3:05:22 PM PDT by bayourod (Blue collar foreign laborers create white collar jobs. If they come they will build it.)
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To: mthom
By winning the hispanic vote by increasing the hispanic population radically

Increasing the hispanic vote will increase the vote total for the democrats more. And how will increasing it radically change any hispanic's mind? If this backfires, and those hispanics do what the democrats think they'll do (vote for them) the republicans are finished.

67 posted on 08/29/2005 3:05:38 PM PDT by RoyalsFan (Freepmail me if you want on my Kansas City Royals ping list)
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To: inquest
Since you won't give me a yes/no, let me ask you something else.

All the reform bills previously introduced into Congress have gone into detail as to how illegals in the country would be dealt with.

What does Tancredo plan to do with all the illegals?

68 posted on 08/29/2005 3:06:17 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Marine Inspector

Hopefully someone in the news media will pick up on that little gem of Chertoff's when Bush and co. are pushing their guest worker schemes.


69 posted on 08/29/2005 3:10:38 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Ben Ficklin
The question is what it won't do for them. And I already answered that.
70 posted on 08/29/2005 3:12:23 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: RoyalsFan

I didnt say it was my plan or even a good plan. Thats just the plan, as I see it. They want the hispanic vote and from what Ive seen the way to win the hispanic vote is to allow massive hispanic immigration, with your party label on it, of course.


71 posted on 08/29/2005 3:14:31 PM PDT by mthom
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To: Ben Ficklin

You could read Tancredos bill for yourself. Those details are in there.


72 posted on 08/29/2005 3:16:16 PM PDT by mthom
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To: inquest
Hell man, you don't want to answer the question because you know the answer is bad.

Tancredo knows that you can't get rid of the illegals without creating economic chaos.

73 posted on 08/29/2005 3:17:50 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: bayourod
Thanks for the clarification. I didnt think you of all people would agree with the final sentence. True as I believe it is.
74 posted on 08/29/2005 3:18:58 PM PDT by mthom
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To: FeeinTennessee

If their voices are being heard in Washington, what the hell have you been doing to secure those borders, Mr.President? Oh, wait, let me guess... Nothing!


75 posted on 08/29/2005 3:19:25 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: mthom

I know the answer to my question, I just want you or anyone of the "Tanc-is-God" crowd to answer the question.


76 posted on 08/29/2005 3:21:04 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin

Did you really need to insult me? Did I call you an OBL or traitor or something similar?


77 posted on 08/29/2005 3:22:49 PM PDT by mthom
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To: mthom

Insult? Where?


78 posted on 08/29/2005 3:27:11 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
Hell man, you don't want to answer the question because you know the answer is bad.

No, I didn't answer it because you were making an irrelevant point. You're trying to shift the focus of the discussion from reducing the number of illegals coming through, to deporting the illegals already here. Tancredo's bill makes progress on the first part. It doesn't affect the second either way (because that's not the part of the problem it's designed to deal with), but the important point is, it doesn't make that part worse.

It's up to you to back up your sophomoric claim that he's "OBL". Open Border Lobbyists are hostile to good border security. What is there about Tancredo that puts him in that category?

79 posted on 08/29/2005 3:28:54 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: Ben Ficklin

ugh Ill answer anyway. I havent read it since it was introduced but it goes something like this. A combination of internal enforcement, employer sanctions and employee verification along with the fact that illegals cannot apply causes them to, over time, deport themselves. Like I said earlier, attrition.


80 posted on 08/29/2005 3:30:37 PM PDT by mthom
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