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President Bush vows to fight border problems (close it ASAP please)
Newsmax.com ^ | 8-29-05

Posted on 08/29/2005 1:49:54 PM PDT by FeeinTennessee

President Bush Vows to Help With Border Problems NewsMax.com Wires Monday, Aug. 29, 2005

EL MIRAGE, Ariz. -- President Bush said Monday he will work with Gov. Janet Napolitano and other border governors to secure the U.S.-Mexico border, where political leaders have been calling for help to deal with waves of illegal immigrants.

Bush told a crowd in this retirement community that he understands the federal government's obligation to enforce the border.

"It's important for the people of this state to understand, your voices are being heard in Washington, D.C.," he said.

Making reference to Sen. Jon Kyl, an Arizona Republican who introduced Bush here, the president said, "This senator and this Congress are going to work closely with the administration to make sure we have the resources necessary to do our responsibility, which is to enforce this border. And we'll do so."

Bush made the trip west from his Texas ranch to lend a hand to the administration's effort to sell older Americans on the value of a prescription drug benefit that begins next year for Medicare patients.

Trying to combat confusion about and criticism of the new government drug plan, Bush was making appearances in both Arizona and California Monday to talk it up.

After spending the night in San Diego, he speaks on Tuesday at the Naval Air Station North Island there to commemorate the 60th anniversary of the end of World War II. His remarks focus on fighting terrorists and the ongoing campaign in Iraq. They recall the Aug. 14, 1945, Japanese surrender that came just days after the United States incinerated the cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with atomic bombs.

There has been indications that efforts to build support for the Medicare drug benefit - including a few other appearances around the country by Bush - are paying off. Congress allocated about $300 million to an awareness campaign.

A recent survey from the Kaiser Family Foundation found for the first time that people were as likely to have a favorable view of the plan as to have an unfavorable view. Still, the survey found that more people do not plan to enroll than do.

The prescription drug benefit kicks in Jan. 1. About 43 million beneficiaries will be able to choose from two or more private plans that offer drug coverage.

Enrollees will pay a monthly premium averaging about $32, but the amount will vary among regions, and millions of poor people will pay nothing. Beneficiaries will also have a $250 deductible, meaning they will have to pay that amount for their prescriptions before the drug plan covers expenses. Again, millions of poor beneficiaries will not have any deductible.

After spending more than four weeks operating from his Texas ranch, Bush returns to Washington on Friday. © 2005 The Associated Press


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: aliens; anotheramnesty; boygeorge; foolmeonce; immigrantlist; smokeandmirrors; surethinggeorge
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To: inquest
"this Krikorian character"

He is one of the High Priests in the Church of the Anti-illegals.

An unpopular thread at Free Republic

Several MSM articles published at the time Tanc introduced his bill said that he would be relying on attrition.

101 posted on 08/29/2005 4:02:58 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: GOPiate

George Bush has taken an oath to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Article IV, Section 4 of that Constitution reads, "The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against invasion."


102 posted on 08/29/2005 4:03:32 PM PDT by Borax Queen
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To: inquest
All I'm saying is that Tancredo is being hypocritical for not admitting the obvious.

He does this so that he can maintain "Tancredo-the-myth"

Were he to to say what he intends to do about the illegals, his fund-raising would plummet.

103 posted on 08/29/2005 4:09:33 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Melas
"Gutless would imply that he agreed with your position and simply lacked the courage to act on it. The truth is that he doesn't agree with your position."

I disagree. In fact I will go so far as to say that most Republicans AND DEMOCRATS know that the massive illegal immigration problem is a disaster for this country but in a disgusting display of unanimity refuse to do anything to alienate Hispanic voters. It all comes down to gaining,holding and manipulating power.

The good of the nation be damned.

104 posted on 08/29/2005 4:10:52 PM PDT by Artemis Webb
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To: Artemis Webb

If I had known that President Bush was going to do nothing about illegal immigrants, I would not have voted for him.


105 posted on 08/29/2005 4:29:09 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: Ben Ficklin
What exactly is your point, Krikorian is calling for a sealing of the borders to prevent any new entries and is against guest worker programs that are amnesties in disguise. The idea is to gradually break the addiction of businesses to illegals.

That's the important part of his message that Bush and others in Washington aren't getting. The argument over whether illegals inside the country should be removed tomorrow cold turkey or gradually over a 5 to 10 year period can be reasonably debated. But he doesn't sound like a shill for illegal aliens to me in any way.

As far as the illegals inside the country: Tancredo probably would take the Krikorian approach for political reasons. But it is still far better than the status quo. One thing that makes the idea feasible is that Tancredo's bill would end the anchor baby scam, which gives the executive branch an excuse not to deport many illegals they find.

106 posted on 08/29/2005 4:34:09 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Ben Ficklin
I would also be insulted if I were linked with Tancredo.

ROFLMAO!

107 posted on 08/29/2005 4:35:06 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Cindy Sheehan, Pat Buchanan, John Conyers, and David Duke Are Just Different Sides of the Same Coin.)
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To: Artemis Webb

If I had known that President Bush was going to do nothing about illegal immigrants, I would not have voted for him. Thank God for great Americans known as "The Minutemen". And then President Bush turns around and calls them "Vigilantes". Also, these days when President Bush talks about the WOT on TV and then the next news segment shows hundreds of Mexicans and heaven knows who else running right into America, my husband and I laugh. His advisors should tell him how stupid he sounds.


108 posted on 08/29/2005 4:36:55 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: Ben Ficklin
All I'm saying is that Tancredo is being hypocritical for not admitting the obvious.

There's nothing that he's not admitting. All that's happened is that you've come up with a strawman for what an anti-illegal would think, you note that Tancredo doesn't live up to your strawman, and then you accuse him of hypocrisy.

Were he to to say what he intends to do about the illegals, his fund-raising would plummet.

You can't judge what he intends to do about the illegals on the basis of this one bill. Politics is the art of the possible, and he's trying to do what's possible. And his proposals are head-and-shoulders above anything that anyone else in Washington is proposing.

109 posted on 08/29/2005 4:48:21 PM PDT by inquest (FTAA delenda est)
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To: FeeinTennessee
First his idea to fix the border problem was to reward criminal invaders with jobs, benefits, and eventual citizenship but to call it something other than amnesty. By "fighting border problems", given his record, this time I'm sure he means removing all obstacles to border crossing, creating safe corridors for criminal invaders to come in, and providing food, water, and transportation for those who need help in breaking and entering our country.

Yes, I'm being sardonic. But the bottom line is that I won't believe that Bush is doing something about the border crisis until I actually see it with my own eyes and that it a.)reduces the number of criminal invaders in this country and b.)strongly deters any more illegal border crossings and enhances national security. Until then, it is all talk designed to mislead the public into thinking he gives a damn about our lack of border security.

110 posted on 08/29/2005 4:54:07 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: One Proud Dad
Chertoff is on Hannity now giving the double talk. He said the cost of sending people back to their country is high. Building a fence would require 3 tiers of fencing in urban areas and no fence in the desert.

Cherthoff should be fired. He's on national television giving excuses why the homeland won't be properly secured. Without border security there is NO homeland security. But he sure is playing the good toady and shilling for the president's continued dereliction of his duty to secure each state from invasion.

111 posted on 08/29/2005 4:57:24 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: FeeinTennessee

I suspect that Bush's words are just more rhetoric.

Well, then again, maybe this time he really . . . . naaahhh!


112 posted on 08/29/2005 4:57:48 PM PDT by RightWinger
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To: Ben Ficklin
"If Tancredo's plan doesn't deal with 10-20 million illegals, it is seriously lacking."

It's not supposed to. It is comprehensive program for guest workers. If asked I'm sure Tancredo would say there are already many laws that "deal with 10-20 million illegals". They just need to be enforced.
113 posted on 08/29/2005 4:59:18 PM PDT by moehoward
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To: Reaganwuzthebest

I get now. We are going to adopt immigration reform and wait 10 years to see if it works?


114 posted on 08/29/2005 4:59:56 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Aetius
If the Kyl/Cornyn bill doesn't allow the 'guests' to bring their families, then that is indeed a mark of superiority over the terrible McCain/Kennedy bill, but I have a hard time believing that such a provision will ever survive anything passed by the Senate (House is a different matter). I can just imagine the endless parroting of sob stories that will be used against it.

The Kyl/Cornyn bill is a good step in the right direction, but it doesn't go nearly far enough. If we had true Republican leadership in the White House, the Congress, and the RNC on this issue - and not a bunch of spineless excuse-makers and PC fools - we'd get something even better than Kyl/Cornyn. Instead, we're going to likely end up with something far worse that doesn't come close to addressing the problem but will be easy to claim victory on before the election. I like just about everything else President Bush is doing, but his leadership on the border security and immigration reform issues is so lacking it is frustrating.

115 posted on 08/29/2005 5:00:31 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: RoyalsFan
Listening to Bush's sec. of homeland security call illegal immigrants "economic migrants" on Sean Hannity's radio program today made me sick.

Did Cherthoff really call criminal invaders something like "economic migrants"!? He really should be fired. Is he going to call terrorists something like "freedom fighters" next?

116 posted on 08/29/2005 5:01:53 PM PDT by Spiff (Don't believe everything you think.)
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To: FeeinTennessee

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118 posted on 08/29/2005 5:07:16 PM PDT by Black Tooth
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To: moehoward
A guest worker program is but one part of immigration reform.

Even as a guest worker program it is seriously lacking.

It is widely accepted that the tech worker and nurses guest worker programs work very well, but Tanc wants to change them. Dumb.

119 posted on 08/29/2005 5:09:31 PM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: Ben Ficklin
We are going to adopt immigration reform and wait 10 years to see if it works?

It's not about waiting and you know it. You seal the borders, you do not provide amnesty in any way and you deport the invading illegals. The only question is it all at once or gradually?

Tancredo is calling for a legal temporary guest worker program, that's also part of his reform. No illegals inside the country need apply and there's no more anchor babies.

Compared to the other turkeys in the Senate Tancredo's bill wins hands down.

120 posted on 08/29/2005 5:10:32 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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